Gay marriage do you really care?

[gallantwarrior]

As far as "caring" to be against it, no. As far as "caring" to be in favor of people being free to marry who they want (as long as the person is in the age of majority and it's not an incestuous relationship ) then yeah, i care about people's freedoms to do so. If I lived in NC, I would have definitely voted against that amendment.

What do you have against incest? The only reason there is a taboo against incest is the possibility of genetic issues. If the couple has no intention of producing offspring, what's the big deal if they want to marry each other and gain the same legal and civil rights as any other couple? How about the idea of family taking care of each other? You can't take care of your siblings if they are of majority age. That's bullshit, too.

The problem with your position is "no intention" ... yet it happens.

Always? Two brothers? Two sisters? A parent and a child? "Marriage" does necessarily imply sexual activity, just a partnership between two people...

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The minute gays can marry then John Q Morman can have 10 wives......

You've seen legislation that suggests that, have you?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Deep down does anyone here really care about the gay marriage issue? I said on another thread if I made a list of my top 100 issues gay marriage would be number 101. If you really care about this either why?

You must care, or you wouldn't go to the trouble of making a thread. If there are 100 issues that are more important to you than same sex marriage why not start threads about them instead?

Just something to think about.

No actually I really don't care either way the reason I started the thread was because there is always a lot of talk about gay marriage so I was curious how many really do care about it or give it any serious thought. As for the the other 100 issues I will get around to them in time I'm pacing myself.

Keep telling yourself that and you will end up with years of therapy.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Personally, I could give a rat's patootie. But I do understand why the idea disturbs so many others. I also totally dislike the blatant disrespect offered by those who would force their views on everyone else....

......But, you do enjoy the opportunity to do so, in-defense-of Judeo-Christian "values", right?

 

[Peach]

Just defending my state.

If your State is threatened/endangered by married Gay-couples.....don't you have to start wondering what's made your State so vulnerable/weak, in the first-place??



It really-does make your State sound kinda wimpy.

What....you're one o' those people who's (continually) worried-about "what the neighbors might say"???

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Note, divorce was also "unnatural", as was miscegenation. The sickening spirit of hate lives on.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I happen to care deeply when the language of a national converation refers to other humans as 'unnatural' 'not equal' and 'less than.' This tone does not reflect the freedoms we hold so dearly.

Gay sex is unnatural.

.....To straight-people.

Option 1: Don't participate.

Option 2: See Option 1.

 

[blackhawk]

You must care, or you wouldn't go to the trouble of making a thread. If there are 100 issues that are more important to you than same sex marriage why not start threads about them instead?

Just something to think about.

No actually I really don't care either way the reason I started the thread was because there is always a lot of talk about gay marriage so I was curious how many really do care about it or give it any serious thought. As for the the other 100 issues I will get around to them in time I'm pacing myself.

Keep telling yourself that and you will end up with years of therapy.

I would why?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Deep down does anyone here really care about the gay marriage issue? I said on another thread if I made a list of my top 100 issues gay marriage would be number 101. If you really care about this either why?

NO!!!!

It's a distraction, a sideshow for the Republocrats to pretend there's some earth shattering difference between them. There isn't.

Well......unless, of course......

.....there IS!

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[Mr. Shaman]

I don't care what they do to each other in the privacy of their own home but I don't want to be forced to support their relationship and I don't want my state representatives to tell me that I need to respect a union between two bearded former cell mates.

Well.......they already exist.

How is it, exactly, they're making your life so intolerable?

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[Mr. Shaman]

Personally, I could give a rat's patootie. But I do understand why the idea disturbs so many others. I also totally dislike the blatant disrespect offered by those who would force their views on everyone else, especially when there are viable legal alternatives that would afford the same protections under the law for "same-sex" partnerships. I'd bet that many of those who are demanding that gay and lesbian civil unions be referred to as "marriage" would also be the very first in line to demand that christians remove all vestiges of their religion from public places.

That is my concern with all this. I think they should be allowed to be legally joined together. Even those getting married in a church need a license and there are the legal as well as religious aspects. Just being allowed to legally be a couple with all the benefits that entails is all anyone should want.

But, this argument also seems to be about the language, which makes no sense. Have the rights, no matter what they are called.

Each state will decide and unless Obama is really going to back up his latest words with actions, which I doubt, then the battle continues.

Do you often have problems completing your thoughts?

WHAT-is-it that "concerns" you???????

 

[thereisnospoon]

Deep down does anyone here really care about the gay marriage issue? I said on another thread if I made a list of my top 100 issues gay marriage would be number 101. If you really care about this either why?

