Hitler Hated Communism, Socialist, Homosexuals, and Jews

[Bfgrn]

I might just add, there was a entirely different party, called the Socialist Party, in Germany. Nazis were "National Socialists." They were nationalist, country first above all things, you must believe my ideas, or watch what you say, we'll torture you, kind of people. They were Fascists, not Socialists, and Fascism is that endpoint of the spectrum when Republicans keep on moving to the right, as they did during the Bush years.

except the political spectrum is a circle.....i always wonder about people that accuse others of things they temselves are doing all while trying to disarm the population and telling them what is good for them.....

If you are saying that totalitarianism, often mistaken for Marxism, can be reached from both sides, then yea, I agree. I think the conditions under Marxist Totalitarianism are quite different than under Fascism, as displayed in Germany, and Italy. And by the way, tyrannical leaders can manifest under any economic system, even ours. Look at Cheney, Rove, and Rummy.

Cheny, Rove, and Rummy are not Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, or Stalin. Try again.

Do you pea brains really believe an Adolph Hitler saw HIMSELF as evil?

"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality."

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.


"While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives."
Robert Altmeyer

 

[elvis]

Ok, I would like to hear Buttfuckgrn's argument about how Bush, Cheney, and Rummy are equivalent to Hitler and stalin.

 

[Ringel05]

If Hitler had won the war you wouldn't be complaining about a Negro being President.

Did you forget to take your Thorazine again?

 

[elvis]

If you are saying that totalitarianism, often mistaken for Marxism, can be reached from both sides, then yea, I agree. I think the conditions under Marxist Totalitarianism are quite different than under Fascism, as displayed in Germany, and Italy. And by the way, tyrannical leaders can manifest under any economic system, even ours. Look at Cheney, Rove, and Rummy.

Cheny, Rove, and Rummy are not Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, or Stalin. Try again.

Do you pea brains really believe an Adolph Hitler saw HIMSELF as evil?

"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality."

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.


"While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives."
Robert Altmeyer

This post does nothing to prove that Bush, Cheney, and Rummy being on the same level as hitler and Stalin, you daft ****.

 

[Ringel05]

If you are saying that totalitarianism, often mistaken for Marxism, can be reached from both sides, then yea, I agree. I think the conditions under Marxist Totalitarianism are quite different than under Fascism, as displayed in Germany, and Italy. And by the way, tyrannical leaders can manifest under any economic system, even ours. Look at Cheney, Rove, and Rummy.

Cheny, Rove, and Rummy are not Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, or Stalin. Try again.

Do you pea brains really believe an Adolph Hitler saw HIMSELF as evil?

"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality."

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.


"While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives."
Robert Altmeyer

No. Even Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, et. al. saw themselves as "saviors and visionaries" towards their people. But comparing Bush, Obama, etc. to any of them is pure political dogeral.

 

[paperview]

May 8, 1792
Militia Act establishes conscription under federal law

On this day in 1792, Congress passes the second portion of the Militia Act, requiring that “every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years… be enrolled in the militia.”

This Day in History 1792: Militia Act establishes conscription under federal law

Being "Enrolled" in a Militia is hardly having an international Army like we have now. This was a way to have things organized in the event of an invasion.

One's life , liberty and pursuit of happiness sure go to shit if we allow an invasion to successfully occur.

And....once again...Id like to point out that no one seemed to have a problem with just about every mother fucker havin a gun back then.

My point was it was government coercion. The gov. forced you to equip yourself at your own expense and show up for duty for training and to parade on a regular basis.

I don't have a problem with it, as I said, but nonetheless, it was conscription - and it lasted until about the mid 1800's, and in some states even longer.

"The second Act, passed May 8, 1792, provided for the organization of the state militias. It conscripted every "free able-bodied white male citizen" between the ages of 18 and 45 into a local militia company overseen by the state. Militia members were required to arm themselves at their own expense with a musket, bayonet and belt, two spare flints, a cartridge box with 24 bullets, and a knapsack. Men owning rifles were required to provide a powder horn, 1/4 pound of gun powder, 20 rifle balls, a shooting pouch, and a knapsack.[3] Some occupations were exempt, such as congressmen, stagecoach drivers, and ferryboatmen. Otherwise, men were required to report for training twice a year, usually in the Spring and Fall."

