Hate Your Boss? Call the Government

[Madeline]

That is ludicrous. I just entered "employment lawyer" and my city in a browser and was served up quite a few choices.

And without the intervention of the federal government. Imagine that!

Did you call to find out how much they want for a retainer? Do you pay your own disgruntled employees to afford private lawyers? (And I fully expect they are, if you come off anything like you do HERE.)

My staff are happy, well paid, with good jobs. Thank you very much.

And why do you think that the ABA lawyers to whom the toll free number will refer people won't require retainers? ( If they don't, it's because they've gotten the feds to shovel pork at them.)

Really, you are an imbecile.

Uh, because it says so in the article?

 

[WillowTree]

Yes, as we all know, lawyers are useless as each and every one of you is quite able to handle all your own legal affairs, cradle to grave.

Bite. Me.

Can't do it. doc put me on a low fat diet yesterday.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Yes, as we all know, lawyers are useless as each and every one of you is quite able to handle all your own legal affairs, cradle to grave.

Bite. Me.

Yeah.. you should try it. It's very rewarding to be your own master.



Nobody's claiming they never needed a lawyer; ponly that this sort of shit just gets old.

 

[boedicca]

Paying for the phone referral service to connect people to LAWYERS subsidizes lawyers by delivering potential clients to them without any investment in advertising or even a bloody phone system.

Yep. It's lawyer welfare.

It's not a great idea. It's another lame ass big government program to shovel taxpayer dollars for the benefit of a special interest group. It's also condescending as hell - as if an employee with a valid complaint cannot look out for his own interest by finding a lawyer.

Oh.Mi.Gawd, how does such a person survive without the Government to handle all the details of his life!

Often people who are victimized in the workplace aren't even sure if they have a valid complaint, you fool. Not everybody is as brilliant and schooled as you are on all the specifics covering everything in the whole world. People as perfect as you are should be busy writing how-to books for conservative book clubs, not preaching your holier-than-thou bullshit on Internet message boards where [sob] you won't get the admiration you so desperately seek.

Yet another sobbing bit of drama which assumes that most people are incompetent and cannot find out anything for themselves without Government Help.

This is likely the case with Haggie, but most of us are competent individuals are able to make actual decisions And Stuff.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Gotta love the left.... always with the "somebody save me from myself".

 

[boedicca]

We may disagree on what employment practices should be illegal, Willow but I bet we agree that, where possible, privatization is best. If you had been screwed out of pay at work, who would you rather have working on your case? Some DOL employee or a private attorney that dun get paid unless he wins your case and collects?

This SHOULD have been met with applause by any conservative. But presumably, since the idea came from a Democrat, they instead ridiculed it.

Don't you ever get tired of partisan bullshit in the media? I do.

Who the hell works and doesn't get paid? Don't pay me, I don't come back. Buh bye and good riddance.

I promise you, that number will be jammed up by the same malcontents that bitch and whine all day about everything and nothing. Probably 90% of the callers will have lawsuits pending, somewhere, some disability scam going, probably spend 1/2 their time at pain clinics too. I've been working for damn near 40 years, I've never not been paid. I don't know anyone who's not been paid.

Whatever.

I'd love to see a survey of the complaints. Some of the top ones are sure to be:

- My boss was mean to me for getting to work a little bit late.
- My boss won't let me watch porn on my company computer during my lunch break.
- My job is boring and my boss won't give me a better one.
- I want a raise but my boss won't give me one.
- My boss wrote me up for missing work without calling in.

 

[Madeline]

Yes, as we all know, lawyers are useless as each and every one of you is quite able to handle all your own legal affairs, cradle to grave.

Bite. Me.

Yeah.. you should try it. It's very rewarding to be your own master.



Nobody's claiming they never needed a lawyer; ponly that this sort of shit just gets old.

What sort of shit would that be, Soggy? No new rights have been created, no new clients solicited. These are American taxpayers whose labor law complaints the DOL cannot handle in a timely manner and who are being referred to private lawyers for better service at almost no cost to you, the taxpayer.

It sure looks like a win/win. Please point out the grave sin this represents, because when it works, I am myself a huge fan of privatization.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

We may disagree on what employment practices should be illegal, Willow but I bet we agree that, where possible, privatization is best. If you had been screwed out of pay at work, who would you rather have working on your case? Some DOL employee or a private attorney that dun get paid unless he wins your case and collects?

