“Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East

[Roudy]

Choseh Goozo, maps from Neo Nazi sites don't count.

Ridam be khomeini.

 

[Phoenall]

Oops! That's what Isis wants, too.

well at least Isis use to have Iraq, till bibi though they shouldn't. But the jos, came from mainly Russia.

Strange that as he comes from somewhere else that is wholly islamonazi.

Or do you mean the Jews that came from the M.E. with a few coming from Eastern Europe. No migration out of Russia remember, you could not get a passport

 

[Phoenall]

The "promised land" is make believe. Herzl wasn't even a jew, he was an Russian or German atheist.

That is why they want Assad out, and Obama is helping them. Its all a scam.

I personally think Iran would make a better ally to us, as even Reagan had problems with Israel. They have been the cause of most of the problem in the ME , them and Saudi Arabia.

"they have been the cause of most of the problem in the ME......"



So Islamic terrorists groups causing mayhem and slaughtering tens of thousands, evil dictators oppressing their own people, raging war in Syria & Iraq is because of Israel?

This is why I call pro Palestinians deluded people. Perfect example here folks

Islamic terrorist that Israel is so concerned about, I heard they are more concerned about Assad that them. The communist atheist should of never been allowed to move there, Britain is probably still sorry they let them.
That land never belonged to them and most of them are not even jewish.

And your proof that they were communist atheists is what exactly, some piece of paper from your imam telling you so.

After WWII there were some who lost their faith and were not practicing jews except on holy days, but their heritage was still very important to them. They are Israelis no matter their faith or practice.

Not unless they were born there. Or their parent was, Besides it was never Israel, only a small part of it and only for a short time.

WRONG on all counts. And as for the arab muslims they held the land for barely 25 years, and have not had any control for the last 200 years at least. So it was never arab muslim not even one speck of dust

 

[Daniyel]

There is the small difference that changes everything starting by the very small opening words - Theodore Hertzel wasn't the "founding father" as stated, Hertzel is called the "prophet" as he vision the foundation of Israel and is also famous for the picture of him glaring to distance in his balcony.
Therefore the implying statements these are some sort of a master plan started by Hertzel is false.
This is by the way the lines of Biblical Israel and as we know most of the Zionists modernized fathers were actually secular, I can point out many flaws in this ridiculous thread to sink it down but instead let's think different, what point are YOU trying to make here?

 

[montelatici]

"they have been the cause of most of the problem in the ME......"



So Islamic terrorists groups causing mayhem and slaughtering tens of thousands, evil dictators oppressing their own people, raging war in Syria & Iraq is because of Israel?

This is why I call pro Palestinians deluded people. Perfect example here folks

Islamic terrorist that Israel is so concerned about, I heard they are more concerned about Assad that them. The communist atheist should of never been allowed to move there, Britain is probably still sorry they let them.
That land never belonged to them and most of them are not even jewish.

And your proof that they were communist atheists is what exactly, some piece of paper from your imam telling you so.

After WWII there were some who lost their faith and were not practicing jews except on holy days, but their heritage was still very important to them. They are Israelis no matter their faith or practice.

Not unless they were born there. Or their parent was, Besides it was never Israel, only a small part of it and only for a short time.

WRONG on all counts. And as for the arab muslims they held the land for barely 25 years, and have not had any control for the last 200 years at least. So it was never arab muslim not even one speck of dust

It was Muslim from when Saladin defeated the Latin Kingdom (a Christian kingdom) in 1187 until 1918. It was never Jewish at all since the Romans evicted the Jews. So, what is your point?

 

[Phoenall]

Islamic terrorist that Israel is so concerned about, I heard they are more concerned about Assad that them. The communist atheist should of never been allowed to move there, Britain is probably still sorry they let them.
That land never belonged to them and most of them are not even jewish.

And your proof that they were communist atheists is what exactly, some piece of paper from your imam telling you so.

After WWII there were some who lost their faith and were not practicing jews except on holy days, but their heritage was still very important to them. They are Israelis no matter their faith or practice.

Not unless they were born there. Or their parent was, Besides it was never Israel, only a small part of it and only for a short time.

WRONG on all counts. And as for the arab muslims they held the land for barely 25 years, and have not had any control for the last 200 years at least. So it was never arab muslim not even one speck of dust

It was Muslim from when Saladin defeated the Latin Kingdom (a Christian kingdom) in 1187 until 1918. It was never Jewish at all since the Romans evicted the Jews. So, what is your point?

It was not arab muslim is my point, and it is the arab muslims as opposed to the Turkish muslims that are making the false claims. The Ottoman muslims being the legal land owners in 1917 gave up ownership after being defeated during WW1 and the ownership passed to the LoN. At no time since 1099 has Palestine been under the ownership of arab muslims, and it is doubtful it ever will be. It became Jewish once more under International law in 1922 when the legal owners made a gift of the land and proclaimed it the National home of the Jews in Palestine. They did not make it one of 20 arab muslim national homes did they. So as I say above it is not arab muslim, not one speck of dust. So GET OUT OF ISREAL AND STAY OUT UNTIL YOU LEARN TO BE CIVILISED HUMAN BEINGS

 

[montelatici]

"It was not arab muslim"

So what, it was Muslim.

