GOP strategy - disrupted Dem town hall meetings

[RadiomanATL]

HEREIN lies your gross ignorance...there is a VAST difference between constructive debate; challenging a representative on ISSUES and POLICY vs. busing in people trained and coached for the SOLE purpose of DISRUPTING a town hall meeting so no one can have a civil debate...

If the policies can't stand the debate, then they aren't worth having.

I don't think the disruptor's are shouting out the recipe to Mrs Butterworths famous syrup. I got a feeling that it's about the issue. Just a hunch. And if the politicians can't stand it, well thats just too f'ing bad.

WHAT part of:
– Be Disruptive Early And Often: “

– Try To “Rattle Him,” Not Have An Intelligent Debate:

do you need an explanation on???

Oh yeah. BTW, those little quotes in red were a characterization of the memo by the leftist site thinkprogress. They weren't part of the memo itself. The memo actually states:

Questions should be prepared. Most pols are pros at deflecting off-the-cuff
questions. The questions should contain facts and numbers (which are
embarrassing and damning to the Rep and his voting record).

You need to rock-the-boat early in the Rep's presentation, Watch for an
opportunity to yell out and challenge the Rep's statements early. If he blames
Bush for something or offers other excuses -- call him on it, yell back and have
someone else tallow-up with a shout-out. Don't carryon and make a scene - just
short intermittent shout outs.

When the formal Q&A session begins get all your hands up and keep them up ..
be persistent throughout the entire session. Keep body language neutral and look
positive to improve chances of being selected. When called on, ask a specific
prepared question that puts the onus on him to answer.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with any of this. Thinkprogress was just trying to slander the oppositions attempt at a national debate. Too bad their characterization is completely wrong to anyone who actually reads the memo.

THIS part...if people are bused in, HOW are they part of that TOWN??????????????

Townhall is a format. Not necessarily specific to that town. The issues that are being debated are national ones. Too bad if the politicians can't stand the debate.

 

[Bfgrn]

The strange thing is that this was a foundation of thought when rebelling against the Brits.

So, Obama and the Democrats are the ENEMY? What next, killings ???

 

[Bfgrn]

If the policies can't stand the debate, then they aren't worth having.

I don't think the disruptor's are shouting out the recipe to Mrs Butterworths famous syrup. I got a feeling that it's about the issue. Just a hunch. And if the politicians can't stand it, well thats just too f'ing bad.

WHAT part of:
– Be Disruptive Early And Often: “

– Try To “Rattle Him,” Not Have An Intelligent Debate:

do you need an explanation on???

Oh yeah. BTW, those little quotes in red were a characterization of the memo by the leftist site thinkprogress. They weren't part of the memo itself. The memo actually states:

When the formal Q&A session begins get all your hands up and keep them up ..
be persistent throughout the entire session. Keep body language neutral and look
positive to improve chances of being selected. When called on, ask a specific
prepared question that puts the onus on him to answer.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with any of this. Thinkprogress was just trying to slander the oppositions attempt at a national debate. Too bad their characterization is completely wrong to anyone who actually reads the memo.

THIS part...if people are bused in, HOW are they part of that TOWN??????????????

Townhall is a format. Not necessarily specific to that town. The issues that are being debated are national ones. Too bad if the politicians can't stand the debate.

NO, the townhall is for CONSTITUENTS of THAT representative to debate and discuss issues and policies that are SPECIFIC to THAT district...that is WHY we have so many House members...

You really need a course in CIVICS...

 

[sarahgop]

its time we adopt the union goon tactics. lets do like liberals do.

 

[WillowTree]

The strange thing is that this was a foundation of thought when rebelling against the Brits.

So, Obama and the Democrats are the ENEMY? What next, killings ???

drama queen!

 

[Bfgrn]

The strange thing is that this was a foundation of thought when rebelling against the Brits.

So, Obama and the Democrats are the ENEMY? What next, killings ???

drama queen!

More Far-Right Violence? Anti-Immigrant Suspects In Arizona Killing Have Ties To White Supremacists

By Zachary Roth - June 16, 2009, 12:48PM

The recent murders of a Kansas doctor who performed late-term abortions and of a guard at the National Holocaust Museum have stoked fears of a rise in right-wing extremist violence -- just as that much-maligned DHS report predicted. And now it looks like we've got another one to add to the list...