This SHOULD have been met with applause by any conservative. But presumably, since the idea came from a Democrat, they instead ridiculed it.

Don't you ever get tired of partisan bullshit in the media? I do.

Who the hell works and doesn't get paid? Don't pay me, I don't come back. Buh bye and good riddance.

I promise you, that number will be jammed up by the same malcontents that bitch and whine all day about everything and nothing. Probably 90% of the callers will have lawsuits pending, somewhere, some disability scam going, probably spend 1/2 their time at pain clinics too. I've been working for damn near 40 years, I've never not been paid. I don't know anyone who's not been paid.

Whatever.

I'd love to see a survey of the complaints. Some of the top ones are sure to be:

- My boss was mean to me for getting to work a little bit late.
- My boss won't let me watch porn on my company computer during my lunch break.
- My job is boring and my boss won't give me a better one.
- I want a raise but my boss won't give me one.
- My boss wrote me up for missing work without calling in.

- My boss demands that I produce... something, anything.

 

[boedicca]

I wonder how much of a cut the "Contingency" lawyers will want. That isn't disclosed, so it's likely very hefty.

This is just another scam in which the government is used by lawyers to shake down companies.

 

[boedicca]

Yes, as we all know, lawyers are useless as each and every one of you is quite able to handle all your own legal affairs, cradle to grave.

Bite. Me.

Yeah.. you should try it. It's very rewarding to be your own master.



Nobody's claiming they never needed a lawyer; ponly that this sort of shit just gets old.

What sort of shit would that be, Soggy? No new rights have been created, no new clients solicited. These are American taxpayers whose labor law complaints the DOL cannot handle in a timely manner and who are being referred to private lawyers for better service at almost no cost to you, the taxpayer.

It sure looks like a win/win. Please point out the grave sin this represents, because when it works, I am myself a huge fan of privatization.

It's not a win win. It's a taxpayers and small businesses lose when the government assists their employees to find shyster lawyers to shake them down.

 

[Madeline]

We may disagree on what employment practices should be illegal, Willow but I bet we agree that, where possible, privatization is best. If you had been screwed out of pay at work, who would you rather have working on your case? Some DOL employee or a private attorney that dun get paid unless he wins your case and collects?

This SHOULD have been met with applause by any conservative. But presumably, since the idea came from a Democrat, they instead ridiculed it.

Don't you ever get tired of partisan bullshit in the media? I do.

Who the hell works and doesn't get paid? Don't pay me, I don't come back. Buh bye and good riddance.

I promise you, that number will be jammed up by the same malcontents that bitch and whine all day about everything and nothing. Probably 90% of the callers will have lawsuits pending, somewhere, some disability scam going, probably spend 1/2 their time at pain clinics too. I've been working for damn near 40 years, I've never not been paid. I don't know anyone who's not been paid.

Whatever.

I'd love to see a survey of the complaints. Some of the top ones are sure to be:

- My boss was mean to me for getting to work a little bit late.
- My boss won't let me watch porn on my company computer during my lunch break.
- My job is boring and my boss won't give me a better one.
- I want a raise but my boss won't give me one.
- My boss wrote me up for missing work without calling in.

What an evil view you have of the American worker, boedicca. I'm surprised you can abide having any around.

BTW, none of the complaints you think are popular state a cause of action. People call DOL when their employer will not pay them wages they have earned, or are trying to force them to work in dangerous conditions, or have fired them for illegal reasons.

But hey, they should just suck it up, right? You'd certainly lay down for that mistreatment, I bet.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Yes, as we all know, lawyers are useless as each and every one of you is quite able to handle all your own legal affairs, cradle to grave.

Bite. Me.

Yeah.. you should try it. It's very rewarding to be your own master.



Nobody's claiming they never needed a lawyer; ponly that this sort of shit just gets old.

What sort of shit would that be, Soggy? No new rights have been created, no new clients solicited. These are American taxpayers whose labor law complaints the DOL cannot handle in a timely manner and who are being referred to private lawyers for better service at almost no cost to you, the taxpayer.

It sure looks like a win/win. Please point out the grave sin this represents, because when it works, I am myself a huge fan of privatization.

