Growing Hidden White Racism

[Unkotare]

there is racism you lying fucking asshole

Who said there isn't racism, and who are you talking to, headcase?

 

[Truthmatters]

Only racists deny racism exsists

 

[Unkotare]

your racist dreams are crumbling.

Your Longing for the "good old days" will NEVER be met with reality.

Its a Very good thing for mankind that you racists will be so very disappointed with this countries future.

Who is it you think you are posting this to?

Racists

Be more specific. Who on this thread?

 

[Unkotare]

This is no 'social trend,' it is merely one person's subjective impression. Nothing more to it than that.

Of course, but what study would cover a change in attitude that the group in question is afraid of uttering a single sylable of for fear of becoming a social pariah? No one is going to sit in a study group and say 'I think blacks are unevolved feral versions of humanity.' Not to anyone that represents authority, but perhaps to a fellow that they are drinking beer with and who assumesshares the same point of view.

And my personal observation is that this stealth racism is resurgant, virile and getting bolder by the day.

I am not a racist and that is a considered and evolved position. I am aware of what I was taught while growing up in the 50's and there has been significant re and de programming that I've had to learn in order to shake all of that off.

That said, there is a racial divide in this country and it is not prolonged exclusively by Whites. In truth, the racial divide is more defined and expanded by the activities of Blacks than by Whites. The stereotypes of pants on the ground and hats on sideways and gang-based attitudes are not things that Whites make up. These are things that hold Blacks away from assimilation into society.

It's okay that Blacks refuse to become parts of society and refuse to excel in areas that could promote a wealthier life style. It is not okay that Blacks do all of those things AND demand that they be accepted and rewarded for being incompetent, illiterate and insulting.

There is a language of society that marks a person before the first word is uttered in any setting. If a Black person in all ways calls up the image of Bill Cosby or if he in all ways calls up the image of Flava Flav, there will be a different response from anyone regardless of race.

As Charles Barkley reminded us, Race is a taboo subject and it shouldn't be.

As long as the Black Leaders of today exhort Blacks to actively avoid succeeding in this society and imply that joining the society is the same as selling out, they are disserving their followers.

Your failure to understand all those things does nothing to improve the situation.

 

[Unkotare]

It does seem an epidemic of ignorance has developed since President Obama was elected to our nation's highest office. Those who don't accept the fact that a man of color holds that office were shaken to their core when he was elected and no matter the consequences to our nation they hope he fails.

McConnell, Boehner, Cantor and others will sacrifice anything in their efforts to discredit and criticize every word The President utters and ever policy he proposes - even if their motive is not based on the color of his skin, and only on their lust for power, what they have done (and not done) during President Obama's first term is despicable.

It is dishonest and irresponsible for you to try and mix up your personal political views and the subject of this thread the way you just did. You should be ashamed of yourself for doing so. It makes you a bad citizen. As for the first part of your unfortunate post, provide some real proof or stop with the empty dramatizing.

 

[JimBowie1958]

your racist dreams are crumbling.

Your Longing for the "good old days" will NEVER be met with reality.

Its a Very good thing for mankind that you racists will be so very disappointed with this countries future.

Your reading comprehension skill are pathetic.

I wasnt cheering this shit on, but expressing my shock and outrage, dude.

 

[Unkotare]

Only racists deny racism exsists

Who on this thread has denied that racism exists? Are you having a conversation with your imaginary friend, or is it just that you really have nothing to say?

 

[JimBowie1958]

This is no 'social trend,' it is merely one person's subjective impression. Nothing more to it than that.

Of course, but what study would cover a change in attitude that the group in question is afraid of uttering a single sylable of for fear of becoming a social pariah?.

Then why make baseless generalizations?

OK, I will explain it again and type really slow for you, lol.

I am talking about it because I am coming across this kind of stupidity at an ever increasing frequency, and this has exploded since Obama got elected. He has fanned the flames of hidden white racism inadvertantly, mostly by not censoring Holder.