According to local law enforcement, three people posing as police officers forced their way into the home of Raul Flores in Arivaca, Arizona, about 10 miles from the Mexican border, on May 30. They shot and killed Flores and his nine-year-old daughter, and wounded Flores' wife. The three, Shawna Forde, Jason Bush, and Albert Gaxiola, were arrested and charged last Thursday and Friday.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/more_rightwing_violence_anti-immigrant_suspects_in_1.php

 

[WillowTree]

So, Obama and the Democrats are the ENEMY? What next, killings ???

drama queen!

More Far-Right Violence? Anti-Immigrant Suspects In Arizona Killing Have Ties To White Supremacists

By Zachary Roth - June 16, 2009, 12:48PM

The recent murders of a Kansas doctor who performed late-term abortions and of a guard at the National Holocaust Museum have stoked fears of a rise in right-wing extremist violence -- just as that much-maligned DHS report predicted. And now it looks like we've got another one to add to the list...

According to local law enforcement, three people posing as police officers forced their way into the home of Raul Flores in Arivaca, Arizona, about 10 miles from the Mexican border, on May 30. They shot and killed Flores and his nine-year-old daughter, and wounded Flores' wife. The three, Shawna Forde, Jason Bush, and Albert Gaxiola, were arrested and charged last Thursday and Friday.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/more_rightwing_violence_anti-immigrant_suspects_in_1.php

funny you didn't mention the black fellow,, recently converted to Islam, who drove by and shot two US soldiers,( just a day after the abortion dr. shooting) , for reasons of hate and religion,, imagine that?? whydonchya? I mock you and your faux outrage! drama queen.

 

[RadiomanATL]

NO, the townhall is for CONSTITUENTS of THAT representative to debate and discuss issues and policies that are SPECIFIC to THAT district...that is WHY we have so many House members...

You really need a course in CIVICS...

...and from the actual memo itself:

Alert people in the district to watch for the first announcement of a TownHall as there may be as little as a week's notice. Have a central person advised so that the
alert can be distributed to as many potential supporters as possible.

No where in the memo does it say busing people in from different districts for the townhalls.

Tired of failing yet?

 

[Bfgrn]

drama queen!

More Far-Right Violence? Anti-Immigrant Suspects In Arizona Killing Have Ties To White Supremacists

By Zachary Roth - June 16, 2009, 12:48PM

The recent murders of a Kansas doctor who performed late-term abortions and of a guard at the National Holocaust Museum have stoked fears of a rise in right-wing extremist violence -- just as that much-maligned DHS report predicted. And now it looks like we've got another one to add to the list...

According to local law enforcement, three people posing as police officers forced their way into the home of Raul Flores in Arivaca, Arizona, about 10 miles from the Mexican border, on May 30. They shot and killed Flores and his nine-year-old daughter, and wounded Flores' wife. The three, Shawna Forde, Jason Bush, and Albert Gaxiola, were arrested and charged last Thursday and Friday.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/more_rightwing_violence_anti-immigrant_suspects_in_1.php

funny you didn't mention the black fellow,, recently converted to Islam, who drove by and shot two US soldiers,, for reasons of hate and religion,, imagine that?? whydonchya? I mock you and your faux outrage! drama queen.

Oh, I forgot another right wing nut...sorry...

 

[ba1614]

So, Obama and the Democrats are the ENEMY? What next, killings ???

drama queen!

More Far-Right Violence? Anti-Immigrant Suspects In Arizona Killing Have Ties To White Supremacists

By Zachary Roth - June 16, 2009, 12:48PM

The recent murders of a Kansas doctor who performed late-term abortions and of a guard at the National Holocaust Museum have stoked fears of a rise in right-wing extremist violence -- just as that much-maligned DHS report predicted. And now it looks like we've got another one to add to the list...

According to local law enforcement, three people posing as police officers forced their way into the home of Raul Flores in Arivaca, Arizona, about 10 miles from the Mexican border, on May 30. They shot and killed Flores and his nine-year-old daughter, and wounded Flores' wife. The three, Shawna Forde, Jason Bush, and Albert Gaxiola, were arrested and charged last Thursday and Friday.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/more_rightwing_violence_anti-immigrant_suspects_in_1.php

That's the exact kind of deflection that get people so wound up at these "town hall" meetings. Making cracks about the right attacking the left while attacking the right at the same time.