Looka.. I've never gone to the DOL, I don't know of anyone who had gone to the DOL, as an employer I've never been contacted by the DOL except for not filling out a questionnaire, which I threw in the garbage. Who are these people?

I Guarantee you this: the bulk of them will have long histories of all sorts of bad things having happened to them.. real and imagined.

 

[Madeline]

Yeah.. you should try it. It's very rewarding to be your own master.



Nobody's claiming they never needed a lawyer; ponly that this sort of shit just gets old.

What sort of shit would that be, Soggy? No new rights have been created, no new clients solicited. These are American taxpayers whose labor law complaints the DOL cannot handle in a timely manner and who are being referred to private lawyers for better service at almost no cost to you, the taxpayer.

It sure looks like a win/win. Please point out the grave sin this represents, because when it works, I am myself a huge fan of privatization.

It's not a win win. It's a taxpayers and small businesses lose when the government assists their employees to find shyster lawyers to shake them down.

So, basically your complaint is that we have any labor laws in this country at all? You miss the days of child labor, do ya?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Who the hell works and doesn't get paid? Don't pay me, I don't come back. Buh bye and good riddance.

I promise you, that number will be jammed up by the same malcontents that bitch and whine all day about everything and nothing. Probably 90% of the callers will have lawsuits pending, somewhere, some disability scam going, probably spend 1/2 their time at pain clinics too. I've been working for damn near 40 years, I've never not been paid. I don't know anyone who's not been paid.

Whatever.

I'd love to see a survey of the complaints. Some of the top ones are sure to be:

- My boss was mean to me for getting to work a little bit late.
- My boss won't let me watch porn on my company computer during my lunch break.
- My job is boring and my boss won't give me a better one.
- I want a raise but my boss won't give me one.
- My boss wrote me up for missing work without calling in.

What an evil view you have of the American worker, boedicca. I'm surprised you can abide having any around.

BTW, none of the complaints you think are popular state a cause of action. People call DOL when their employer will not pay them wages they have earned, or are trying to force them to work in dangerous conditions, or have fired them for illegal reasons.

But hey, they should just suck it up, right? You'd certainly lay down for that mistreatment, I bet.

No, just these workers.

 

[boedicca]

Who the hell works and doesn't get paid? Don't pay me, I don't come back. Buh bye and good riddance.

I promise you, that number will be jammed up by the same malcontents that bitch and whine all day about everything and nothing. Probably 90% of the callers will have lawsuits pending, somewhere, some disability scam going, probably spend 1/2 their time at pain clinics too. I've been working for damn near 40 years, I've never not been paid. I don't know anyone who's not been paid.

Whatever.

I'd love to see a survey of the complaints. Some of the top ones are sure to be:

- My boss was mean to me for getting to work a little bit late.
- My boss won't let me watch porn on my company computer during my lunch break.
- My job is boring and my boss won't give me a better one.
- I want a raise but my boss won't give me one.
- My boss wrote me up for missing work without calling in.

What an evil view you have of the American worker, boedicca. I'm surprised you can abide having any around.

BTW, none of the complaints you think are popular state a cause of action. People call DOL when their employer will not pay them wages they have earned, or are trying to force them to work in dangerous conditions, or have fired them for illegal reasons.

But hey, they should just suck it up, right? You'd certainly lay down for that mistreatment, I bet.

You are wrong. I have a very high opinion of most workers. This program won't appeal to the good ones. The good ones take care of themselves.

This program will attract the bottom feeding whiners.

 

[Madeline]

Yeah.. you should try it. It's very rewarding to be your own master.



Nobody's claiming they never needed a lawyer; ponly that this sort of shit just gets old.

What sort of shit would that be, Soggy? No new rights have been created, no new clients solicited. These are American taxpayers whose labor law complaints the DOL cannot handle in a timely manner and who are being referred to private lawyers for better service at almost no cost to you, the taxpayer.

It sure looks like a win/win. Please point out the grave sin this represents, because when it works, I am myself a huge fan of privatization.

Looka.. I've never gone to the DOL, I don't know of anyone who had gone to the DOL, as an employer I've never been contacted by the DOL except for not filling out a questionnaire, which I threw in the garbage. Who are these people?

