Gosh...!

[Stephanie]

 

[GeeWhiz]

Ignore Stephanie, it isn't human, it's just a computer generated script. There's a site that has better script than the Stephanie script, that site's script comes off as more human too. It's coded in Java. It was fun to play with. But that gets old real quick. Sometimes you want a real human responding back.

Getting back on topic.

According to a Washington Post account of the secret document, the intelligence officer, Col. Pete Devlin, concluded that “there is almost nothing the US military can do to improve the political and social situation there.”

The newspaper quoted an Army officer familiar with the report, which was dated August 16, as saying, “We haven’t been defeated militarily, but we have been defeated politically—and that’s where wars are won and lost.” The Post article continued, “Another person familiar with the report said it describes Anbar as beyond repair; a third said it concludes that the United States has lost in Anbar.”

Junior failed, but in his mind he succeeded because he is not in it for the reason he claims, he is in it because Defense and Oil reaped windfalls from the Iraq war. This is what Eisenhower warned this country about.

Request: can this site come up with a better script than the Stephanie script? I can give you a site address that can show you a better script. Like I said it comes off more human than Stephanie.

 

[archangel]

Whoa fellas, I said show me where I have insulted vets. I didn't say desperately spin my posts.

First of all I want to touch on the issue of the parade OCA brought up.

A couple of months just before I was going to graduate from high school it dawned on me that there was something peculiar about these vet parades, something was missing. I talked it over with a girlfriend of mine and she agreed that I had a valid point.

We went to see this old man whom lived in the hood. This old guy was active in the vet parade and vet get togethers.

Every night this old man would sit in his car all by himself and get drunk. He never drove his car, he would just sit in it and get drunk. If you talked to this guy; all he would do is lament about how he wished he never got married and stayed in the service for life. As far as his wife goes she would go out and make a cuckold out of the old guy everynight.

My girlfriend and I came up to this old man asked him if he would take my idea to the next vet meeting. He asked me what my idea was. So I told him, which is this, In the next parade why don't you guys take a casket drapped with a flag along with you. He refused to bring that idea up to the next vet meeting.

My girlfriend and I showed up in the next vet meeting. I introduced my idea to the meeting. The vets did not appreciate my idea. All I asked was for them to let my dad participate in the parade. I didn't mean in the literal sense, but symbolic, like a cardboard box painted black with a flag drapped over it. The main thing is my dad gets to participate in the parade.

I was torn apart when I left that meeting. Thank God I had my girlfriend there to comfort me.

My girlfriend came up with this idea that I go and talk to the parade organizers and see if they'll let me enter my dad into the parade. All of you here at usmessageboard probably guessed I got turned down.

This is where we get to OCA's bogus claim that he knows what my dad is thinking. Did any of you click on that link I provided? Why not? if you don't know the link I'm talking about it's right here: http://www.sirnosir.com

OCA claims my dad hates me. There comes a time in a man's life when he talks to his parents about important decisions. In my case my mom is the only parent I could talk to. When I a sophomore in high school I talked to mom about joining the service after I get out of high school. The fact that I brought it up crushed her.

When two people are married there is an intimacy they share. My dad wanted my mom to pass something on to me should he never make it back alive. That initimacy is between me and my father and my mother. Because I'm not going to share that initmacy, I point all of you in the direction of the link I provided.

My father would be proud of me because I am not one of those people that live by the moral standard which is "my country right or wrong".
I'm one of those people where if I feel this nation's policy is wrong, then I'm going to say that it is wrong and my saying so doesn't make me any less of an American and it certainly doesn't mean I dis vets.

Those vets in that link felt the war was wrong. My father felt the war was wrong. Unfortunately he realized it only when he got over there. Unfortunately he came back in a box.

OCA, CSM, and P are alive, my dad is not. You want to know how old my dad was when he died? he was 23 years old. Barely out of his childhood.

I almost forgot. Back to the parade. My girlfriend and I realized that nobody wanted my dad in the parade. We came up with a plan. Most of you have seen the platforms they set up, where there is someone speaking through a cheap public address system, announcing the groups that pass by. We positioned ourselves across the street from the platform where the organizers can see us. When it came time for the vets to go by and the announcer tells everyone to stand up and salute the vets, my girlfriend and I remained seated on the curb, because the whole bullshit dissed my dad, because the whole bullshit was too embarrassed, just like the Pentagon and the media is to embarrassed to show all of you Americans on a nightly basis the flag drapped coffins that comes home from Iraq. The Pentagon and the media is the whole bullshit too.