" the legal owners made a gift of the land"

No, the UN says as of 3 September 1947, 85% of the land belongs to the Arab population in United Nations Report A/364, para. 164. Quit bullshitting.

UNITED​

NATIONS​

A

• 
  General Assembly

A/364
3 September 1947
OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE SECOND SESSION OF ​

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY​

​

SUPPLEMENT No. 11​

​

UNITED NATIONS
SPECIAL COMMITTEE
ON PALESTINE​

​

REPORT TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY​

​

VOLUME 1​

​

Lake Success
New York
1947​

​

"164. The Arab population, despite the strenuous efforts of Jews to acquire land in Palestine, at present remains in possession of approximately 85 per cent of the land. The provisions of the land transfer regulations of 1940, which gave effect to the 1939 White Paper policy, have severely restricted the Jewish efforts to acquire new land."

 

[Roudy]

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -


"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".

- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -


"As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education in the Middle East included. The fact is that today's Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today's Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni (the leader of the Palestinian revolution) after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village Beit Sahur (The Shepherds Fields) in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families. The town has now grown to 30,000 inhabitants".

- An "ex-Palestinian" Arab -

 

[Phoenall]

"It was not arab muslim"

So what, it was Muslim.

" the legal owners made a gift of the land"

No, the UN says as of 3 September 1947, 85% of the land belongs to the Arab population in United Nations Report A/364, para. 164. Quit bullshitting.

UNITED
NATIONS
A

• 
  General Assembly

A/364
3 September 1947
OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE SECOND SESSION OF
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY


SUPPLEMENT No. 11



UNITED NATIONS
SPECIAL COMMITTEE
ON PALESTINE



REPORT TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

VOLUME 1





Lake Success
New York
1947
​

"164. The Arab population, despite the strenuous efforts of Jews to acquire land in Palestine, at present remains in possession of approximately 85 per cent of the land. The provisions of the land transfer regulations of 1940, which gave effect to the 1939 White Paper policy, have severely restricted the Jewish efforts to acquire new land."

Go away and think about this for about 10 years. The land was not arab ( forget the religion for the moment ) but it was Turkish. Then the Turks were beaten in a war and they had to give up the land to the Europeans who then became the land owners. With me so far Abdul. The Europeans proceeded to partition the land into separate parcels for different groups, and gave the smallest and least significant parcel to the Jews. The arabs received 99% of the land while the Jews and Christians received just 1%. It had nothing to do with population figures or land occupancy but all to do with actual ownership of the territory and International Law. In 1922 the land was passed into Jewish state ownership through the Mandate for Palestine and entered into International law. The UN has no authority in this matter and were in breach of International law when they proposed the Partition plan and implemented it. You would be singing a different tune if it had been arab muslim land given to Jews under some anti Islamic organisations attempts to wipe out the arab muslims.

Now who owns the land you live on, do you or do you just hold title to the land with covenants dictating who owns the mineral rights, passage, access and common use.

 

[aris2chat]

"It was not arab muslim"

So what, it was Muslim.

" the legal owners made a gift of the land"

No, the UN says as of 3 September 1947, 85% of the land belongs to the Arab population in United Nations Report A/364, para. 164. Quit bullshitting.

UNITED
NATIONS
A

• 
  General Assembly

A/364
3 September 1947
OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE SECOND SESSION OF
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY


SUPPLEMENT No. 11



UNITED NATIONS
SPECIAL COMMITTEE
ON PALESTINE



REPORT TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

VOLUME 1





Lake Success
New York
1947
​

"164. The Arab population, despite the strenuous efforts of Jews to acquire land in Palestine, at present remains in possession of approximately 85 per cent of the land. The provisions of the land transfer regulations of 1940, which gave effect to the 1939 White Paper policy, have severely restricted the Jewish efforts to acquire new land."

Go away and think about this for about 10 years. The land was not arab ( forget the religion for the moment ) but it was Turkish. Then the Turks were beaten in a war and they had to give up the land to the Europeans who then became the land owners. With me so far Abdul. The Europeans proceeded to partition the land into separate parcels for different groups, and gave the smallest and least significant parcel to the Jews. The arabs received 99% of the land while the Jews and Christians received just 1%. It had nothing to do with population figures or land occupancy but all to do with actual ownership of the territory and International Law. In 1922 the land was passed into Jewish state ownership through the Mandate for Palestine and entered into International law. The UN has no authority in this matter and were in breach of International law when they proposed the Partition plan and implemented it. You would be singing a different tune if it had been arab muslim land given to Jews under some anti Islamic organisations attempts to wipe out the arab muslims.

Now who owns the land you live on, do you or do you just hold title to the land with covenants dictating who owns the mineral rights, passage, access and common use.