 

[AllieBaba]

If you are saying that totalitarianism, often mistaken for Marxism, can be reached from both sides, then yea, I agree. I think the conditions under Marxist Totalitarianism are quite different than under Fascism, as displayed in Germany, and Italy. And by the way, tyrannical leaders can manifest under any economic system, even ours. Look at Cheney, Rove, and Rummy.

Cheny, Rove, and Rummy are not Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, or Stalin. Try again.

Do you pea brains really believe an Adolph Hitler saw HIMSELF as evil?

"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality."

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.


"While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives."
Robert Altmeyer

WTF does that mean? THat he wasn't evil because he didn't see himself as evil?

 

[Yukon]

Hitler was a GREAT man, misunderstood but still a GREAT man.

 

[Bfgrn]

Cheny, Rove, and Rummy are not Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, or Stalin. Try again.

Do you pea brains really believe an Adolph Hitler saw HIMSELF as evil?

"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality."

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.


"While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives."
Robert Altmeyer

WTF does that mean? THat he wasn't evil because he didn't see himself as evil?

It MEANS that just like Hitler, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld believed they were doing "God's" work, when in reality, they were really doing the devil's work, just LIKE Hitler...

 

[RadiomanATL]

"...The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone....


Benito Mussolini


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and when the religious right tries to use the state to effectuate change?

Fascism - by golly , you gottit.

If ANY entity uses the power of government to forcefully effectuate change that the government is being fascistic.

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Words means things and stuff.

You don't get to change the definitions just 'cuz you don't know what they mean, ya know.

Forget government school...did you attend ANY school?!?!?

 

[RadiomanATL]

Providing for a well maintained military is not fascism.

Providing funds for raising an army is not fascist,

FORCING me to join the army is fascistic.

We firearms all over the house , now that the kids are gone. You don't fucking have to force me to shoot at any invading forces.

But I will not let my children or grandchildren fight in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan , Pakistan nor any military incursion designed to change regimes, steal oil , engage in violations of international law, etc.

Well there you have it. Thomas Jefferson was a fascist according to you.

Everyone is a fascist according to Comatoscious.

Fortunately, he doesn't even know what the word means. So it's kinda like being insulted by a 3 year old.

 

[RadiomanATL]

If Hitler had won the war you wouldn't be complaining about a Negro being President.

If Hitler had won, you'd be a slave of the German Empire.

If Hitler had won, he would be in a concentration camp.

He didn't exactly have tolerance for homosexuals.

 

[Contumacious]

HUH?

And who introduced NUCLEAR FUCKING WEAPONS into the battleground?

And HOW will conscription prevent the Russkies and/or AQ from launching an atomic weapon?

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Nuclear weapons used to prevent the Japanese from bombing the shit out of us again.

And research the Manhattan Project. A huge percentage of the scientists weren't American.

Actually.....we dropped the "A" bombs because a land invasion would have meant casualties the likes of which we have never seen.

I see, so if you do something to me I can kill your entire family, right?


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[L.K.Eder]

Nuclear weapons used to prevent the Japanese from bombing the shit out of us again.

And research the Manhattan Project. A huge percentage of the scientists weren't American.

Actually.....we dropped the "A" bombs because a land invasion would have meant casualties the likes of which we have never seen.

I see, so if you do something to me I can kill your entire family, right?


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seit 5:45 wird zurück geschossen.

stop abusing german heritage you brain dead morons.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Robert Paxton wrote on Facism:

a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion
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depending on your political bent you can make facism and nazism swing left or right, but the fact neither Nazis or facists were left or right, they were in their own catigory, and have no real connection to modern politics.

Nonsense...

Fascism was implemented in several nations around the world in the early 19th Century...

It came to the US in the form of the US Progressives... to Italy as Fascism and to germany as Nazism... In EVERY ONE of those nations, it was NATIONAL SOCIALISM... there's nothing "right wing" about socialism... PERIOD!

