Good advice to young women be a good wife and mother

[Harpy Eagle]

Oh just shut your pie-hole. You are one of the most clueless people posting at this site.

Shouldn't you be getting ready for your shift as fry cook?

 

[Blaster]

Shouldn't you be getting ready for your shift as fry cook?

Just another stupid comment from you. Are you ever serious on any topic?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Society wires us. If you grow up with the expectation that men’s only value is in providing income for a family, they develop significant mental health problems when they’re unable to do so.

Likewise this speech demonstrates that society is programming women to think their true purpose in life is to raise kids and if they choose career they’re causing harm to their families.

POST OF THE THREAD.

Well said.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Just another stupid comment from you. Are you ever serious on any topic?

 

[Blaster]

A nice try but I've already won this debate. Now please leave the adults discuss the topic.

 

[Foxfyre]

Society wires us. If you grow up with the expectation that men’s only value is in providing income for a family, they develop significant mental health problems when they’re unable to do so.

Likewise this speech demonstrates that society is programming women to think their true purpose in life is to raise kids and if they choose career they’re causing harm to their families.

And society is dishonest to the core when it accuses somebody of saying what they didn't say. Which is what you seem to be doing here.

 

[Marener]

And society is dishonest to the core when it accuses somebody of saying what they didn't say. Which is what you seem to be doing here.

Just going with logic.

If someone says being a stay at home mother is the most important job, then it implies that choosing a different path is failing to fulfill their purpose in life.

If someone says that being a stay at home mom Is the healthiest thing for kids, then it implies that choosing a different path results in less healthy kids.

Society needs to end their old tropes of men being hunters and women being gatherers because these tropes are useless and probably never all that true to begin with.

Society changes. Work changes. Success changes.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Just going with logic.

If someone says being a stay at home mother is the most important job, then it implies that choosing a different path is failing to fulfill their purpose in life.

If someone says that being a stay at home mom Is the healthiest thing for kids, then it implies that choosing a different path results in less healthy kids.

Society needs to end their old tropes of men being hunters and women being gatherers because these tropes are useless and probably never all that true to begin with.

Society changes. Work changes. Success changes.

Once again, well said.

The only point I would quibble with is that it was once true that men were the hunters as they had the physical attributes for it.

But, we no longer live in those days and it is time to put all those tropes behind us.

My daughter is 29 and lots of friends and family are starting to ask us when she is going to "settle down and start a family"...it gets annoying after a while.

 

[initforme]

Greed is good is the reason so many women can no longer stay at home.

Greed is a big component of capitalism. Who wants to sit at home if alot of money can be made? Why should anyone expect any person, man or woman, to stay home and watch others garner nice possessions, trips, etc.

 

[Foxfyre]

Sadly, sometimes a married couple just cannot meet minimum standards unless they both work. and this is not about them.

If the husband can earn enough to get by, the wife should be home with the toddlers. It changes the discussion if the wife wants to work, because she doesn't want to be a freaking stay at home mother. She's making the decision to put her selfish needs first, and her children second.

You cannot give your full attention to your young children as a mother, when you chose to work a 9-5 job that you prob hate anyway You'll give almost half your paycheck to strangers to watch your kid, while you work that awesome job, that you hate, with coworkers you can't stand.

Meanwhile the daycare may not even like your children. They may not treat them kindly. A mean babysitter can be mentally and physically abusive, and start your child down the road of having insecurities, and not liking themselves, cuz they are told what a bad child they are.

These strangers babysitting your child might fill their heads full of bad habits or teach them inappropriate things. But hey, you have a job you don't like, cuz you refuse to demean yourself by being a stay at home mom.

There are wonderful people whose vocation is caring for other people's children and blessed are those working moms who find such people. But you're right. You don't know what's happening to your child all day while you work a full time job. Or what your latchkey kids are doing when they come home to an empty house after school instead of a mom to greet them most days, to tell their triumphs and troubles to, to steer them away from things they shouldn't be doing.

Study after study have confirmed that children with a parent at home generally do better in relationships, have far less depression and stress, less aggression, generally do better in school and other activities, are far less likely to get involved with illegal substances and activities.

That doesn't mean that kids with two working parents can't or don't do as well. Of course some do especially if they have loving, caring support from others. But the fact is it will be harder for most kids and they can have long lasting issues and problems that they might not have otherwise had.

 

[pknopp]

Greed is a big component of capitalism. Who wants to sit at home if alot of money can be made? Why should anyone expect any person, man or woman, to stay home and watch others garner nice possessions, trips, etc.

According to Harrison women should.

 

[initforme]

According to Harrison women should.

If that's what they want then by all means stay ho.e. A growing number of women don't want that and somehow it's a problem
You can't possibly blame them for wanting to have nice things and nice vacations and putting money away so they can retire as early as possible. There is not one negative in that whole scenario

 

[pknopp]

If that's what they want then by all means stay ho.e. A growing number of women don't want that and somehow it's a problem

No, the problem is someone else trying to tell someone else what is best for them.

You can't possibly blame them for wanting to have nice things and nice vacations and putting money away so they can retire as early as possible. There is not one negative in that whole scenario

No idea why you would think I would.

 

[lennypartiv]

He seems to be an expert at screwing himself over.
World class expert.

He'll be a future politician with the party that has morals.

 

[d0gbreath]

He'll be a future politician with the party that has morals.

So he'll be a Democratic Party President in the future?

 

[lennypartiv]

So he'll be a Democratic Party President in the future?

It would be cool to see Trump then DeSantis then Butker in the White House, but he probably should hold some local seats first.

 

[d0gbreath]

It would be cool to see Trump then DeSantis then Butker in the White House, but he probably should hold some local seats first.

None of your dreams are going to come true.

 

[Wapasha]

There are wonderful people whose vocation is caring for other people's children and blessed are those working moms who find such people. But you're right. You don't know what's happening to your child all day while you work a full time job. Or what your latchkey kids are doing when they come home to an empty house after school instead of a mom to greet them most days, to tell their triumphs and troubles to, to steer them away from things they shouldn't be doing.

Study after study have confirmed that children with a parent at home generally do better in relationships, have far less depression and stress, less aggression, generally do better in school and other activities, are far less likely to get involved with illegal substances and activities.

That doesn't mean that kids with two working parents can't or don't do as well. Of course some do especially if they have loving, caring support from others. But the fact is it will be harder for most kids and they can have long lasting issues and problems that they might not have otherwise had.

Children need structure in their lives. Having mom at home does this. They may not appreciate all the time, but when they go to a friends house and his home is always empty, they feel relieved to have a stay home mom. They feel loved and protected when they know mom is there for them.

My experience has been that bigger families usually have a stay at home mom. It's the only child homes, where both parents are never home cuz they're dedicated to their jobs. Having children is not their priority, their careers are, and their kids know it.

 

[initforme]

Oooooooh no not enough births in the usa....cmon people grow up

 

[Anathema]

Yep it's great to be stuck in the house 24/7. That Era is over things are only going to progress from here on out.

Then human society IS as doomed as I have believed. Without that feminine, nurturing, domestic energy in the house, no family can ever really reach its full potential. Never have been and never will be able to.