"GOP No Longer a 'Normal' Party" - David Brooks

[Stephanie]

A rational person would acknowledge that the fastest way to fix a financial issue is to BOTH cut spending and increase revenue.

WE THE PEOPLE are TAXED ENOUGH. let the Obama CUT his administrations salaries for a start, then we might take him and the Commie party serious.

 

[RDD_1210]

A rational person would acknowledge that the fastest way to fix a financial issue is to BOTH cut spending and increase revenue.

WE THE PEOPLE are TAXED ENOUGH. let the Obama CUT his administrations salaries for a start, then we might take him and the Commie party serious.

You're cute.

 

[Stephanie]

A rational person would acknowledge that the fastest way to fix a financial issue is to BOTH cut spending and increase revenue.

WE THE PEOPLE are TAXED ENOUGH. let the Obama CUT his administrations salaries for a start, then we might take him and the Commie party serious.

You're cute.

so are you. as I said, Cut this damn Government and LEAVE US PEOPLE alone. This bullshit of RAISING REVENUE, The pretty sounding way of saying, raising our taxes. If the Obama and his commie administration was SERIOUS about ANY OF THIS, they would of done it BEFORE NOW.

DON'T FALL FOR IT FOLKS.

 

[xsited1]

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Thoughts?

 

[Sallow]

WE THE PEOPLE are TAXED ENOUGH. let the Obama CUT his administrations salaries for a start, then we might take him and the Commie party serious.

You're cute.

so are you. as I said, Cut this damn Government and LEAVE US PEOPLE alone. This bullshit of RAISING REVENUE, The pretty sounding way of saying, raising our taxes.

DON'T FALL FOR IT FOLKS.

Plenty of places around the world with weak..and very poor governments that "leave people alone". Have you tried visiting even one of them?

I have.

They suck.

 

[RDD_1210]

WE THE PEOPLE are TAXED ENOUGH. let the Obama CUT his administrations salaries for a start, then we might take him and the Commie party serious.

You're cute.

so are you. as I said, Cut this damn Government and LEAVE US PEOPLE alone. This bullshit of RAISING REVENUE, The pretty sounding way of saying, raising our taxes.

DON'T FALL FOR IT FOLKS.

Like I said...a rational person would realize that compromise involves doing both.

 

[Stephanie]

You're cute.

so are you. as I said, Cut this damn Government and LEAVE US PEOPLE alone. This bullshit of RAISING REVENUE, The pretty sounding way of saying, raising our taxes.

DON'T FALL FOR IT FOLKS.

Like I said...a rational person would realize that compromise involves doing both.

Well, too bad a lot of the people DON'T agree with you.

 

[Sallow]

so are you. as I said, Cut this damn Government and LEAVE US PEOPLE alone. This bullshit of RAISING REVENUE, The pretty sounding way of saying, raising our taxes.

DON'T FALL FOR IT FOLKS.

Like I said...a rational person would realize that compromise involves doing both.

Well, too bad a lot of the people DON'T agree with you.

Yes..but a majority of people in this country DON'T agree with you.

But we are seeing something relatively new in this country. Minority rule. That happened in France prior to the French Revolution. Didn't turn out so well for the minority.

 

[RDD_1210]

so are you. as I said, Cut this damn Government and LEAVE US PEOPLE alone. This bullshit of RAISING REVENUE, The pretty sounding way of saying, raising our taxes.

DON'T FALL FOR IT FOLKS.

Like I said...a rational person would realize that compromise involves doing both.

Well, too bad a lot of the people DON'T agree with you.

I know. I've already stated there are a lot of people who aren't rational and are only concerned about themselves and not the country.

 

[American Horse]

Thoughts?

I paraphrase Einstein: It's a sign of insanity to keep doing the same old thing and expect different results; increasing taxes will enable more spending.

 

[cutter]

Are Obama, Reed, Pelosi the new normal? Is it normal to pass bills before you know what's in them? The democrats must be grading on a curve again because NORMAL ain't what it used to be.

 

[Stephanie]

Like I said...a rational person would realize that compromise involves doing both.

Well, too bad a lot of the people DON'T agree with you.

Yes..but a majority of people in this country DON'T agree with you.

But we are seeing something relatively new in this country. Minority rule. That happened in France prior to the French Revolution. Didn't turn out so well for the minority.

LOL, you Liberals would know all about "minority rule". take the homosexual issue for starters and abortion, etc etc.

 

[peach174]

Has the Democrats said where the extra taxes will go to? No
None of them has said one word about where the increase in taxes will be spent.
They want to raise 400 billion over 10 years. That comes to 40 Billion extra taxes per year.
Washington is spending 4.1 Billion every day.40 Billion extra each year covers about one month in spending, and Dem's won't put it towards the deficit.
50% of small business are in the top 2%. If Dem's raise their taxes they will not be able to higher any new employees and maybe they will have to lay off some in order to pay for the tax increase.
This will hurt small businesses especially at this time in a slow economy.
It is the Dem's who are being unreasonable.
If you taxed the top 2% at 100% for next year that only covers a little less than 10 days in Washington spending.
Government must be cut and more taxes is not going to help.