I am concerned about this; that it doesnt seem to be worthy of being on your radar screen does not reflect on me.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Whether or not there is racism, there is a significant number of black people who need racisim and have learned to rely on racism to get whatever it is they feel they are owed.

That is true. There is an industry that thrives on racial distrust and victimization.

They are the principle reason that we may be missing our moment to destroy race as a concept and move on to a post racial paradigm in human relations.

The most important factors of a person are their values/courage/beliefs, their faithfulness to the family/community/nation, and their willingness to work and produce.

Such people exist in all races, so why cant we move past this 19th century bullshit?

 

[JimBowie1958]

there is racism you lying fucking asshole

The meaning of your posts might be considerablemade more clear if you used some form of attribution so we all MIGHT KNOW WHO THE HELL YOU ARE REFERING TO.

Duh.

 

[Unkotare]

Of course, but what study would cover a change in attitude that the group in question is afraid of uttering a single sylable of for fear of becoming a social pariah?.

Then why make baseless generalizations?

OK, I will explain it again and type really slow for you, lol.

I am talking about it because I am coming across this kind of stupidity at an ever increasing frequency, and this has exploded since Obama got elected.

You don't need to type slowly, you need to read carefully. The subjective impressions from your one tiny, less-than-significant life are no basis upon which to form conclusions about the state of race relations in the country as a whole or any reasons therefore. You could have just said, 'hey, I seem to notice more racist jerks now that obama is president. what about you guys?' But no, you had to over-reach and try to play Jr. Sociologist. That is where you went off the tracks.

 

[JimBowie1958]

This is no 'social trend,' it is merely one person's subjective impression. Nothing more to it than that.

Of course, but what study would cover a change in attitude that the group in question is afraid of uttering a single sylable of for fear of becoming a social pariah? No one is going to sit in a study group and say 'I think blacks are unevolved feral versions of humanity.' Not to anyone that represents authority, but perhaps to a fellow that they are drinking beer with and who assumesshares the same point of view.

And my personal observation is that this stealth racism is resurgant, virile and getting bolder by the day.

I am not a racist and that is a considered and evolved position. I am aware of what I was taught while growing up in the 50's and there has been significant re and de programming that I've had to learn in order to shake all of that off.

That said, there is a racial divide in this country and it is not prolonged exclusively by Whites. In truth, the racial divide is more defined and expanded by the activities of Blacks than by Whites. The stereotypes of pants on the ground and hats on sideways and gang-based attitudes are not things that Whites make up. These are things that hold Blacks away from assimilation into society.

It's okay that Blacks refuse to become parts of society and refuse to excel in areas that could promote a wealthier life style. It is not okay that Blacks do all of those things AND demand that they be accepted and rewarded for being incompetent, illiterate and insulting.

There is a language of society that marks a person before the first word is uttered in any setting. If a Black person in all ways calls up the image of Bill Cosby or if he in all ways calls up the image of Flava Flav, there will be a different response from anyone regardless of race.

As Charles Barkley reminded us, Race is a taboo subject and it shouldn't be.

As long as the Black Leaders of today exhort Blacks to actively avoid succeeding in this society and imply that joining the society is the same as selling out, they are disserving their followers.

I agree with almost all you said, but I dont think ALL blacks are as you describe, nor all black leaders as bad either. But I think you do describe the majority of the problem very well.

 

[sealybobo]

I m not talking about mere bigotry or preference for ones own. The sspread of white attitudes that dismiss blacks as sub-human, in effect, is becoming more blatant with each day.

The comments on this story:
Cops: Teen Beaten Unconscious Following Dodge Ball Fight « CBS Houston
illustrates what I am talking about. This kind of thing was not often read on sites prior to Obama and when they did bob to the surface like a toilet bowl floater, they were almost immediately denounced in such strident terms that the idiot would go elsewhere.

Not any more.

