Hillary-Benghazi mom: may not fully recall about the video- so one is a liar-smart money on Hillary

Who is the liar on Benghazi

  • Hillary

    Votes: 25 89.3%
  • Pat Smith

    Votes: 3 10.7%

  • Total voters
    28
EVERY OTHER COUNTRY ORDERED THEIR PEOPLE OUT OF BENGHAZI DUE TO THE TERRORIST ATTACKS AND THE THREAT OF THE ATTACKS ON 9/11/12.....EXCEPT FOR HILLARY.


How many fucking times do you need to be told that Stevens CHOSE himself to go to Benghazi....The Embassy in Tripoli was perfectly safe; but Stevens, unwisely, CHOSE to go exactly where other diplomats had evacuated.

But, hey, you want ulcers over why this issue find Hillary blameless???.....Be my guest !!

They're like Republican Chatty Cathy dolls, Pull the string an some bullshit propaganda spews out.
 
C'mon nat, Stevens reported gatherings of over 1,000 Al Qaeida in Benghazi prior to 9/11/12, reported MORE Al Qaeida terrorist training camps were opening, and that Al Qaeida flags were flying over Benghazi govt buildings......WHILE OBAMA WAS DECLARING AL QAEIDA WAS ON THE RUN. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THEY WERE ON THE RUN, NAT?


It has been repeatedly confirmed that the attack on the diplomatic mission in Benghazi was NOT Al-Qaeda but a group of local militants who had fought against Qaddafi...but facts are an anathema to right wingers

The central figure in the attack was an eccentric, malcontent militia leader, Ahmed Abu Khattala, according to numerous Libyans present at the time. American officials briefed on the American criminal investigation into the killings call him a prime suspect. Mr. Abu Khattala declared openly and often that he placed the United States not far behind Colonel Qaddafi on his list of infidel enemies. But he had no known affiliations with terrorist groups, and he had escaped scrutiny from the 20-person C.I.A. station in Benghazi that was set up to monitor the local situation.
 
It has been repeatedly confirmed that the attack on the diplomatic mission in Benghazi was NOT Al-Qaeda but a group of local militants who had fought against Qaddafi...but facts are an anathema to right wingers

Then you should have no problem providing a link to a 'VALID' source proving that...
 
EVERY OTHER COUNTRY ORDERED THEIR PEOPLE OUT OF BENGHAZI

Our ambassador was based in Tripoli. He chose to go to Benghazi on Sept 10, 2012, no one ordered him to go.
Again, every other responsible, intelligent leader directed - ordered - those who worked for them OUT of Benghazi. They didn't give them an option because they knew and understood the imminent danger.

You also fail to mention why all the other Americans were still in Benghazi. although, again, every other nation had pulled their people out because of the danger. I'm damn-well sure that the compound had not been vacated and EVERYONE who worked there decided to travel to Benghazi that day.

But you liberals can't think that deeply, go one step further and ask those yough questions. The FAC is Hillary F*ED UP and left / allowed Americans to be in harm's way despite the previous terrorist attacks, despite the warnings of the attacks on 9/11/12, and despite the call for Stevens' assassination.

Blaming Stevens wraps it all in a nice bow for the Libs.
- Blame the dead guy for being assassinated.
- Blame the dead guy for not having over 30 pleas for additional security being approved.
- Blame the dead guy for having 14 members of his security team being taken from him after 2 terrorist attacks on his compound, the call for his assassination, and the call for a terrorist attack on 9/11/12.

Are 'we' blaming the dead guy for Hillary declaring the attack to be a protest despite the CIA saying it wasn't, despite the FBI saying it wasn't, despite Obama saying it wasn't....?

Are we blaming the dead guy for all those Americans being left in Benghazi despite all those other nations having pulled their people out?
 
Then you should have no problem providing a link to a 'VALID' source proving that...

Well, to you folks, the NYT will never be "valid"......But the point is this, many militant groups claim (except ISIS maybe) that they have an affiliation with Al-Qaeda.....All current intelligence point to the Libyan scum-bucket, Kathalla, who was and is a leader in the anti-Ghaddafi movement in that country.

Paraphrasing what Hillary stated in frustration,does it really make any fucking difference if the Libyan militants had the inspiration from Al-Qeda (remember what it means as far as "base") in Afghanistan/Pakistan......or if local Libyans wanted to commemorate 9-11 in timing their attacks?
 
Are we blaming the dead guy for all those Americans being left in Benghazi despite all those other nations having pulled their people out?