No...Not really. If it passed here in NC, no one would have noticed.
I left it blank. In other words I stayed out of it. I voted for candidates I wanted on the ballot in the general election.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I happen to care deeply when the language of a national converation refers to other humans as 'unnatural' 'not equal' and 'less than.' This tone does not reflect the freedoms we hold so dearly.

Gay sex is unnatural.

.....To straight-people.

Option 1: Don't participate.

Option 2: See Option 1.

It's unnatural if gay sex was natural everybody would be asexual.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Absolutely. Before a change like this is made, the government needs to address how it is going to pay out all the social benefits like Social Security widow(er) and orphan's benefits before they push it throughy. This is a HUGE economic catastrophe waiting to happen. The minute gays can marry then John Q Morman can have 10 wives and they and all his little rug rats will be on Social Security when he over exerts himself with wife number 4 and dies of a heart attacki!

No, the surviving spouse IS MORE LIKELY to be working and contributing. Again, reference the end of anti miscegenation laws.

Really? and you know this how?

I'm guessin'.....the same way you KNOW "The minute gays can marry then John Q Morman can have 10 wives...".​

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Deep down does anyone here really care about the gay marriage issue? I said on another thread if I made a list of my top 100 issues gay marriage would be number 101. If you really care about this either why?

No...Not really. If it passed here in NC, no one would have noticed.
I left it blank. In other words I stayed out of it. I voted for candidates I wanted on the ballot in the general election.

I don't think it would have went unnoticed.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Deep down does anyone here really care about the gay marriage issue? I said on another thread if I made a list of my top 100 issues gay marriage would be number 101. If you really care about this either why?

I care whenever fellow humans are denied human rights(.)

Marriage is NOT a "human" right.
Yours comes from the hysterical point of view.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Personally, I could give a rat's patootie. But I do understand why the idea disturbs so many others. I also totally dislike the blatant disrespect offered by those who would force their views on everyone else, especially when there are viable legal alternatives that would afford the same protections under the law for "same-sex" partnerships. I'd bet that many of those who are demanding that gay and lesbian civil unions be referred to as "marriage" would also be the very first in line to demand that christians remove all vestiges of their religion from public places.

I know what you mean...telling others they can't get married due to the bigotted behaviour of others is rather disturbing.....

Bingo!!​

 

[thereisnospoon]

Personally, I could give a rat's patootie. But I do understand why the idea disturbs so many others. I also totally dislike the blatant disrespect offered by those who would force their views on everyone else, especially when there are viable legal alternatives that would afford the same protections under the law for "same-sex" partnerships. I'd bet that many of those who are demanding that gay and lesbian civil unions be referred to as "marriage" would also be the very first in line to demand that christians remove all vestiges of their religion from public places.

Precisely.
I do not oppose civil unions . Let them have their day in the sun. Let committed couples enjoy the benefits of a spousal relationship. And wait for the fallout.
what is it 55% of all marriages fail. Why gay people would want this is a mystery.

 

[thereisnospoon]

I happen to care deeply when the language of a national converation refers to other humans as 'unnatural' 'not equal' and 'less than.' This tone does not reflect the freedoms we hold so dearly.

Then you probably don't like 'pole smoker' one bit.

How about "bone smuggler"?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I really don't care what each state does. I'd be angry if it went to fed issue. Personally my choice is government out of marriage, including fees. Civil unions for all. Religious outlets can perform marriages and collect the fees.

They already do.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Personally, I could give a rat's patootie. But I do understand why the idea disturbs so many others. I also totally dislike the blatant disrespect offered by those who would force their views on everyone else, especially when there are viable legal alternatives that would afford the same protections under the law for "same-sex" partnerships. I'd bet that many of those who are demanding that gay and lesbian civil unions be referred to as "marriage" would also be the very first in line to demand that christians remove all vestiges of their religion from public places.

That is my concern with all this. I think they should be allowed to be legally joined together. Even those getting married in a church need a license and there are the legal as well as religious aspects. Just being allowed to legally be a couple with all the benefits that entails is all anyone should want.

But, this argument also seems to be about the language, which makes no sense. Have the rights, no matter what they are called.

Each state will decide and unless Obama is really going to back up his latest words with actions, which I doubt, then the battle continues.

As far as this issue being a top priority right now, no. People have lost their jobs, their homes and there is little hope on the horizon. That is number one.

You said it all in that last sentence. News is, American Airlines is letting 13,000 people go.
As far as the subject of gay marriage goes, I've said this before: do they really need some piece of paper, or some forced "blessing" to validate their love for each other? If "marriage" is such a meaningless word (for hetero couples), and if civil equality is the tantamount issue, why can't they cede the concept of "marriage" and accept "civil unions", as long as those "unions" imply the same legal rights as "married" people enjoy?

Ah, yes.....whatever it takes....to avoid allowing Gays into that private, little club called "marriage".

Your arrested-development is showing.​