I end this post with a lyric from the Unknown Soldier

Wait until the war is over
And we're both a little older
The unknown soldier
Breakfast where the news is read
Television children fed
Unborn living, living, dead
Bullet strikes the helmet's head
And it's all over
For the unknown soldier
It's all over
For the unknown soldier
Hut
Hut
Hut ho hee up
Hut
Hut
Hut ho hee up
Hut
Hut
Hut ho hee up
Comp'nee
Halt
Preeee-zent!
Arms!
Make a grave for the unknown soldier
Nestled in your hollow shoulder
The unknown soldier
Breakfast where the news is read
Television children fed
Bullet strikes the helmet's head
And, it's all over
The war is over
It's all over
The war is over
Well, all over, baby
All over, baby
Oh, over, yeah
All over, baby
Wooooo, hah-hah
All over
All over, baby
Oh, woa-yeah
All over
All over
Heeeeyyyy

CSM, OCA and P fuck off.

list of FO..!

This would have been a heart warming story had it not been so political...and how do you know your Dad was against the VN war after he got there after all you never met him or talked to him...just your grieving mother..
To be blunt I believe you watch way too many Hollywood versions of how VN vets acted...Like the movies always portray them as never getting close to their comrades in arms...this is plain and simple BS...Many times when friends were hit and you asked them what could you do for them...they would smile(even in pain) and say tell Mom & Dad and sis and bro and GF I love em' then shout...and get that sob who did this to me!


side note: as for your choice in songs...gag me with a spoon!...try "Ballad of the Green Berets" Barry Sadler...written and sung by one....!


Then again..second thoughts here...I think you watch way too many "Simpsons" cartoons...this little diatribe smacks of a re-run!

 

[Abbey Normal]

Hmmm...being the subject of the aforemetnioned insult to vets I draw your attention to the following:

Yet it's okay for you to whore out 911 isn't it America? make a market out of it, make a few bucks from it, and whore it out even more just so you can feed that military industrial complex Eisenhower warned this country about. Feed it with human lives as if you even know what a human life is. Whore it out, so that sleaze of a political party you belong to can squeeze a few votes out of the citizens in this country.

America I'm not conned by your perfume. Your perfume called democracy. America you are a perfumed scorpion. Your sting kills. You're killing for oil just so you can drive that big SUV while eating a greasy cheeseburger so you can later die of clogged arties and that is a piss poor reason for people around the world to die.

If you think for one minute that the two paragraphs above are not a direct insult to vets then it is obvious that yo have never been a vet. Soldiers are instruments of national policy, that is true. However, they are not whores, the vast majority know far better the value of human life than non vets. I am not sleazy because I belong to a particular party ( the same party that the majority of active duty military belongs to); I do not and have not killed for oil. There is and was no doubt in my mind that the above was intended as an insult to me personally and to vets in general.

That being said, I do not care if it is a bannable offense on this board. I will not stand by while someone who has never served tries to impugn the character of those who have served honorably. I will not stand by while someone who has not got the intestinal fortitude to defend this country and its citizens tries to spread lies and vitrol against those who do.

As for the rest of this thread, I have stated many times that being a vet bestows no special status when it comes to political opinions. It can and does deserve a good amount of respect and consideration when a vet expresses an opinion on military operations, how the young men and women of our military are likely to react or even in general how they think and feel. That does not mean that a vet has all knowledge or cannot be mistaken, but in those areas, a vet is far more likely to be accurate than some snot nosed punk who was abused as a child by an alcoholic mother and who's only exposure to vets is through anti war propaganda.

Just my opinion.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CSM again.

I know you know this, but just to reiterate, we all know that you do not have to defend yourself against such garbage. But thanks for taking the time to do it so well nonetheless.

 

[Abbey Normal]

My girlfriend and I showed up in the next vet meeting. I introduced my idea to the meeting. The vets did not appreciate my idea. All I asked was for them to let my dad participate in the parade.didn't mean in the literal sense, but symbolic, like a cardboard box painted black with a flag drapped over it. main thing is my dad gets to participate in the parade.

There is a place where your father is honored and included. It is called a war memorial, and they are everywhere. I suggest that if you really want to honor your father's memory, you visit one and pay your respects. I have, and I don't even have a loved-one who died in a war.

 

[Mr. P]

There is a place where your father is honored and included. It is called a war memorial, and they are everywhere. I suggest that if you really want to honor your father's memory, you visit one and pay your respects. I have, and I don't even have a loved-one who died in a war.

