HARD RIGHT TURN: How The GOP Destroyed Its Moderates

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If you're selling something (i.e. limited liabilities for lawsuits) you have a buyer/seller symbiotic relationship, your naïve notions notwithstanding.

BTW, the biggest baddest multinational corporation in the world is called "District of Columbia, which was chartered in 1871.

From the National Archives:



Records of the Government of the District of Columbia

The government wasn't selling anything back when it was doing its due diligence to protect ACTUAL citizens from the grasping and abuse of virtual (legally constructed) "citizens."

When they're offering protection to corporate straw men, they're selling something.

Gubmint lost all high ground when they started granting right-of-way and mineral rights monopolies that empowered and enabled the so-called "Robber Barons"....The progressive movement then doubled down on this protection racketeering with their creation of the Federal Reserve and the modern welfare state.

Kinda like they prop up the health insurance industry.

 

[Dot Com]

They also conveniently ignore all the arm twisting of the so-called "moderates" on the democrat side, when we got Obolshevikcare jammed up our asses.

Its called "Obamneycare" and it was developed by the AEI (heard of them?[hint: they aint a progressive organization]) and implemented by Romney (R) (heard of him?) Glad to help Who r u votin for this time @ anyway

Applying a state law to a discussion of federal law in meaningful...how ?

Always glad to educate you on how our system works.

AEI developed it as an alternative to Hillary Clinton's HC task force's recommendations. That wasn't a state program.

Always glad to educate you on how our system works.

 

[Oddball]

The government wasn't selling anything back when it was doing its due diligence to protect ACTUAL citizens from the grasping and abuse of virtual (legally constructed) "citizens."

When they're offering protection to corporate straw men, they're selling something.

Gubmint lost all high ground when they started granting right-of-way and mineral rights monopolies that empowered and enabled the so-called "Robber Barons"....The progressive movement then doubled down on this protection racketeering with their creation of the Federal Reserve and the modern welfare state.

Kinda like they prop up the health insurance industry.

Yeah...Prop it up until it becomes a convenient scapegoat, then they take it over under the phony rubric of "protecting" us.

 

[Listening]

Its called "Obamneycare" and it was developed by the AEI (heard of them?[hint: they aint a progressive organization]) and implemented by Romney (R) (heard of him?) Glad to help Who r u votin for this time @ anyway

Applying a state law to a discussion of federal law in meaningful...how ?

Always glad to educate you on how our system works.

AEI developed it as an alternative to Hillary Clinton's HC task force's recommendations. That wasn't a state program.

Always glad to educate you on how our system works.

Romney didn't implement anything at the federal level.

Always glad to educate you on history.

 

[Barb]

If you're selling something (i.e. limited liabilities for lawsuits) you have a buyer/seller symbiotic relationship, your naïve notions notwithstanding.

BTW, the biggest baddest multinational corporation in the world is called "District of Columbia, which was chartered in 1871.

From the National Archives:



Records of the Government of the District of Columbia

The government wasn't selling anything back when it was doing its due diligence to protect ACTUAL citizens from the grasping and abuse of virtual (legally constructed) "citizens."

When they're offering protection to corporate straw men, they're selling something.

Gubmint lost all high ground when they started granting right-of-way and mineral rights monopolies that empowered and enabled the so-called "Robber Barons"....The progressive movement then doubled down on this protection racketeering with their creation of the Federal Reserve and the modern welfare state.

Problem there being is that you're one of the biggest apologists for the federal protection rackets when it suits your aims.

When its doing its JOB

You seem to like it when its NOT.

The EPA under Reagan did that.

 

[Oddball]

The government wasn't selling anything back when it was doing its due diligence to protect ACTUAL citizens from the grasping and abuse of virtual (legally constructed) "citizens."

When they're offering protection to corporate straw men, they're selling something.

Gubmint lost all high ground when they started granting right-of-way and mineral rights monopolies that empowered and enabled the so-called "Robber Barons"....The progressive movement then doubled down on this protection racketeering with their creation of the Federal Reserve and the modern welfare state.

Problem there being is that you're one of the biggest apologists for the federal protection rackets when it suits your aims.