 

[RDD_1210]

Has the Democrats said where the extra taxes will go to? No
None of them has said one word about where the increase in taxes will be spent.
They want to raise 400 billion over 10 years. That comes to 40 Billion extra taxes per year.
Washington is spending 4.1 Billion every day.40 Billion extra each year covers about one month in spending, and Dem's won't put it towards the deficit.
50% of small business are in the top 2%. If Dem's raise their taxes they will not be able to higher any new employees and maybe they will have to lay off some in order to pay for the tax increase.
This will hurt small businesses especially at this time in a slow economy.
It is the Dem's who are being unreasonable.
If you taxed the top 2% at 100% for next year that only covers a little less than 10 days in Washington spending.
Government must be cut and more taxes is not going to help.

What exactly does this mean? Where do you get your information from?

 

[uscitizen]

Thoughts?

I paraphrase Einstein: It's a sign of insanity to keep doing the same old thing and expect different results; increasing taxes will enable more spending.

And that works both ways. Cutting taxes on the wealthy does not seem to create many jobs either.
And deregulating the banking industry worked out so well.

 

[Truthmatters]

... many important Democrats are open to a truly large budget deal. President Obama has a strong incentive to reach a deal so he can campaign in 2012 as a moderate. The Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, has talked about supporting a debt reduction measure of $3 trillion or even $4 trillion if the Republicans meet him part way. There are Democrats in the White House and elsewhere who would be willing to accept Medicare cuts if the Republicans would be willing to increase revenues.

If the Republican Party were a normal party, it would take advantage of this amazing moment. It is being offered the deal of the century: trillions of dollars in spending cuts in exchange for a few hundred billion dollars of revenue increases.

A normal Republican Party would seize the opportunity to put a long-term limit on the growth of government. It would seize the opportunity to put the country on a sound fiscal footing. It would seize the opportunity to do these things without putting any real crimp in economic growth.

The party is not being asked to raise marginal tax rates in a way that might pervert incentives. On the contrary, Republicans are merely being asked to close loopholes and eliminate tax expenditures that are themselves distortionary. ...

But we can have no confidence that the Republicans will seize this opportunity. That’s because the Republican Party may no longer be a normal party. Over the past few years, it has been infected by a faction that is more of a psychological protest than a practical, governing alternative.

The members of this movement do not accept the logic of compromise, no matter how sweet the terms. If you ask them to raise taxes by an inch in order to cut government by a foot, they will say no. If you ask them to raise taxes by an inch to cut government by a yard, they will still say no.

The members of this movement do not accept the legitimacy of scholars and intellectual authorities. A thousand impartial experts may tell them that a default on the debt would have calamitous effects, far worse than raising tax revenues a bit. But the members of this movement refuse to believe it.

The members of this movement have no sense of moral decency. A nation makes a sacred pledge to pay the money back when it borrows money. But the members of this movement talk blandly of default and are willing to stain their nation’s honor.

The members of this movement have no economic theory worthy of the name. Economists have identified many factors that contribute to economic growth, ranging from the productivity of the work force to the share of private savings that is available for private investment. Tax levels matter, but they are far from the only or even the most important factor.

But to members of this movement, tax levels are everything. Members of this tendency have taken a small piece of economic policy and turned it into a sacred fixation. They are willing to cut education and research to preserve tax expenditures. Manufacturing employment is cratering even as output rises, but members of this movement somehow believe such problems can be addressed so long as they continue to worship their idol. ...

If the debt ceiling talks fail, independent voters will see that Democrats were willing to compromise but Republicans were not. If responsible Republicans don’t take control, independents will conclude that Republican fanaticism caused this default. They will conclude that Republicans are not fit to govern.

And they will be right.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/opinion/05brooks.html?_r=4&ref=davidbrooks

Thoughts?

They courted this faction for years and now this faction owns them.

Now they can not win with them and can not win without them.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Progressive Definition of Normal: a Failed Leader runs up a $1.6 Trillion deficit, believing bank ATM's kicked your economy ass and thinking 9+% unemployment is funny because jobs weren't "Shovel ready"

“We own the economy” -- DNC

 

[Sallow]

Well, too bad a lot of the people DON'T agree with you.

Yes..but a majority of people in this country DON'T agree with you.

But we are seeing something relatively new in this country. Minority rule. That happened in France prior to the French Revolution. Didn't turn out so well for the minority.

LOL, you Liberals would know all about "minority rule". take the homosexual issue for starters and abortion, etc etc.

None of that is the result of "minority" rule.

 

[Sallow]

Progressive Definition of Normal: a Failed Leader runs up a $1.6 Trillion deficit, believing bank ATM's kicked your economy ass and thinking 9+% unemployment is funny because jobs weren't "Shovel ready"

“We own the economy” -- DNC

57 States!

 

[Stephanie]

Yes..but a majority of people in this country DON'T agree with you.

But we are seeing something relatively new in this country. Minority rule. That happened in France prior to the French Revolution. Didn't turn out so well for the minority.

LOL, you Liberals would know all about "minority rule". take the homosexual issue for starters and abortion, etc etc.

None of that is the result of "minority" rule.

umm humm.