Hate Your Boss? Call the Government

[chanel]

I've only hated one boss in my life. I quit. Problem solved.

 

[Stephanie]

This administration is getting more scary with each passing day.

First they want you to turn in you neighbors, now your boss?

 

[MaggieMae]

Why should taxpayers pay for the phone system for people to call a lawyer?

"Toll free phone calls" to ABA lawyers? Just more taxpayer welfare going to trial lawyers.

Anyone who is too stupid to find a lawyer on his own is probably a lousy employee in the first place.

Most people cannot find an employment lawyer without a referral, boedicca. It isn't as if Average Joe Worker keeps Jones, Day on retainer, yanno. How many do you know, offhand?

As for who is paying for the toll-free number, really? That's giving you heartburn?

Petty much?

That is ludicrous. I just entered "employment lawyer" and my city in a browser and was served up quite a few choices.

And without the intervention of the federal government. Imagine that!

Did you call to find out how much they want for a retainer? Do you pay your own disgruntled employees to afford private lawyers? (And I fully expect they are, if you come off anything like you do HERE.)

 

[MaggieMae]

So, let me get this straight.

An individual is, by your charcterization, incompetent to find the proper lawyer for his particular issue, so he should cede responsibility to an automated phone system set up by the government to direct him to whichever lawyer some anonymous functionary deems to be best?

Oh Puh-leeeze.

Try reading up on the under and unemployment among law school graduates because the economy can't absorb them all. This is legal welfare.

Two glaring errors in your assessment. First is the choice of "incompetent," which has zero to do with the issue. It's about affordability, period. Second, unemployed law school graduates don't advertise free-lance services.

 

[MaggieMae]

gotta make damn share lawyers get their fair share of federal dollars. It's like someone on Fox asked. Do they have a federal number you can call to get a lawyer if you have an asshole employee you don't know what to do with?? No,, fuck no they do not.

If figures some Fox clown would ask a question like that. You just fire the person, period, bye bye. A nofuckingbrainer.

 

[MaggieMae]

So, let me get this straight.

An individual is, by your charcterization, incompetent to find the proper lawyer for his particular issue, so he should cede responsibility to an automated phone system set up by the government to direct him to whichever lawyer some anonymous functionary deems to be best?

Oh Puh-leeeze.

Try reading up on the under and unemployment among law school graduates because the economy can't absorb them all. This is legal welfare.

"Welfare" is a hand out to the poor, am I right? Who is getting a hand out here? These clients will pay these lawyers -- they will just do so in nontraditional ways. As you say, times are hard, competition is stiff and I'm sure the lawyers are happy to have the work.

I did not say any individual is incompetent to find a proper lawyer to represent him. I said it was uncommon to have a personal or business acquaintence with an employment lawyer. Sorry the notion of bar association referrals in such situations give you a big butt hurt, but it is how such needs have best been met in the past.

You are welcome to suggest better, cheaper ways for the DOL to refer citizens to the ABA. I hate automated phone systems myself. Again, all ears here.

Admit it, boedicca. This idea is a great one which you feel honor-bound to trash because it originated with a Democrat. You are behaving like a partisan hack on this thread.

...on this thread???!! Surely you jest.

 

[MaggieMae]

Paying for the phone referral service to connect people to LAWYERS subsidizes lawyers by delivering potential clients to them without any investment in advertising or even a bloody phone system.

Yep. It's lawyer welfare.

It's not a great idea. It's another lame ass big government program to shovel taxpayer dollars for the benefit of a special interest group. It's also condescending as hell - as if an employee with a valid complaint cannot look out for his own interest by finding a lawyer.

Oh.Mi.Gawd, how does such a person survive without the Government to handle all the details of his life!

Often people who are victimized in the workplace aren't even sure if they have a valid complaint, you fool. Not everybody is as brilliant and schooled as you are on all the specifics covering everything in the whole world. People as perfect as you are should be busy writing how-to books for conservative book clubs, not preaching your holier-than-thou bullshit on Internet message boards where [sob] you won't get the admiration you so desperately seek.

 

[Stephanie]

Paying for the phone referral service to connect people to LAWYERS subsidizes lawyers by delivering potential clients to them without any investment in advertising or even a bloody phone system.

Yep. It's lawyer welfare.

It's not a great idea. It's another lame ass big government program to shovel taxpayer dollars for the benefit of a special interest group. It's also condescending as hell - as if an employee with a valid complaint cannot look out for his own interest by finding a lawyer.