When its doing its JOB

You seem to like it when its NOT.

The EPA under Reagan did that.

You're fine with it when they exceed their authority to ostensibly achieve ends with which you agree, so cry me a river.

And the EPA is just another big protection racket.

 

[Barb]

When they're offering protection to corporate straw men, they're selling something.

Gubmint lost all high ground when they started granting right-of-way and mineral rights monopolies that empowered and enabled the so-called "Robber Barons"....The progressive movement then doubled down on this protection racketeering with their creation of the Federal Reserve and the modern welfare state.

Problem there being is that you're one of the biggest apologists for the federal protection rackets when it suits your aims.

When its doing its JOB

You seem to like it when its NOT.

The EPA under Reagan did that.

You're fine with it when they exceed their authority to ostensibly achieve ends with which you agree, so cry me a river.

And the EPA is just another big protection racket.

The EPA is a government agency, and it has specific marching orders. Under SOME administrations it has the ability to carry out those orders. Some other administrations underfund them for the duh re me that funds their election campaigns. Their authority is that of the federal government. Oh the fucking HORROR that it does its fucking JOB.

 

[Trajan]

By Jonathan Chait

Rule And Ruin: The Downfall of Moderation and the Destruction of the Republican Party, from Eisenhower to the Tea Party.

MITT ROMNEY HAS BEEN running for president as the Republican nominee, de facto or de jure, for eight months now, and the grand historical joke of it has not yet worn off. A party that has set itself to frantically, fanatically expunge its moderates, quasi-moderates, suspected moderates, and fellow travelers of moderates chose as its standard bearer the lineal heir, biographically and genealogically, to its moderate tradition. It entrusted its holy crusade to repeal Barack Obama’s hated health-care law to the man who had inspired it and run, four years before, promising to do the same for the rest of America. The man and his historical moment could not be more incongruous. It was as if the Mongol tribes of the thirteenth century, setting out to pillage their way across the Asian steppe, had somehow chosen Mahatma Gandhi as their supreme khan.

Romney’s capture of the nomination required an incredible confluence of good fortune. Any one of several Republicans—Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Paul Ryan—could have outflanked Romney in both grassroots enthusiasm and establishment support but chose not to run. The one candidate with the standing and financial reach to challenge him who did grasp for the prize, Rick Perry, performed his duties with such comic, stammering ineptitude that his final oops-de-grace by that point was not even startling. What remained to challenge Romney was a gaggle of third-raters lacking the money or the rudimentary organization even to get their name on the ballot everywhere. Still, running even against the likes of Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum (which is to say, running essentially unopposed), Romney still trudged laboriously to victory after endless weeks.

But there is another way to make at least some sense of the Romney nomination.

IT HAS TO DO WITH the strange and sad fate of Republican moderation. After all, moderates, or at least relative moderates, do continue to exist in the Republican Party. They merely do not exercise power in any meaningful, open way. They provide off-the-record quotations to reporters, expressing unease over whichever radical turn the party has taken at any given moment. They can be found in Washington and elsewhere rolling their eyes at their colleagues. The odd figure with nothing left to lose—say, a senator who has lost a primary challenge—may even deliver a forceful assault on the party’s uncompromising direction.

For the most part, though, Republican moderation is a kind of secret creed, a freemasonry of the right. It lacks institutions that might legitimize it, or even a language to express itself. And since conservatism is the only acceptable ideology, the party has no open arguments with itself. Thus the “debate” in the Republican Party is entirely between genuine ideological warriors and unwilling conscripts, with intraparty skirmishes generally taking the form of hunts for secret heresies.

In this sense, Romney’s capture of the nomination is perfectly emblematic of the state of the party. Conservative activists spent months resisting Romney, sometimes furiously, despite the fact that he was defending no positions that they disagreed with. Across the entire ideological spectrum—in social, economic, and foreign policy—Romney stood shoulder to shoulder with his party’s reactionary wing. When Romney took on his hapless opponents, he assailed them from the right, as soft on immigration or anti-capitalist. The sole point of hesitation centered on conservatives’ suspicion that Romney did not actually believe what he was saying.

