Germany Elections please look

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    SPD Schröder 33.8 %

    CDU Merkel 35,7

    FDP 10,3

    Grüne /Green 8,2

    PDS / Communists 8 %


    Those Merkel is really looser...
    she prdicted about 45 % votes...



    All figures are live from german TV.
     
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    Figures will not change much. Only in 0,1 % steps till the end-result is being presented tonight...


    What it shows is: CDU and FDP can not coalition, because they have not the majority.


    So SPD + Grüne have not....



    But SPD + Grüne +

    FDP or PDS (Communists)

    have the majority....


    Man, this is crazy. CDU is only 2 % ahead of SPD.
    Schröder has more sympathies in society. And 2% being ahead by CDU does not justify a Chancellor Merkel.




    Perhaps it will be a major coalition, too. Between CDU and SPD...

    But there is now a big Chance that Schröder remains Chancellor. He can Coalition with Greens + FDP or PDS.


    Merkel really lost. It will be her carreer-end.
     
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    I believe that a lot of people , who traditionnaly voted for SPD, have vote this time for PDS. Then, a coalition SPD/PDS + Bundnis 90 Die Grüne would be not an illogical thing.

    well, i'll wait for the 20h - 8 PM - news on TV, then, in one hour, to have all the informations (in France it is 7 PM)

    Thanks Canavar for these informations about this election ;)
     
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    19 : 07 Central european time +20:07 Turkey, - 13:07 Washington ( I think)


    -----------------------> changes to the last prediction on 18: 22 o'clock
    SPD 33,6 % --------> up - constant

    CDU 35,2 % -------> down - constant


    FDP 10,4 % --------> up


    Greens 8,2 % --------> constant

    PDS 8,5 % -----------> up
     
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    American media is reporting that Merkel will most likely be the first female German Chancellor.
     
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    on this sote you will find the latest figures, constantly updated till tonight...


    on the homepage, you don't have to click anything..


    http://www.n-tv.de/
     
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    http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2002/germany.election/

    just found this---close one
    recount anyone?
     
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    situation is complicated....


    Merkel with her Party have only 1,5 % more votes than Schröder's SPD...


    based on this 1,5 % more votes than SPD, she will now confrontate all Parties with talks...
    FDP (capitalists) said before they want to coalition with merkel...

    But FDP + Merkel does not make majority in Parliament....


    Merkel have to take Greens too in that CDU + FDP Coalition to win the majority....



    But this is not that realistic, that greens will Coalition with FDP + Merkel.


    The other thing is that Merkel will Coalition with FDP + PDS (Communists).




    Which is unrealistic, too.






    When Merkel can not make Majority, others have the right to form a majority....


    Schröder's SPD with Greens + FDP make majority.

    Schröder's SPD with Greens + PDS (Communists) make majority.







    But in the end, you can say CDU lost. Because they are only 1,5 % ahead of SPD (Schröder), and they fail Majority.


    Other thing is that Merkel (CDU) + SPD (Schröder ) will form Coalition with being Merkel the Chancelor...

    This is unrealistic, too... Why sould Schröder go into Coalition with Merkel, when Merkel becomes Chanceloor?

    He will gave all effords that he remains Chancellor.






    When Merkel can not form a majority-coalition between 3 parties (CDU - FDP - Greenor PDS)

    It is Schröders's chance to form a majority-coalition under 3-parties- (SPD - Greens - FDP or PDS)....



    But in the end you can say when you remind of those predicted 45 % Merkel votes, that CDU fataly lost. Man, only 1,5 % ahead of Schröder....
    Before elections they predicted minimum CDU being 8 - 10 % ahead of SPD (Schröder)
     
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    in Germany the chief of the party who won the legislative election is elected.

    So, if even merkel wuld have been elected, she would have a very short majority - or not a real majority - and the governement of Germany would have been very hard to lead.

    Even with the system of the second voice to the "preference lists"
     
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    I guess in Americanese that translates into Schroeder won.
     

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