I knew that right wing morons.....like you surely are......would retort with "you're blaming the victims".....But in this case OBJECTIVELY, Stevens solely bears the responsibility for CHOOSING to go into Benghazi precisely on a time where other countries had pulled out and precisely at a time that rioting was going on in Cairo over the video...

Like it or not, the responsibility was Stevens' .......
 
Again, every other responsible, intelligent leader directed - ordered - those who worked for them OUT of Benghazi. They didn't give them an option because they knew and understood the imminent danger.

i had quite enough of you Sleazy65.......You choose to blame Hillary although both republican Gowdy and Comey could not pin this incident on her....So, spin your wheels, wallow in your own bile, have a shit-fit over your baseless accusations........but, have a nice day anyway.....LOL
 
I knew that right wing morons.....like you surely are......would retort with "you're blaming the victims".....But in this case OBJECTIVELY, Stevens solely bears the responsibility for CHOOSING to go into Benghazi precisely on a time where other countries had pulled out and precisely at a time that rioting was going on in Cairo over the video...
It's hard to claim that Stevens would bear sole responsibility for his safety since he is DEAD.

Does he claim sole responsibility for his pleas for more security being denied more than 30 times?

Does he bear sole responsibility for 14 members of his security team being stripped after 2 terrorist attacks on his compound, while there is a massive threat of a terrorist attack on 9/11/12, and while there is a call for his assassination?

Does he bear sole responsibility for all the Americans in Benghazi who were also under attack on 9/11/12, who had been left there by Hillary?

Does he bear the responsibility of being the only head of Embassy personnel who left her people in Benghazi for the terrorist attack when everyone else had pulled their people out?

Does he bear the responsibility for a Secretary of State claiming she thought Stevens asking for more security over 30 times was a JOKE, part of his sense of humor?

Does he bear the responsibility of her telling an Egyptian Ambassador and her daughter it was a terrorist attack and then lying to the American people?

Thank goodness 'we' aren't blaming the victim.
 
Again, every other responsible, intelligent leader directed - ordered - those who worked for them OUT of Benghazi. They didn't give them an option because they knew and understood the imminent danger.

i had quite enough of you Sleazy65.......You choose to blame Hillary although both republican Gowdy and Comey could not pin this incident on her....So, spin your wheels, wallow in your own bile, have a shit-fit over your baseless accusations........but, have a nice day anyway.....LOL
Nat, you seem to think that being Secretary of State means you go to parties, shake hands, and attend meetings. You fail to understand that the ENTIRE State Department, running it, being IN CHARGE of the people who work for you (not letting them do whatever they want), being responsible for their safety, is also part of the job.

Think of the State Department as the entire United States - Hillary is the President.

She gets warnings there is a pending terrorist attack on the United States (as an Embassy is US territory) and a call to assassinate a US Ambassador.

-- According to you it is not the President's job to worry about an attack on US soil. I tis not the President's responsibility to ensure the protection, safety, and security of US citizens. If members of her cabinet put themselves in harms way. F@ck 'em - not her problem. (Hillary actually said in the 60 minutes interview that Ambassador Stevens' security was not her responsibility'.)

In Hillary's actions, comments, and protecting her own ass she exposes what she will be like as President of the United States. Protecting US territory, protecting US lives? Not her responsibility, baby! F* 'Em Blame someone else - another continuation of an Obama policy.
 
Well, to you folks, the NYT will never be "valid"......
Sorry, nice try, gnat. I tis only the liberals on this board who attempt to declare sources valid or not because THEY say so.
 
EVERY OTHER COUNTRY ORDERED THEIR PEOPLE OUT OF BENGHAZI

Our ambassador was based in Tripoli. He chose to go to Benghazi on Sept 10, 2012, no one ordered him to go.
Again, every other responsible, intelligent leader directed - ordered - those who worked for them OUT of Benghazi. They didn't give them an option because they knew and understood the imminent danger.

You also fail to mention why all the other Americans were still in Benghazi. although, again, every other nation had pulled their people out because of the danger. I'm damn-well sure that the compound had not been vacated and EVERYONE who worked there decided to travel to Benghazi that day.

But you liberals can't think that deeply, go one step further and ask those yough questions. The FAC is Hillary F*ED UP and left / allowed Americans to be in harm's way despite the previous terrorist attacks, despite the warnings of the attacks on 9/11/12, and despite the call for Stevens' assassination.