FIFTY YEARS AGO, the conservative movement, far from holding a monopoly on acceptable thought within the GOP, was merely one tribe vying for power within it, and not even the largest one. Geoffrey Kabaservice’s fine book tells the story of the slow extinction of the party’s moderate and liberal wings. The conservative movement, he shows in often gruesome detail, took control of the party in large part due to an imbalance of passion. The rightists had strong and clearly defined principles and a willingness to fight for them, while the moderates lacked both. Meeting by meeting, caucus by caucus, the conservative minority wrested control of the party apparatus. Sometimes this happened through physical force or the threat thereof. (Anybody who recalls the “Brooks Brothers riot” during the 2000 election imbroglio in Florida, when a Republican mob shut down a vote recount in Dade County, will find many of Kabaservice’s scenes familiar.) More often, the conservatives won out by packing meetings, staying until everybody else was exhausted, and other classic methods of organized fanatics. The moderates lacked the ideological self-confidence to wage these fights with equal gusto, and battle by battle they lost ground until finally there was nowhere left to stand within the party.

Much More: How The GOP Destroyed Its Moderates | The New Republic

Survey question, does your stupidity hurt? Is it painful?


Rahm Emmanuel did his job, he looked for and ran con democrats for and took the house in 06, but what he didn't know was they were just cannon fodder for general pelosi, to be used and then trashed after obamacare was passed and they lost 66 seats in the house

And it hasn't stopped either......


Posted at 04:25 PM ET, 04/25/2012
Blue Dog Democrats trying to stave off extinction following Pennsylvania losses
By Paul Kane

Just two years removed from being the most powerful voting bloc on Capitol Hill, Blue Dog Democrats are now trying to stave off political extinction.

On Tuesday Reps. Jason Altmire and Tim Holden, members of the moderate-to-conservative caucus of Democrats known as the Blue Dog
Coalition, lost their primary battles to more liberal opponents who painted their centrism as apostasies that could no longer be tolerated.


These were the latest blows delivered to the Blue Dogs, whose membership ranks have been decimated the last two years by a perfect political storm that has driven the House Democratic caucus farther to the left than at any time in the last decade.

It’s increasingly unclear whether Democrats can ever reclaim the House majority unless they pick up ground in the conservative-leaning terrain that the Blue Dogs once represented. In addition, with so few moderates left, there are fewer House members in the political center to create the sort of bipartisan coalition that in the past has provided the bulwark of support for budget compromises.

More at

Blue Dog Democrats trying to stave off extinction following Pennsylvania losses - 2chambers - The Washington Post

 

[Oddball]

When its doing its JOB

You seem to like it when its NOT.

The EPA under Reagan did that.

You're fine with it when they exceed their authority to ostensibly achieve ends with which you agree, so cry me a river.

And the EPA is just another big protection racket.

The EPA is a government agency, and it has specific marching orders. Under SOME administrations it has the ability to carry out those orders. Some other administrations underfund them for the duh re me that funds their election campaigns. Their authority is that of the federal government. Oh the fucking HORROR that it does its fucking JOB.

The EPA is a giant protection racket, which erects regulatory barriers that only the wealthiest of big corporations can clear, leaving smaller businesses to either sell out or close their doors....Moreover, it attracts big lobbying groups to pimp for regulating one's competitors out of existence.

Congratulations for supporting the further big-corporatization and cartelization of America, comrade.

 

[Dot Com]

When its doing its JOB

You seem to like it when its NOT.

The EPA under Reagan did that.

You're fine with it when they exceed their authority to ostensibly achieve ends with which you agree, so cry me a river.

And the EPA is just another big protection racket.

The EPA is a government agency, and it has specific marching orders. Under SOME administrations it has the ability to carry out those orders. Some other administrations underfund them for the duh re me that funds their election campaigns. Their authority is that of the federal government. Oh the fucking HORROR that it does its fucking JOB.

Repubs only keep the lights on but the building empty. Same w/ the Dept of Labor. Assclowns.

 

[Oddball]

You're fine with it when they exceed their authority to ostensibly achieve ends with which you agree, so cry me a river.

And the EPA is just another big protection racket.

