Global Warming lawsuits will hammer state budgets!

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    Global warming lawsuit could hammer OK, other states

    The important thing to remember with this story is that advocates of doing something about global warming never factor in the costs. To them costs do not exist.

    Unfortunately in the real world they do exist. In States like New York California and Oklahoma where these lawsuits are frequent you can be 100% certain of one thing: the $$ earmark to go for repair of roads and Public Safety will not be going there. Those dollars will be going to pay off these lawsuits.

    What I suggest is if you live in these states like I do, put aside plenty of money for extra wheels for your car and extra tires as well. Those Volkswagen Beetle sized potholes are not going anywhere soon. Increased public safety? Sorry... not in the dangerous cities of your states s0ns. Not happening for you....."fuck you..... we have to fight global warming!!"

    Necessary trade-offs.... a concept not at all understood by the climate crusaders.:backpedal:
     
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    Mann was doing this crap 20 years ago and today the courts throw these fishing expeditions out.. When you can not prove causation linkage.. things die..
     
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    These people have one goal....fuck up America as we knew it!
     
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    Not mention actual global warming that will hammer our economies. Like say, all those pesky Pine beetles or say the fact we get less snow or rain in Colorado. Global warming, it's a fact. Look at ski area profits, they are sinking every year.
     
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    Why would actual global warming hammer our economies?

    I don't see evidence that this will be a huge problem, unless we see some substantial increase in temp. If anything it may open up more land to be farm-able. If it rains more in some areas, that would make it easier to irrigate.
     
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    People like you two have already fucked this nation up. You are the people that create pollution, and say it doesn't matter. You are the people that try to punish scientists for publishing the results of their studies. In other words, you two are really crap individuals that are completely ignorant of this subject that you post so much on. And global warming is already fucking up state budgets.

    Climate change damages to Alaska public infrastructure and the economics of proactive adaptation

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    Climate change in the circumpolar region is causing dramatic environmental change that is increasing the vulnerability of infrastructure. We quantified the economic impacts of climate change on Alaska public infrastructure under relatively high and low climate forcing scenarios [representative concentration pathway 8.5 (RCP8.5) and RCP4.5] using an infrastructure model modified to account for unique climate impacts at northern latitudes, including near-surface permafrost thaw. Additionally, we evaluated how proactive adaptation influenced economic impacts on select infrastructure types and developed first-order estimates of potential land losses associated with coastal erosion and lengthening of the coastal ice-free season for 12 communities. Cumulative estimated expenses from climate-related damage to infrastructure without adaptation measures (hereafter damages) from 2015 to 2099 totaled $5.5 billion (2015 dollars, 3% discount) for RCP8.5 and $4.2 billion for RCP4.5, suggesting that reducing greenhouse gas emissions could lessen damages by $1.3 billion this century. The distribution of damages varied across the state, with the largest damages projected for the interior and southcentral Alaska. The largest source of damages was road flooding caused by increased precipitation followed by damages to buildings associated with near-surface permafrost thaw. Smaller damages were observed for airports, railroads, and pipelines. Proactive adaptation reduced total projected cumulative expenditures to $2.9 billion for RCP8.5 and $2.3 billion for RCP4.5. For road flooding, adaptation provided an annual savings of 80–100% across four study eras. For nearly all infrastructure types and time periods evaluated, damages and adaptation costs were larger for RCP8.5 than RCP4.5. Estimated coastal erosion losses were also larger for RCP8.5.
     
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    Sea Level Rise Could Cost Florida $400 Billion in Property Loss
    JESS SWANSON | AUGUST 3, 2016 | 9:13AM
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    An underwater home typically refers to a mortgage that is higher than the property's value. But as rising seas are expected to increasingly flood South Florida, scientists and economists have warned that the term might be taken literally one day.

    A new study recently released by Zillow, the online real estate database, has quantified the effect of sea level rise on property values, and the findings are startling: $413 billion worth of properties are at risk of being at least partially submerged in Florida by 2100 — the most of any state, accounting for half of the nation's total projected $882 billion worth of property at risk of being flooded.

    Sea Level Rise Could Cost Florida $400 Billion in Property Loss

    And that is just the beginning.
     
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    Why do you guys keep posting that nonsense? The waters rise the waters fall in flordia been happing since the earth was born...
     
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    You don't see the evidence? Wow. Get your eyes examined. Are you ....bloody kidding? Where do you live, where you live that you don't see this? OZ?
     
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    The 2017 fire season set records in some locations for days in extreme fire danger with prolonged hot and dry weather stoking blazes and stretching resources thin, state officials told lawmakers this week.

    “One thing is clear, and that is that we do not have a fully sustainable program for fire seasons such as this one,” said Sue Clark, acting administrator of the Department of Natural Resources and Conservation forestry division.

    On Thursday, Clark appeared before the Environmental Quality Council, a legislative interim committee that meets between sessions, to update lawmakers on the fire season.


    Fire suppression costs have run close to $400 million in Montana, including about $62 million of state dollars. The state received eight federal grants that pay for 75 percent of eligible costs for fires, such as Alice Creek northeast of Lincoln, Lolo Peak in the Bitterroot Valley and the Lodgepole Complex in eastern Montana.

    The most expensive fires this year include Lolo Peak at $48 million, Rice Ridge at $47.9 million, Sapphire Complex at $36 million and Meyers at more than $32.5 million.

    More than 1.2 million acres, including about 300,000 acres on DNRC-protected state and private lands, burned in Montana this year. That puts 2017 above 2012 by more than 20,000 acres and makes it the highest year in terms of acreage in the last two decades, according to records. In 2012 costs were about $113 million, compared to the $393 million spent in 2017.
    $400 million spent on Montana wildfires this year

    And then there was the fire on the Custer State Forest in the first two weeks of December. 84 square miles, in the first two weeks of December in Wyoming, at an altitude above 4800 ft. And some of these boneheads still claim the warming is not affecting things. LOL
     
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