I Guarantee you this: the bulk of them will have long histories of all sorts of bad things having happened to them.. real and imagined.

Try and follow the bouncing ball here, Soggy. The callers in this story are being referred out of the DOL and onto private lawyers. It matters not whether in fact any DOL employee has been butt hurt as these callers will never speak to one.

Yanno, I know people who work in the VA who have not served in the military. I know some FBI agents who have never committed a crime. Hell, I even know a few IRS agents who have always paid their taxes in full and on time.

Not everyone who works for the government is out to get you, Soggy.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

What sort of shit would that be, Soggy? No new rights have been created, no new clients solicited. These are American taxpayers whose labor law complaints the DOL cannot handle in a timely manner and who are being referred to private lawyers for better service at almost no cost to you, the taxpayer.

It sure looks like a win/win. Please point out the grave sin this represents, because when it works, I am myself a huge fan of privatization.

It's not a win win. It's a taxpayers and small businesses lose when the government assists their employees to find shyster lawyers to shake them down.

So, basically your complaint is that we have any labor laws in this country at all? You miss the days of child labor, do ya?

Nope. Just miss the days when we didn't need all this shit to keep the nitwits who exist in a perpetual state of distress placated.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

What sort of shit would that be, Soggy? No new rights have been created, no new clients solicited. These are American taxpayers whose labor law complaints the DOL cannot handle in a timely manner and who are being referred to private lawyers for better service at almost no cost to you, the taxpayer.

It sure looks like a win/win. Please point out the grave sin this represents, because when it works, I am myself a huge fan of privatization.

Looka.. I've never gone to the DOL, I don't know of anyone who had gone to the DOL, as an employer I've never been contacted by the DOL except for not filling out a questionnaire, which I threw in the garbage. Who are these people?

I Guarantee you this: the bulk of them will have long histories of all sorts of bad things having happened to them.. real and imagined.

Try and follow the bouncing ball here, Soggy. The callers in this story are being referred out of the DOL and onto private lawyers. It matters not whether in fact any DOL employee has been butt hurt as these callers will never speak to one.

Yanno, I know people who work in the VA who have not served in the military. I know some FBI agents who have never committed a crime. Hell, I even know a few IRS agents who have always paid their taxes in full and on time.

Not everyone who works for the government is out to get you, Soggy.

See post #55.. as for the rest.. WTF?

 

[Madeline]

I'd love to see a survey of the complaints. Some of the top ones are sure to be:

- My boss was mean to me for getting to work a little bit late.
- My boss won't let me watch porn on my company computer during my lunch break.
- My job is boring and my boss won't give me a better one.
- I want a raise but my boss won't give me one.
- My boss wrote me up for missing work without calling in.

What an evil view you have of the American worker, boedicca. I'm surprised you can abide having any around.

BTW, none of the complaints you think are popular state a cause of action. People call DOL when their employer will not pay them wages they have earned, or are trying to force them to work in dangerous conditions, or have fired them for illegal reasons.

But hey, they should just suck it up, right? You'd certainly lay down for that mistreatment, I bet.

You are wrong. I have a very high opinion of most workers. This program won't appeal to the good ones. The good ones take care of themselves.

This program will attract the bottom feeding whiners.

I see. So your theory is, no good employer has ever been cheated out his wages, fired for an illegal reason, made to work in unsafe conditions or elsewise had a cause of action against his employer. Such things do not ever, ever EVA happen to good people -- only "whiners".

All employers are good and all employees are venial.

Got it. Any more fairy tales you'd like to share with the rest of us?

 

[boedicca]

What sort of shit would that be, Soggy? No new rights have been created, no new clients solicited. These are American taxpayers whose labor law complaints the DOL cannot handle in a timely manner and who are being referred to private lawyers for better service at almost no cost to you, the taxpayer.

It sure looks like a win/win. Please point out the grave sin this represents, because when it works, I am myself a huge fan of privatization.

It's not a win win. It's a taxpayers and small businesses lose when the government assists their employees to find shyster lawyers to shake them down.

So, basically your complaint is that we have any labor laws in this country at all? You miss the days of child labor, do ya?

So basically you think the government should do everything for us?

I'm not saying that employees aren't protected by laws. I just don't think it is the governments business to provided an ABA match making service at taxpayers' expense.