Today the banks own most people's homes. Many end up being foreclosed and sold due to non-payment. Not many can or could afford to buy land in cash. In a poor area like what became the mandate, very few could afford to own land and few people would deal with loans. Muslim did not real borrow money or willing to pay interest. Low literacy made paper documents suspect. During the mandate most documents were not in arabic or tri-lingual as people did not know what was written in the other languages. Registration of land required paying taxes and being drafted into military service, of family of age having to serve.
A lot of reason for arabs not owning land.

 

[fanger]

What about the occupied territories?

 

[aris2chat]

What about the occupied territories?

villages and land that were jewish before Jordan annexed the WB? Land owned and cultivated by jews in what is now gaza? Land sold to jews and later declared null under jordanian law so land could be stolen from the new jewish owners?

 

[fanger]

Israel occupied the territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the Six-Day War of 1967, which had been earlier occupied by Jordan and Egypt respectively, and has maintained control of them since.

In 1980, Israel officially absorbed East Jerusalem and considers the whole of Jerusalem to be its capital. The inclusion, though never formally amounting to legal annexation, was condemned internationally[13] and declared "null and void" by the United Nations Security Council.[14][15] The Palestinian National Authority, the United Nations,[16] the international legal and humanitarian bodies[17][18] and the international community [19][20] regard East Jerusalem as part of the West Bank, and consequently a part of the Palestinian territories.
Palestinian territories - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Israeli settlements[1] are Israeli civilian communitieshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement#endnote_desc built on lands occupied by Israel during the 1967 Six-Day War. Such settlements currently exist in the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and in the Golan Heights. Settlements previously existed in the Sinai Peninsula and Gaza Strip until Israel evacuated the Sinai settlements following the 1979 Israel-Egypt peace agreement and from the Gaza Strip in 2005 under Israel's unilateral disengagement plan. Israel dismantled 18 settlements in the Sinai Peninsula in 1982, and all 21 in theGaza Strip and 4 in the West Bank in 2005,[2] but continues to both expand its settlements and settle new areas in the West Bank,[3][4][5][6][7] despite pressure to desist from the international community.

The international community considers the settlements in occupied territory to be illegal,[8] and the United Nations has repeatedly upheld the view that Israel's construction of settlements constitutes a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention.
Israeli settlement - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Phoenall]

Israel occupied the territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the Six-Day War of 1967, which had been earlier occupied by Jordan and Egypt respectively, and has maintained control of them since.

In 1980, Israel officially absorbed East Jerusalem and considers the whole of Jerusalem to be its capital. The inclusion, though never formally amounting to legal annexation, was condemned internationally[13] and declared "null and void" by the United Nations Security Council.[14][15] The Palestinian National Authority, the United Nations,[16] the international legal and humanitarian bodies[17][18] and the international community [19][20] regard East Jerusalem as part of the West Bank, and consequently a part of the Palestinian territories.
Palestinian territories - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Israeli settlements[1] are Israeli civilian communities built on lands occupied by Israel during the 1967 Six-Day War. Such settlements currently exist in the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and in the Golan Heights. Settlements previously existed in the Sinai Peninsula and Gaza Strip until Israel evacuated the Sinai settlements following the 1979 Israel-Egypt peace agreement and from the Gaza Strip in 2005 under Israel's unilateral disengagement plan. Israel dismantled 18 settlements in the Sinai Peninsula in 1982, and all 21 in theGaza Strip and 4 in the West Bank in 2005,[2] but continues to both expand its settlements and settle new areas in the West Bank,[3][4][5][6][7] despite pressure to desist from the international community.

The international community considers the settlements in occupied territory to be illegal,[8] and the United Nations has repeatedly upheld the view that Israel's construction of settlements constitutes a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention.
Israeli settlement - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So there are no settlements outside of the west bank or Golan heights. Thanks for that as it has just destroyed tinny's post

 

[fanger]

East Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Roudy]

Time the Jews take back what clearly belongs to them.

 

[Phoenall]

East Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Didn't the arab muslims STEAL this land in 1949, and then closed it to non muslims against the UN charter and International law.

 

[Roudy]

East Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Didn't the arab muslims STEAL this land in 1949, and then closed it to non muslims against the UN charter and International law.

Fact is Jordan and Egypt occupied the West Bank and Gaza for 20 years after the 1948 war. Not once during this occupation did anyone speak of a Palestine or a Palestinian state. Suddenly after they lost the lands in the 1967 war came this fictional identity and state created by their terrorist leader Arafart.

 

[Phoenall]

East Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Didn't the arab muslims STEAL this land in 1949, and then closed it to non muslims against the UN charter and International law.

Fact is Jordan and Egypt occupied the West Bank and Gaza for 20 years after the 1948 war. Not once during this occupation did anyone speak of a Palestine or a Palestinian state. Suddenly after they lost the lands in the 1967 war came this fictional identity and state created by their terrorist leader Arafart.

And that took another 20 years to achieve, after Jordan killed 50,000 Palestinians when they tried to take over.

 

[fanger]

East Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Didn't the arab muslims STEAL this land in 1949, and then closed it to non muslims against the UN charter and International law.

No, they didn't, thats why you see so many areas occupied by the jewish immigrants