And having grown up in the South in the sixties, I remember that the sort of people who would talk racist trash post 64 were a minority of low income whites, but not educated whites. In the past two weeks I have overheard three racist comments by white men who were dressed proffessionally and twice I was told to my face blatantly racist things like, 'F^&* Obama, that damned N*$%^r. Things wont get better till that monkey gets thrown from office.'

The guy who said that wasn wearing a sweat stained blue collar shirt, or overalls like one might have expected low-brow racists to wear after the 64 Civil Rights Act. This man is a financial pro handling lots of loans to commercial outfits and was very well dressed at the time.

Obama has failed to lead this country toward a non-racial vision, instead giving free reign to the race baitors and making the situation far worse.

I pray it does not explode, but I fear it eventually will.

Angry Republicans who'd argue with me during the Clinton era were just as angry, but they weren't using the N word because Clinton was white. Having a black man in the white house has exposed what we already knew. Their numbers aren't growing though. This kind of thinking doesn't win over independents. It may get a few racists to show up to vote who might not otherwise vote. So all this talk about race is just the GOP's tactic to rally their base. But its also rallying ours. And I believe there are more of us than them. And most of those racists are in red states, not swing states. So fuck those broke asses who vote along with their slave masters in Alabama. BFD.

I think they are a dying breed. Anger and hatred and racism aren't winning over the young generation. Plus the GOP thinks only business owners should make good money and most of the young kids aren't looking to start a corporation. They're looking for jobs. No matter what color you are, if you are middle class or poor, the GOP thinks we are all N*#(&rs.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Then why make baseless generalizations?

OK, I will explain it again and type really slow for you, lol.

I am talking about it because I am coming across this kind of stupidity at an ever increasing frequency, and this has exploded since Obama got elected.

You don't need to type slowly, you need to read carefully. The subjective impressions from your one tiny, less-than-significant life are no basis upon which to form conclusions about the state of race relations in the country as a whole or any reasons therefore. You could have just said, 'hey, I seem to notice more racist jerks now that obama is president. what about you guys?' But no, you had to over-reach and try to play Jr. Sociologist. That is where you went off the tracks.

I am not playing anything, Einstein. I am simply sharing observations, and yes, trying to see if anyone has experienced similar things.

I was not attempting to get into some pedantic snark contest with people who really dont give a shit.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I m not talking about mere bigotry or preference for ones own. The sspread of white attitudes that dismiss blacks as sub-human, in effect, is becoming more blatant with each day.

The comments on this story:
Cops: Teen Beaten Unconscious Following Dodge Ball Fight « CBS Houston
illustrates what I am talking about. This kind of thing was not often read on sites prior to Obama and when they did bob to the surface like a toilet bowl floater, they were almost immediately denounced in such strident terms that the idiot would go elsewhere.

Not any more.

And having grown up in the South in the sixties, I remember that the sort of people who would talk racist trash post 64 were a minority of low income whites, but not educated whites. In the past two weeks I have overheard three racist comments by white men who were dressed proffessionally and twice I was told to my face blatantly racist things like, 'F^&* Obama, that damned N*$%^r. Things wont get better till that monkey gets thrown from office.'

The guy who said that wasn wearing a sweat stained blue collar shirt, or overalls like one might have expected low-brow racists to wear after the 64 Civil Rights Act. This man is a financial pro handling lots of loans to commercial outfits and was very well dressed at the time.

Obama has failed to lead this country toward a non-racial vision, instead giving free reign to the race baitors and making the situation far worse.

I pray it does not explode, but I fear it eventually will.

Angry Republicans who'd argue with me during the Clinton era were just as angry, but they weren't using the N word because Clinton was white. Having a black man in the white house has exposed what we already knew. Their numbers aren't growing though. This kind of thinking doesn't win over independents. It may get a few racists to show up to vote who might not otherwise vote. So all this talk about race is just the GOP's tactic to rally their base. But its also rallying ours. And I believe there are more of us than them. And most of those racists are in red states, not swing states. So fuck those broke asses who vote along with their slave masters in Alabama. BFD.