That the US culture embraced the Nationalism and in large measure predominately REJECTED the socialism, with Italy to a lessor degree; and German to an even lessor degree... embracing both the Nationalism AND the Socialism... is purely a function of the culture's respective moral foundations. With the US being moored to the Immutable principles common to the American ethic... and Europeans having long since succumbed to the addle-minded notions of Secular Humanism... it only serves reason that the cultural decay common to Europe, would realize catastrophic effects from Socialism; catastrophe orders of magnitude greater than a culture which by design, rejects dependency upon fools and the government which they organize to strip them of their independence.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Providing for a well maintained military is not fascism.

Providing funds for raising an army is not fascist,

FORCING me to join the army is fascistic.

is it? How so?

I can see such being foolish, as such feminized attitudes rarely serve the interests of a viable military... but how such serves socialism is known only to you.

Now you could claim that the nationalist aspect is fascist... but that would only serve to demonstrate the foolishness of the Left's historical revision of the term... the Left rarely misses a chance to claim that one of the traits of exemplified through fascism is a bitter hatred of communism... the second most often trotted out is the Nationalism common to fascism... Yet there are few examples of cultures which were more militaristic in their nationalis than was Mao's Marxist Red-China and the Marxist state of the Soviet Union... and the Marxist North Korean regime, communist Cuba, and any of the DOZENS of socialist African shitholes throughout the 20th century which produced such...

So I'd LOVE to see your math on that one...

We firearms all over the house , now that the kids are gone. You don't fucking have to force me to shoot at any invading forces.

Well, then... it sounds to me that using what you project as fascism... the forcible suppression of free-will... your declaration that you're prepared to forcibly suppress the free will of those who just want your TV and some cash... so as to subsidize their needs... tends to indicate that you've a fascist streak in ya.

How do ya feel about that?

But I will not let my children or grandchildren fight in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan , Pakistan nor any military incursion designed to change regimes, steal oil , engage in violations of international law, etc.

Well, that's about all I need to know what ya are... you're just a common anti-American...

What label you chose to plant on yourself is irrelevant... as you've just stated that you're not prepared to defend your nation from those governments which demonstrate their hostility towards her.

Now the question becomes, are ya just dead weight; or do you proactively support the interests of those enemies... while ya rationalize some high minded defense of your subversive tendencies?

 

[Contumacious]

Providing for a well maintained military is not fascism.

Providing funds for raising an army is not fascist,

FORCING me to join the army is fascistic.

is it? How so?

Pay attention so I don't have to repeat myself.

The Constitution authorizes congress to "raise armies" not to enslave Americans.

I do not want my children or Grandchildren sent to fight wars in order to enrich members of the Military Industrial Complex and/or powerful domestic political factions.

Since I am not effeminate I need to smell , taste and fuck pussies on a daily basis.

We firearms all over the house , now that the kids are gone. You don't fucking have to force me to shoot at any invading forces.

Well, then... it sounds to me that using what you project as fascism... the forcible suppression of free-will... your declaration that you're prepared to forcibly suppress the free will of those who just want your TV and some cash... so as to subsidize their needs... tends to indicate that you've a fascist streak in ya.

HUH?

Are you and radioman the same person?

But I will not let my children or grandchildren fight in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan , Pakistan nor any military incursion designed to change regimes, steal oil , engage in violations of international law, etc.

Well, that's about all I need to know what ya are... you're just a common anti-American...

Well from my vantage point I am pro-American and non-interventionist. Thus I am anti warmonger, anti-jingoist and anti-neocrazy.

 

[paperview]

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Geeze. And I thought there was some crazies on the last board I was on...

 

[necritan]

Hitler was a GREAT man, misunderstood but still a GREAT man.

You could do better than that....cmon troll....give it your best.

 

[Polk]

Nuclear weapons used to prevent the Japanese from bombing the shit out of us again.

By that point in the war, Japanese bombing raids weren't really the concern. I think it was a good decision to use the bomb, but let's get our history straight.