ghaddafi is dead thread

It's no secret that Obama out pressure on Scotland to release the Lockerbie bomber to a hero's welcome in Libya. Next thing you know we are bombing the snot out of Libya. Is this an example of incoherent foreign policy or what? Hillary seems dumb(founded) stumbling around the world while the Obama administration decides to take out any leader if it gets him a 7 point jump in the polls.
 
It's no secret that Obama out pressure on Scotland to release the Lockerbie bomber to a hero's welcome in Libya. Next thing you know we are bombing the snot out of Libya. Is this an example of incoherent foreign policy or what? Hillary seems dumb(founded) stumbling around the world while the Obama administration decides to take out any leader if it gets him a 7 point jump in the polls.
Puzzling to say the least.

All that foreign policy experience he had, eh?
 
The world is being democratized, and that benefits all of us.

So, when a Democrat is in the White House, 'bringing democracy to the world' is a good thing... but when a Republican is in the White House, it's war mongering and being the world police... got it.
 
The world is being democratized, and that benefits all of us.

So, when a Democrat is in the White House, 'bringing democracy to the world' is a good thing... but when a Republican is in the White House, it's war mongering and being the world police... got it.
It's a basic of neoconservative philosophy.

That used to be a bad thing.

Now, apparently not too much.
 
OBAMA is an ASSASSIN!!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqkc0xtLTb8&feature=player_embedded]Minister Farrakhan: "That's A Murderer In The White House!" - YouTube[/ame]
 
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Left/Democrat Chickenhawks are just making me laugh at this point. Their dishonest hypocritical spin on this stupid war is deliciously entertaining. "KILL KILL KILL!!!"
 
Just saw another video on French tv. Looks like Gaddafi was alive when they nabbed him. By the way the white house condemned the release of the Lockerbie bomber.
 
The world is being democratized, and that benefits all of us.

So, when a Democrat is in the White House, 'bringing democracy to the world' is a good thing... but when a Republican is in the White House, it's war mongering and being the world police... got it.
It's a basic of neoconservative philosophy.

That used to be a bad thing.

Now, apparently not too much.

Yeah like theres no diff between having zero boots-on-the-ground and over 130,000 in Iraq :rolleyes: AND Libya can be paid-in-full, in cash unlike Bu$h II's $4 trillion credit card war :clap2:

Why are you Rightie people so cravenly partisan :confused: :(
 
Just saw another video on French tv. Looks like Gaddafi was alive when they nabbed him. By the way the white house condemned the release of the Lockerbie bomber.
Obama lied.

Correspondence obtained by The Sunday Times reveals the Obama administration considered compassionate release more palatable than locking up Abdel Baset al-Megrahi in a Libyan prison.

The intervention, which has angered US relatives of those who died in the attack, was made by Richard LeBaron, deputy head of the US embassy in London, a week before Megrahi was freed in August last year on grounds that he had terminal cancer.

The document, acquired by a well-placed US source, threatens to undermine US President Barack Obama's claim last week that all Americans were "surprised, disappointed and angry" to learn of Megrahi's release.

....
 
So, when a Democrat is in the White House, 'bringing democracy to the world' is a good thing... but when a Republican is in the White House, it's war mongering and being the world police... got it.
It's a basic of neoconservative philosophy.

That used to be a bad thing.

Now, apparently not too much.

Yeah like theres no diff between having zero boots-on-the-ground and over 130,000 in Iraq :rolleyes: AND Libya can be paid-in-full, in cash unlike Bu$h II's $4 trillion credit card war :clap2:

Why are you Rightie people so cravenly partisan :confused: :(
Irrespective of whatever you are babbling about, it's a basic of neoconservative philosophy.
 
This Libyan War was also Unconstitutional. I know many want to conveniently ignore this but it is fact. The President did not go to our Congress for approval. It was an illegal intervention. The Chickenhawks can rejoice but i wont.
 
Just saw another video on French tv. Looks like Gaddafi was alive when they nabbed him. By the way the white house condemned the release of the Lockerbie bomber.
Obama lied.

Correspondence obtained by The Sunday Times reveals the Obama administration considered compassionate release more palatable than locking up Abdel Baset al-Megrahi in a Libyan prison.

The intervention, which has angered US relatives of those who died in the attack, was made by Richard LeBaron, deputy head of the US embassy in London, a week before Megrahi was freed in August last year on grounds that he had terminal cancer.

The document, acquired by a well-placed US source, threatens to undermine US President Barack Obama's claim last week that all Americans were "surprised, disappointed and angry" to learn of Megrahi's release.

....

You've been led around like a donkey on rope. Let's read a bit more, shall we:

In the letter, sent on August 12 last year to Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond and justice officials, Mr LeBaron wrote that the US wanted Megrahi to remain imprisoned in view of the nature of the crime.

The note added: “Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose.”

Mr LeBaron added that freeing the bomber and making him live in Scotland “would mitigate a number of the strong concerns we have expressed with regard to Megrahi’s release”.

The US administration lobbied the Scottish government more strongly against sending Megrahi home, under a prisoner transfer agreement signed by the British and Libyan governments, in a deal now known to have been linked to a pound stg. 550 million oil contract for BP.

It claimed this would flout a decade-old agreement between Britain and the US that anyone convicted of the bombing would serve their sentence in a Scottish prison. Megrahi was released by Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill on the grounds that he had three months to live, making his sentence effectively spent.

In other words, according to this report, the Obama Administration told Scottish authorities the following:

1. Don’t release Megrahi

2. If you do release him, make it a compassionate release conditioned upon him remaining in Scotland, presumably under some form of house arrest

3. Under no circumstances should you send him back to Libya.

Debunking The “White House Wanted Libyan Bomber Released” Story
 
Just saw another video on French tv. Looks like Gaddafi was alive when they nabbed him. By the way the white house condemned the release of the Lockerbie bomber.
Obama lied.

You've been led around like a donkey on rope. Let's read a bit more, shall we:

In the letter, sent on August 12 last year to Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond and justice officials, Mr LeBaron wrote that the US wanted Megrahi to remain imprisoned in view of the nature of the crime.

The note added: “Nevertheless, if Scottish authorities come to the conclusion that Megrahi must be released from Scottish custody, the US position is that conditional release on compassionate grounds would be a far preferable alternative to prisoner transfer, which we strongly oppose.”

Mr LeBaron added that freeing the bomber and making him live in Scotland “would mitigate a number of the strong concerns we have expressed with regard to Megrahi’s release”.

The US administration lobbied the Scottish government more strongly against sending Megrahi home, under a prisoner transfer agreement signed by the British and Libyan governments, in a deal now known to have been linked to a pound stg. 550 million oil contract for BP.

It claimed this would flout a decade-old agreement between Britain and the US that anyone convicted of the bombing would serve their sentence in a Scottish prison. Megrahi was released by Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill on the grounds that he had three months to live, making his sentence effectively spent.

In other words, according to this report, the Obama Administration told Scottish authorities the following:

1. Don’t release Megrahi

2. If you do release him, make it a compassionate release conditioned upon him remaining in Scotland, presumably under some form of house arrest

3. Under no circumstances should you send him back to Libya.

Debunking The “White House Wanted Libyan Bomber Released” Story
Thank you for piquing my interest. I appreciate that.

Here is a link where the communications back and forth are actually published and they confirm what you say: Lockerbie | Newsroom Magazine USA Edition

You are right. That is much more palatable.
 
ah shit, Si Modo! I make a jackass comment to you and you come back with a polite, researched response and a rep? You're supposed to deny, dodge and defend your point to the death!

Anyway, thanks.
 

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