Oh.Mi.Gawd, how does such a person survive without the Government to handle all the details of his life!

Often people who are victimized in the workplace aren't even sure if they have a valid complaint, you fool. Not everybody is as brilliant and schooled as you are on all the specifics covering everything in the whole world. People as perfect as you are should be busy writing how-to books for conservative book clubs, not preaching your holier-than-thou bullshit on Internet message boards where [sob] you won't get the admiration you so desperately seek.

good grief, you think everybody are idiots in this country and can't get by without Daddy Guberment.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Well, since O is the big boss of all government workers, could someone complain and have O fired?

 

[AllieBaba]

Paying for the phone referral service to connect people to LAWYERS subsidizes lawyers by delivering potential clients to them without any investment in advertising or even a bloody phone system.

Yep. It's lawyer welfare.

It's not a great idea. It's another lame ass big government program to shovel taxpayer dollars for the benefit of a special interest group. It's also condescending as hell - as if an employee with a valid complaint cannot look out for his own interest by finding a lawyer.

Oh.Mi.Gawd, how does such a person survive without the Government to handle all the details of his life!

Often people who are victimized in the workplace aren't even sure if they have a valid complaint, you fool. Not everybody is as brilliant and schooled as you are on all the specifics covering everything in the whole world. People as perfect as you are should be busy writing how-to books for conservative book clubs, not preaching your holier-than-thou bullshit on Internet message boards where [sob] you won't get the admiration you so desperately seek.

If I didn't have a clue, the government would be the last place I would go to for advice.

I would do my own research, then get a lawyer.

 

[Madeline]

Paying for the phone referral service to connect people to LAWYERS subsidizes lawyers by delivering potential clients to them without any investment in advertising or even a bloody phone system.

Yep. It's lawyer welfare.

It's not a great idea. It's another lame ass big government program to shovel taxpayer dollars for the benefit of a special interest group. It's also condescending as hell - as if an employee with a valid complaint cannot look out for his own interest by finding a lawyer.

Oh.Mi.Gawd, how does such a person survive without the Government to handle all the details of his life!

The callers are people who need skilled legal representation, boedicca. To whom should they be referred? Plumbers?

Pardon me whilst I cringe at your hypocrisy in bitching about the government taking care of people whilst at the same time you trash a move to take some government services private.

I think I have a cramp now. Thankies a lot, you con-trary woman.

 

[Stephanie]

No wonder this commie administration thinks it's a good time to install Socialism and Fascism.

sheesh, scary scary shit people

 

[WillowTree]

gotta make damn share lawyers get their fair share of federal dollars. It's like someone on Fox asked. Do they have a federal number you can call to get a lawyer if you have an asshole employee you don't know what to do with?? No,, fuck no they do not.

If figures some Fox clown would ask a question like that. You just fire the person, period, bye bye. A nofuckingbrainer.

Just like quitting a bosss you don't like is a no fucking brainer,, but no,, the wh has to get involved.. you people give me the creeps.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

We may disagree on what employment practices should be illegal, Willow but I bet we agree that, where possible, privatization is best. If you had been screwed out of pay at work, who would you rather have working on your case? Some DOL employee or a private attorney that dun get paid unless he wins your case and collects?

This SHOULD have been met with applause by any conservative. But presumably, since the idea came from a Democrat, they instead ridiculed it.

Don't you ever get tired of partisan bullshit in the media? I do.

Who the hell works and doesn't get paid? Don't pay me, I don't come back. Buh bye and good riddance.

I promise you, that number will be jammed up by the same malcontents that bitch and whine all day about everything and nothing. Probably 90% of the callers will have lawsuits pending, somewhere, some disability scam going, probably spend 1/2 their time at pain clinics too. I've been working for damn near 40 years, I've never not been paid. I don't know anyone who's not been paid.

Whatever.

 

[Madeline]

Paying for the phone referral service to connect people to LAWYERS subsidizes lawyers by delivering potential clients to them without any investment in advertising or even a bloody phone system.

Yep. It's lawyer welfare.

It's not a great idea. It's another lame ass big government program to shovel taxpayer dollars for the benefit of a special interest group. It's also condescending as hell - as if an employee with a valid complaint cannot look out for his own interest by finding a lawyer.

Oh.Mi.Gawd, how does such a person survive without the Government to handle all the details of his life!