And lets not forget Memorial Day.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

My girlfriend and I came up to this old man asked him if he would take my idea to the next vet meeting. He asked me what my idea was. So I told him, which is this, In the next parade why don't you guys take a casket drapped with a flag along with you. He refused to bring that idea up to the next vet meeting.

My girlfriend and I showed up in the next vet meeting. I introduced my idea to the meeting. The vets did not appreciate my idea. All I asked was for them to let my dad participate in the parade. I didn't mean in the literal sense, but symbolic, like a cardboard box painted black with a flag drapped over it. The main thing is my dad gets to participate in the parade.

When have you ever seen a casket in a parade, symbollic or otherwise? Parades are not funeral processions.

Why not another way of your dad participating? Why not a symbollic arm band? The only thing you could come up with was a symbollic casket?

 

[Abbey Normal]

When have you ever seen a casket in a parade, symbollic or otherwise? Parades are not funeral processions.

Why not another way of your dad participating? Why not a symbollic arm band? The only thing you could come up with was a symbollic casket?

That wouldn't have been sufficiently dramatic.

 

[OCA]

When have you ever seen a casket in a parade, symbollic or otherwise? Parades are not funeral processions.

Why not another way of your dad participating? Why not a symbollic arm band? The only thing you could come up with was a symbollic casket?

Painted black nonetheless.

Whiz you are a piece of shit, how dare you politicize your father's death. God that is fucking sick! You got issues!

 

[musicman]

That wouldn't have been sufficiently dramatic.

Or ostentatious. This was all about GeeWhiz, you see - not his dad.

 

[OCA]

That wouldn't have been sufficiently dramatic.

Exactly.

Whiz could have given two shits less about his father being included in a parade it was all about expressing his political views, in other words whoring out his father to make a twisted point.

What pathetic excuse for a son.

 

[Mr. P]

That wouldn't have been sufficiently dramatic.

There are trolls (wackos) everywhere, they are rejected outside of cyber space too.

 

[Mr. P]

Or ostentatious. This was all about GeeWhiz, you see - not his dad.

Exactly!

 

[archangel]

But y'all missed the innuendo of gee wizzies comment...this was taken directly from a "Simpsons" cartoon several episodes ago...I am guilty of missing this the first time around...and spilled my guts on a fraud!...end of story! <<<< on him!

 

[The ClayTaurus]

But y'all missed the innuendo of gee wizzies comment...this was taken directly from a "Simpsons" cartoon several episodes ago...I am guilty of missing this the first time around...and spilled my guts on a fraud!...end of story! <<<< on him!

Care to clue the rest of us in?

 

[archangel]

Care to clue the rest of us in?

Not a big fan of the 'Simpsons' but hey I am a G/pa and have to watch what the kids view from time to time...and 'Marge'...did the same thing on one of the episodes awhile back...had to expalin to the kids that this was just a 'Cartoon' not real life...need I say more?:rotflmao:

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Not a big fan of the 'Simpsons' but hey I am a G/pa and have to watch what the kids view from time to time...and 'Marge'...did the same thing on one of the episodes awhile back...had to expalin to the kids that this was just a 'Cartoon' not real life...need I say more?:rotflmao:

What did G-wiz do that was from the Simpsons? I'm so so confused.

 

[archangel]

What did G-wiz do that was from the Simpsons? I'm so so confused.

The Simpsons cartoon did an exact episode of what 'Gee Wiz'...related to on the casket of the Dad in the veterans parade..it was a wash for all vets...I like cartoons as long as they don't get too political and try to brainwash my kids...I have no way to set this episode on line in here...ask others who may have also seen this rediculous episode...what else can I say...go out and live it then get back to Me!

 

[The ClayTaurus]

The Simpsons cartoon did an exact episode of what 'Gee Wiz'...related to on the casket of the Dad in the veterans parade..it was a wash for all vets...I like cartoons as long as they don't get too political and try to brainwash my kids...I have no way to set this episode on line in here...ask others who may have also seen this rediculous episode...what else can I say...go out and live it then get back to Me!

That's all I wanted to know. I've never seen the episode where they parade a casket. I'll have to keep an eye out for it. Thanks.

 

[musicman]

I just flashed on something: "The Simpsons" sounds an awful lot like, "The Symptoms". It could certainly apply; a dark comment on what our culture has wrought, perhaps?