I think they are a dying breed. Anger and hatred and racism aren't winning over the young generation. Plus the GOP thinks only business owners should make good money and most of the young kids aren't looking to start a corporation. They're looking for jobs. No matter what color you are, if you are middle class or poor, the GOP thinks we are all N*#(&rs.

If they are a dying breed as you say then they are getting more vocal, it seems.

 

[code1211]

Those who hate others because of the color of their skin, the church in which they worship (or don't worship), a persons ethnicity or sexual orientation and even their gender, do so out of ignorance. Ignorance breed of fear and training.

It does seem an epidemic of ignorance has developed since President Obama was elected to our nation's highest office. Those who don't accept the fact that a man of color holds that office were shaken to their core when he was elected and no matter the consequences to our nation they hope he fails.

McConnell, Boehner, Cantor and others will sacrifice anything in their efforts to discredit and criticize every word The President utters and ever policy he proposes - even if their motive is not based on the color of his skin, and only on their lust for power, what they have done (and not done) during President Obama's first term is despicable.

So, to be clear, you're blaming the three persons you cite for the failures of Obama?

 

[code1211]

Of course, but what study would cover a change in attitude that the group in question is afraid of uttering a single sylable of for fear of becoming a social pariah? No one is going to sit in a study group and say 'I think blacks are unevolved feral versions of humanity.' Not to anyone that represents authority, but perhaps to a fellow that they are drinking beer with and who assumesshares the same point of view.

And my personal observation is that this stealth racism is resurgant, virile and getting bolder by the day.

I am not a racist and that is a considered and evolved position. I am aware of what I was taught while growing up in the 50's and there has been significant re and de programming that I've had to learn in order to shake all of that off.

That said, there is a racial divide in this country and it is not prolonged exclusively by Whites. In truth, the racial divide is more defined and expanded by the activities of Blacks than by Whites. The stereotypes of pants on the ground and hats on sideways and gang-based attitudes are not things that Whites make up. These are things that hold Blacks away from assimilation into society.

It's okay that Blacks refuse to become parts of society and refuse to excel in areas that could promote a wealthier life style. It is not okay that Blacks do all of those things AND demand that they be accepted and rewarded for being incompetent, illiterate and insulting.

There is a language of society that marks a person before the first word is uttered in any setting. If a Black person in all ways calls up the image of Bill Cosby or if he in all ways calls up the image of Flava Flav, there will be a different response from anyone regardless of race.

As Charles Barkley reminded us, Race is a taboo subject and it shouldn't be.

As long as the Black Leaders of today exhort Blacks to actively avoid succeeding in this society and imply that joining the society is the same as selling out, they are disserving their followers.

Your failure to understand all those things does nothing to improve the situation.

Enlighten me.

 

[Katzndogz]

Whether or not there is racism, there is a significant number of black people who need racisim and have learned to rely on racism to get whatever it is they feel they are owed.

You're missing the more nefarious side of that conclusion.

No I didn't. I simply chose not to mention it. Intelligent people won't miss the nefarious side of that conclusion.

 

[Unkotare]

And I believe there are more of us than them.

More racists on the left? Yeah, I think so too.

 

[Unkotare]

OK, I will explain it again and type really slow for you, lol.

I am talking about it because I am coming across this kind of stupidity at an ever increasing frequency, and this has exploded since Obama got elected.

You don't need to type slowly, you need to read carefully. The subjective impressions from your one tiny, less-than-significant life are no basis upon which to form conclusions about the state of race relations in the country as a whole or any reasons therefore. You could have just said, 'hey, I seem to notice more racist jerks now that obama is president. what about you guys?' But no, you had to over-reach and try to play Jr. Sociologist. That is where you went off the tracks.

I am not playing anything, Einstein. I am simply sharing observations, and yes, trying to see if anyone has experienced similar things.

So you're saying the problem is that you communicate so poorly? Could be.