 

[WillowTree]

More Far-Right Violence? Anti-Immigrant Suspects In Arizona Killing Have Ties To White Supremacists

By Zachary Roth - June 16, 2009, 12:48PM

The recent murders of a Kansas doctor who performed late-term abortions and of a guard at the National Holocaust Museum have stoked fears of a rise in right-wing extremist violence -- just as that much-maligned DHS report predicted. And now it looks like we've got another one to add to the list...

According to local law enforcement, three people posing as police officers forced their way into the home of Raul Flores in Arivaca, Arizona, about 10 miles from the Mexican border, on May 30. They shot and killed Flores and his nine-year-old daughter, and wounded Flores' wife. The three, Shawna Forde, Jason Bush, and Albert Gaxiola, were arrested and charged last Thursday and Friday.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/more_rightwing_violence_anti-immigrant_suspects_in_1.php

funny you didn't mention the black fellow,, recently converted to Islam, who drove by and shot two US soldiers,, for reasons of hate and religion,, imagine that?? whydonchya? I mock you and your faux outrage! drama queen.

Oh, I forgot another right wing nut...sorry...

Liar! and,,, drama queen!

 

[Bfgrn]

NO, the townhall is for CONSTITUENTS of THAT representative to debate and discuss issues and policies that are SPECIFIC to THAT district...that is WHY we have so many House members...

You really need a course in CIVICS...

...and from the actual memo itself:

Alert people in the district to watch for the first announcement of a TownHall as there may be as little as a week's notice. Have a central person advised so that the
alert can be distributed to as many potential supporters as possible.

No where in the memo does it say busing people in from different districts for the townhalls.

Tired of failing yet?

Oh, so YOU are declaring victory huh? WOW, what a courageous act...

Let's recap PEA brain...

We have a group of outsiders that are trained to disrupt town hall meetings held by Democratic House members; which is a way for citizens of THAT district to debate, discuss and ask questions of THEIR district representative on issue that effect THEIR district. These outsiders are trained TO:

– Artificially Inflate Your Numbers:

– Be Disruptive Early And Often:

– Try To “Rattle Him,” Not Have An Intelligent Debate:

WHO is behind this effort to disrupt these town hall meetings? Texas Republican Congressman Pete Sessions...

HIS strategy...

"Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban, and that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with."

You right wing pea brains defend WAR, TORTURE and now TERRORISM...

But Democrats are the "radicals"...

YOU are a MORON...

 

[Bfgrn]

drama queen!

More Far-Right Violence? Anti-Immigrant Suspects In Arizona Killing Have Ties To White Supremacists

By Zachary Roth - June 16, 2009, 12:48PM

The recent murders of a Kansas doctor who performed late-term abortions and of a guard at the National Holocaust Museum have stoked fears of a rise in right-wing extremist violence -- just as that much-maligned DHS report predicted. And now it looks like we've got another one to add to the list...

According to local law enforcement, three people posing as police officers forced their way into the home of Raul Flores in Arivaca, Arizona, about 10 miles from the Mexican border, on May 30. They shot and killed Flores and his nine-year-old daughter, and wounded Flores' wife. The three, Shawna Forde, Jason Bush, and Albert Gaxiola, were arrested and charged last Thursday and Friday.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/more_rightwing_violence_anti-immigrant_suspects_in_1.php

That's the exact kind of deflection that get people so wound up at these "town hall" meetings. Making cracks about the right attacking the left while attacking the right at the same time.

I don't see leftist KILLING rightists...

 

[RadiomanATL]

Oh, so YOU are declaring victory huh? WOW, what a courageous act...

Let's recap PEA brain...

We have a group of outsiders that are trained to disrupt town hall meetings held by Democratic House members; which is a way for citizens of THAT district to debate, discuss and ask questions of THEIR district representative on issue that effect THEIR district. These outsiders are trained TO:

– Artificially Inflate Your Numbers:

– Be Disruptive Early And Often:

– Try To “Rattle Him,” Not Have An Intelligent Debate:

WHO is behind this effort to disrupt these town hall meetings? Texas Republican Congressman Pete Sessions...

HIS strategy...

"Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban, and that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with."

You right wing pea brains defend WAR, TORTURE and now TERRORISM...

But Democrats are the "radicals"...

YOU are a MORON...

Wow, let's count the lies here:

We have a group of outsiders

Lie #1. Nowhere in the memo does it say anything about outsiders. As a matter of fact the memo outlines how people within the district should respond and organize when notice of a future townhall is posted.