Often people who are victimized in the workplace aren't even sure if they have a valid complaint, you fool. Not everybody is as brilliant and schooled as you are on all the specifics covering everything in the whole world. People as perfect as you are should be busy writing how-to books for conservative book clubs, not preaching your holier-than-thou bullshit on Internet message boards where [sob] you won't get the admiration you so desperately seek.

If I didn't have a clue, the government would be the last place I would go to for advice.

I would do my own research, then get a lawyer.

Well, that's a wee bit hard to do, Allie. There are laws, decisions, settlements, advisories, and regulations affecting labor and employment law in this country generated by -- gasp! -- agencies of the federal government. To avoid looking to the government for advice on such questions would be kinda sorta like trying to compute adjusted gross income without referring -- EVA! -- to any work product of the IRS.

O, and the judges who make decisions in such cases? Also government.

Where do you plan to have your rights enforced? The Food Network's new show?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

gotta make damn share lawyers get their fair share of federal dollars. It's like someone on Fox asked. Do they have a federal number you can call to get a lawyer if you have an asshole employee you don't know what to do with?? No,, fuck no they do not.

If figures some Fox clown would ask a question like that. You just fire the person, period, bye bye. A nofuckingbrainer.

Just like quitting a bosss you don't like is a no fucking brainer,, but no,, the wh has to get involved.. you people give me the creeps.

What do you expect from a bunch of retarded Nanny-Staters? If they had their way, there'd be a government sponsored 800 number they could ring up for help with their McDonald's order.

 

[AllieBaba]

Often people who are victimized in the workplace aren't even sure if they have a valid complaint, you fool. Not everybody is as brilliant and schooled as you are on all the specifics covering everything in the whole world. People as perfect as you are should be busy writing how-to books for conservative book clubs, not preaching your holier-than-thou bullshit on Internet message boards where [sob] you won't get the admiration you so desperately seek.

If I didn't have a clue, the government would be the last place I would go to for advice.

I would do my own research, then get a lawyer.

Well, that's a wee bit hard to do, Allie. There are laws, decisions, settlements, advisories, and regulations affecting labor and employment law in this country generated by -- gasp! -- agencies of the federal government. To avoid looking to the government for advice on such questions would be kinda sorta like trying to compute adjusted gross income without referring -- EVA! -- to any work product of the IRS.

O, and the judges who make decisions in such cases? Also government.

Where do you plan to have your rights enforced? The Food Network's new show?

Not some new panel of lawyers at the White House who are paid to dig up garbage, I'll tell you that.

I'd start with BOLI, then possibly call the DA, if it's a criminal case.

 

[boedicca]

Most people cannot find an employment lawyer without a referral, boedicca. It isn't as if Average Joe Worker keeps Jones, Day on retainer, yanno. How many do you know, offhand?

As for who is paying for the toll-free number, really? That's giving you heartburn?

Petty much?

That is ludicrous. I just entered "employment lawyer" and my city in a browser and was served up quite a few choices.

And without the intervention of the federal government. Imagine that!

Did you call to find out how much they want for a retainer? Do you pay your own disgruntled employees to afford private lawyers? (And I fully expect they are, if you come off anything like you do HERE.)

My staff are happy, well paid, with good jobs. Thank you very much.

And why do you think that the ABA lawyers to whom the toll free number will refer people won't require retainers? ( If they don't, it's because they've gotten the feds to shovel pork at them.)

Really, you are an imbecile.

 

[Madeline]

Yes, as we all know, lawyers are useless as each and every one of you is quite able to handle all your own legal affairs, cradle to grave.

Bite. Me.

 

[boedicca]

Paying for the phone referral service to connect people to LAWYERS subsidizes lawyers by delivering potential clients to them without any investment in advertising or even a bloody phone system.

Yep. It's lawyer welfare.

It's not a great idea. It's another lame ass big government program to shovel taxpayer dollars for the benefit of a special interest group. It's also condescending as hell - as if an employee with a valid complaint cannot look out for his own interest by finding a lawyer.

Oh.Mi.Gawd, how does such a person survive without the Government to handle all the details of his life!

The callers are people who need skilled legal representation, boedicca. To whom should they be referred? Plumbers?

Pardon me whilst I cringe at your hypocrisy in bitching about the government taking care of people whilst at the same time you trash a move to take some government services private.

I think I have a cramp now. Thankies a lot, you con-trary woman.

All lawyers are not created equal, hun.

I would not trust a government referral over my own network of contacts and my own judgment. Nor would I wish to subject somebody who needed legal help to such a bogus system.