The EPA is a government agency, and it has specific marching orders. Under SOME administrations it has the ability to carry out those orders. Some other administrations underfund them for the duh re me that funds their election campaigns. Their authority is that of the federal government. Oh the fucking HORROR that it does its fucking JOB.

Repubs only keep the lights on but the building empty. Same w/ the Dept of Labor. Assclowns.

I'm not a republican and you can take your useless Department of Labor and shove that up your ass too, assclown.

 

[Trajan]

The EPA is a government agency, and it has specific marching orders. Under SOME administrations it has the ability to carry out those orders. Some other administrations underfund them for the duh re me that funds their election campaigns. Their authority is that of the federal government. Oh the fucking HORROR that it does its fucking JOB.

Repubs only keep the lights on but the building empty. Same w/ the Dept of Labor. Assclowns.

I'm not a republican and you can take your useless Department of Labor and shove that up your ass too, assclown.

Can I add the dept. of education?

 

[tinydancer]

By Jonathan Chait

Rule And Ruin: The Downfall of Moderation and the Destruction of the Republican Party, from Eisenhower to the Tea Party.

MITT ROMNEY HAS BEEN running for president as the Republican nominee, de facto or du jourde jure, for eight months now, and the grand historical joke of it has not yet worn off. A party that has set itself to frantically, fanatically expunge its moderates, quasi-moderates, suspected moderates, and fellow travelers of moderates chose as its standard bearer the lineal heir, biographically and genealogically, to its moderate tradition. It entrusted its holy crusade to repeal Barack Obama’s hated health-care law to the man who had inspired it and run, four years before, promising to do the same for the rest of America. The man and his historical moment could not be more incongruous. It was as if the Mongol tribes of the thirteenth century, setting out to pillage their way across the Asian steppe, had somehow chosen Mahatma Gandhi as their supreme khan.

Romney’s capture of the nomination required an incredible confluence of good fortune. Any one of several Republicans—Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Paul Ryan—could have outflanked Romney in both grassroots enthusiasm and establishment support but chose not to run. The one candidate with the standing and financial reach to challenge him who did grasp for the prize, Rick Perry, performed his duties with such comic, stammering ineptitude that his final oops-de-grace by that point was not even startling. What remained to challenge Romney was a gaggle of third-raters lacking the money or the rudimentary organization even to get their name on the ballot everywhere. Still, running even against the likes of Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum (which is to say, running essentially unopposed), Romney still trudged laboriously to victory after endless weeks.

But there is another way to make at least some sense of the Romney nomination.

IT HAS TO DO WITH the strange and sad fate of Republican moderation. After all, moderates, or at least relative moderates, do continue to exist in the Republican Party. They merely do not exercise power in any meaningful, open way. They provide off-the-record quotations to reporters, expressing unease over whichever radical turn the party has taken at any given moment. They can be found in Washington and elsewhere rolling their eyes at their colleagues. The odd figure with nothing left to lose—say, a senator who has lost a primary challenge—may even deliver a forceful assault on the party’s uncompromising direction.

For the most part, though, Republican moderation is a kind of secret creed, a freemasonry of the right. It lacks institutions that might legitimize it, or even a language to express itself. And since conservatism is the only acceptable ideology, the party has no open arguments with itself. Thus the “debate” in the Republican Party is entirely between genuine ideological warriors and unwilling conscripts, with intraparty skirmishes generally taking the form of hunts for secret heresies.

In this sense, Romney’s capture of the nomination is perfectly emblematic of the state of the party. Conservative activists spent months resisting Romney, sometimes furiously, despite the fact that he was defending no positions that they disagreed with. Across the entire ideological spectrum—in social, economic, and foreign policy—Romney stood shoulder to shoulder with his party’s reactionary wing. When Romney took on his hapless opponents, he assailed them from the right, as soft on immigration or anti-capitalist. The sole point of hesitation centered on conservatives’ suspicion that Romney did not actually believe what he was saying.