– Artificially Inflate Your Numbers:

Lie #2. The memo only says that the members need to spread out among the hall and sit up front. This is in no way "artificially inflating numbers".

– Be Disruptive Early And Often:

Lie #3. The memo clearly states that the members should not carry on and make a scene.

– Try To “Rattle Him,” Not Have An Intelligent Debate:

Lie #4. The memo clearly states that the members need to be prepared with specific questions pertaining to the issue and also be prepared with a pointed and direct follow up question. This is not, as you characterize, "not having an intelligent debate". If the representative cannot answer a question which pertains to the debate, and this rattles him, well then too damn bad.


You fail. Utterly and completely. You are only embarrassing yourself. Better quit while you are ahead.

 

[del]

So, Obama and the Democrats are the ENEMY? What next, killings ???

drama queen!

More Far-Right Violence? Anti-Immigrant Suspects In Arizona Killing Have Ties To White Supremacists

By Zachary Roth - June 16, 2009, 12:48PM

The recent murders of a Kansas doctor who performed late-term abortions and of a guard at the National Holocaust Museum have stoked fears of a rise in right-wing extremist violence -- just as that much-maligned DHS report predicted. And now it looks like we've got another one to add to the list...

According to local law enforcement, three people posing as police officers forced their way into the home of Raul Flores in Arivaca, Arizona, about 10 miles from the Mexican border, on May 30. They shot and killed Flores and his nine-year-old daughter, and wounded Flores' wife. The three, Shawna Forde, Jason Bush, and Albert Gaxiola, were arrested and charged last Thursday and Friday.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/more_rightwing_violence_anti-immigrant_suspects_in_1.php

nice deflection. well, not really.

so far we've got informed citizens going to town hall meetings and questioning their elected reps.

ooooooooh, those evil right wing, statist, pea brains!

 

[Old Rocks]

Works both ways, peope. Both ways

 

[Harry Dresden]

so we got Chrissies life partner Sniveling again....is there a thread this meatball doesnt cry about something.....even his fellow lib Rocks said it goes both ways,and Willow showed some examples....yet the wimp still cries about it.....GET A SET Bfg....

 

[Old Rocks]

Yep, and next year, I intend to be one of those that are making this work. I will be moving into the only district represented by a Republican in Oregon. Gonna be fun.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Yep, and next year, I intend to be one of those that are making this work. I will be moving into the only district represented by a Republican in Oregon. Gonna be fun.

Go fer it.

 

[Bfgrn]

Oh, so YOU are declaring victory huh? WOW, what a courageous act...

Let's recap PEA brain...

We have a group of outsiders that are trained to disrupt town hall meetings held by Democratic House members; which is a way for citizens of THAT district to debate, discuss and ask questions of THEIR district representative on issue that effect THEIR district. These outsiders are trained TO:

– Artificially Inflate Your Numbers:

– Be Disruptive Early And Often:

– Try To “Rattle Him,” Not Have An Intelligent Debate:

WHO is behind this effort to disrupt these town hall meetings? Texas Republican Congressman Pete Sessions...

HIS strategy...

"Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban, and that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with."

You right wing pea brains defend WAR, TORTURE and now TERRORISM...

But Democrats are the "radicals"...

YOU are a MORON...

Wow, let's count the lies here:

We have a group of outsiders

Lie #1. Nowhere in the memo does it say anything about outsiders. As a matter of fact the memo outlines how people within the district should respond and organize when notice of a future townhall is posted.



Lie #2. The memo only says that the members need to spread out among the hall and sit up front. This is in no way "artificially inflating numbers".

– Be Disruptive Early And Often:

Lie #3. The memo clearly states that the members should not carry on and make a scene.

– Try To “Rattle Him,” Not Have An Intelligent Debate:

Lie #4. The memo clearly states that the members need to be prepared with specific questions pertaining to the issue and also be prepared with a pointed and direct follow up question. This is not, as you characterize, "not having an intelligent debate". If the representative cannot answer a question which pertains to the debate, and this rattles him, well then too damn bad.


You fail. Utterly and completely. You are only embarrassing yourself. Better quit while you are ahead.

I guess you missed THIS part of the "memo"

We will be travelling the state to provide a similar reality-check for all five of the Reps, and of course Chris Dodd.