Blaming Stevens wraps it all in a nice bow for the Libs.
- Blame the dead guy for being assassinated.
- Blame the dead guy for not having over 30 pleas for additional security being approved.
- Blame the dead guy for having 14 members of his security team being taken from him after 2 terrorist attacks on his compound, the call for his assassination, and the call for a terrorist attack on 9/11/12.

Are 'we' blaming the dead guy for Hillary declaring the attack to be a protest despite the CIA saying it wasn't, despite the FBI saying it wasn't, despite Obama saying it wasn't....?

Are we blaming the dead guy for all those Americans being left in Benghazi despite all those other nations having pulled their people out?

The government is pretty mums about what the CIA was doing in Benghazi. CT's abound.

I blame the Islamic Militia that carried out the attack for all the deaths.

Are you saying that what anybody said after the assault was somehow responsible for the assault?

If what you say is true, wouldn't the Ambassador be the one to make the decision on his itinerary? Why would that information have to go all the way to the very top for a decision to be made?
 
Where was the OUTRAGE by democrats over the incidents below??? Who was Sec. of State?
Learn so damn objectivity right wingers.....

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You have the logic and reasoning power of a....Nat....your handle fits you well


Again stupid Fuck, how many was blamed on a video?

How many before a national election?
God you liberals debate like small children
 
How many before a national election?


Hey, moron,,,,would the attack on the Embassy in Yemen on mid-September 2008 SATISFY your fucked up curiosity? (What an idiot....LOL)


Was it over a video? Did Bush declare the Iraq over? Did Bush call them JV?

Obama's entire theme of his campaign was he had terrorist on the run, nothing to be scared about only Man made climate change.

God you are an idiot.
 
I blame the Islamic Militia that carried out the attack for all the deaths.


Of course you do while attempting to shelter Hillary, a miserably failed Secretary of State (loss of $6 Billion, helped Obama ally with Al Qaeida to drag the US into an unsanctioned war in Libya - and Syria, and 4 Dead Americans) from any accountability.

Had Hillary and Obama not dragged us into the middle of a civil war between a dictator and Al Qaeida 4 Americans would not have died.

Had Hillary heeded the multiple warnings about the pending terrorist attack scheduled for 9/11/12 AND the warnings about the plan to assassinate Stevens 4 Americans would not have been killed.

Had Hillary pulled out ALL of the Americans in Benghazi (not just Stevens) - especially after the threat of attack on 9/11/12, after a call to assassinate Stevens, AND 2 previous terrorist attacks on his compound, 4 Americans would not have died.

Had Hillary and her State Department not denied the more than 30 (THIRTY) pleas for additional security - due to the multiple threats, massive gatherings of Al Qaeida in Benghazi, new terrorist training camps being opened in Benghazi, Al Qaeida flags being hung on Benghazi govt offices, and two terrorist attacks -4 Americans would not have died.

Had Hillary and her State Department not STRIPPED STEVENS OF 14 MEMBERS OF HIS SECURITY DETAIL after 2 terrorists attacks on his compound, multiple terrorist threats, and all of those mentioned above going on 4 Americans would not have died.

If this is how (UN-successfully) Hillary demonstrates her ability to run an AGENCY, I sure as hell don't want to entrust her with the whole country!
 
Does he claim sole responsibility for his pleas for more security being denied more than 30 times?


Check out TWO factors....(and this is my last response since wrestling with pigs....well, you know the rest)

First, there is a whole department within State that is responsible for embassies' safety and their determination does NOT have to go through the Secretary...pretty much in the same way that a general in the field of battle does not have to check with the POTUS before taking action...

Second, check out WHO in congress denied additional funds for safety and security of embassies.
 
There is no way people in power can really believe that Benghazi was caused by a youtube video? Do they have any proof that the video was seen by the people who attacked the embassy?

Didnt a group cite the video as their reasoning?

Either way I dont see the lie. She said it was in response to a video. Has that been proven wrong? Or we just think its wrong and since we think it that means that Hillary knew it was not because of the video.
 
There is no way people in power can really believe that Benghazi was caused by a youtube video? Do they have any proof that the video was seen by the people who attacked the embassy?

Didnt a group cite the video as their reasoning?

Either way I dont see the lie. She said it was in response to a video. Has that been proven wrong? Or we just think its wrong and since we think it that means that Hillary knew it was not because of the video.

It would only make sense if they had bottle rockets instead of RPGs
 
Of course you do while attempting to shelter Hillary

She needs no shelter from me. She was grilled by the House for 11 hours and came out smelling like a Rose.

Stevens was a hero for what he was trying to do in Libya. A fact diminished by the GOP's politicizing of the tragedy circumstance of his death.
 

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