FIFTY YEARS AGO, the conservative movement, far from holding a monopoly on acceptable thought within the GOP, was merely one tribe vying for power within it, and not even the largest one. Geoffrey Kabaservice’s fine book tells the story of the slow extinction of the party’s moderate and liberal wings. The conservative movement, he shows in often gruesome detail, took control of the party in large part due to an imbalance of passion. The rightists had strong and clearly defined principles and a willingness to fight for them, while the moderates lacked both. Meeting by meeting, caucus by caucus, the conservative minority wrested control of the party apparatus. Sometimes this happened through physical force or the threat thereof. (Anybody who recalls the “Brooks Brothers riot” during the 2000 election imbroglio in Florida, when a Republican mob shut down a vote recount in Dade County, will find many of Kabaservice’s scenes familiar.) More often, the conservatives won out by packing meetings, staying until everybody else was exhausted, and other classic methods of organized fanatics. The moderates lacked the ideological self-confidence to wage these fights with equal gusto, and battle by battle they lost ground until finally there was nowhere left to stand within the party.

Much More: How The GOP Destroyed Its Moderates | The New Republic

How can I believe a man who doesn't even know how to spell du jour

I'm not trying to alter your words. I am trying only to high light yiour faux pas. When the uneducated attempt to use certain words or colloquial terms its always a fail.

 

[tinydancer]

When its doing its JOB

You seem to like it when its NOT.

The EPA under Reagan did that.

You're fine with it when they exceed their authority to ostensibly achieve ends with which you agree, so cry me a river.

And the EPA is just another big protection racket.

The EPA is a government agency, and it has specific marching orders. Under SOME administrations it has the ability to carry out those orders. Some other administrations underfund them for the duh re me that funds their election campaigns. Their authority is that of the federal government. Oh the fucking HORROR that it does its fucking JOB.

You are insane.

 

[Oddball]

Repubs only keep the lights on but the building empty. Same w/ the Dept of Labor. Assclowns.

I'm not a republican and you can take your useless Department of Labor and shove that up your ass too, assclown.

Can I add the dept. of education?

Oh yeah...Let's throw in the Departments of Commerce, Energy, HHS, HUD and Fatherl....er.....Homeland Security for good measure.

 

[Trajan]

I'm not a republican and you can take your useless Department of Labor and shove that up your ass too, assclown.

Can I add the dept. of education?

Oh yeah...Let's throw in the Departments of Commerce, Energy, HHS, HUD and Fatherl....er.....Homeland Security for good measure.

Dude run..... the squaw just reported you to attackwatch.

 

[Oddball]

 

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[jillian]

Here is your list of names for the day...

Henry 'Scoop' Jackson, Richard 'Prince of Darkness' Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Scooter Libby, Douglas Feith, Robert Kagan, Norman Podhoretz, John Podhoretz, Alan Dershowtiz, Daniel Pipes, Eliot Cohen, Irving Kristol, Bill Kristol, Max Boot, James Schlesinger, Marc Grossman, Joshua Bolten, Frank Gaffney, Michael Rubin.

If you don't find them at Sunday services at Falwell's Thomas Road Baptist Church, or sitting around watching Pat Robertson's 'The 700 Club', check the Synagogues...

oy vay!

screw you...

some names you left out...

richard armitage
dick cheney
donald rumsfeld
peter rodman
francis fukuyama
bill bennet
zalmay khalizad

and those were just names off of the pnac letter to bill clinton in 1998

Letter to President Clinton on Iraq

p.s. scoop jackson isn't jewish, neither are bolton or schlesinger ... oops.

so no to both of you... it is not only far-right theocrats who are neo-cons... it's just one section of the GOP ... far more numerous than the wacko randians.

You're right about Jackson, but you are wrong about Joshua Bolten and James Schlesinger, both Jewish.

The theocrats in the GOP are fundie Christians.

it's john robert bolton. i'm not sure where you're getting 'joshua' from.

you're right about schlesinger, though. that isn't an excuse for your implication.

 

[Plasmaball]

Funny we never see any of the liberals here worry about THEIR PARTY and how far left they have drifed..how many Socialist they now have in the Democrat party..


DSA-Members: American Socialist Voter - Democratic Socialists of America - 10-1-09

Repeat the lie often enough you start to believe your own bullshit.