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why do you think that it's giving the finger when it clearly isn't... ? kneeling in any manner has never been considered anything but a humbling gesture, in the holiest of ways.Of course it's up to the private owners....
The President of the USA should have kept his trap shut....
So . . . . the President doesn't share the right to free speech others do?
The one who is at fault here is ROGER GOODELL. If he had run his company, the NFL, and followed its own rules and fined Kapernick a year ago for public displays unauthorized or outside game interests, none of this would have ever happened. The issue isn't Trump, the issue isn't the kneeling. The issue is them doing it at a neutral sports game in a fashion that gives the finger to the whole damn country!
So now that I have made you a fool and liar on your original ignorance of the 1st Amend...you want to tell an easily disprovable lie and say that trump did not call for their firing???...lol.Nonsense .... are you intentionally misinterpreting the incident, or is it an accident?He called for their firing...case closed.Yeah the President has1st Amendment Rights, it's just that anyone with a third grade understanding of those Rights realize that he doesn't have the right to infringe upon the player's Rights...The POTUS doesn't have 1st amendment rights?
He didn't infringe on their rights, when did he call for state censorship? It is you who doesn't understand the 1st amendment.
Checkmate and you are done...
Before you try that bullshit, ley me cut you off at the kness...
2:34 mark, calling for the illegal firing of players for execising their 1st Amend Rights...
Why would you willingly embrace such ignorance...???It's not WHAT you protest ---- it's what you are PERCEIVED to be protesting.But they are not disrespecting the flag or anthem or our country. They are kneeling in protest of a subject you should be protesting instead of haveing some pretend tissy fit.So they can only protest in a manner that you approve of...lol.If this is the case, the players are doing a piss poor job of getting their message out.Those players are protesting civil injustices towards black men, as example...that the police have killed over the decades who were unarmed, or carrying a toy gun etc etc etc, yet none have ever been punished...they are not protesting our anthem and flag...
The First Amendment is why our President, the head of our government, should not get involved and in the middle of this, period. It's the government that is restricted by our first amendment right, not the private owners and the owners should be able to make their own decisions without the government's top dog President calling mother's of player's bitches and without the President recommending they be fired if they don't stand up and sing praise to our nation/ our government as our government head snaps his fingers and wants them to....
He needs to shut up, and butt out...
People are not reacting to what they are protesting about, they are reacting to the method of protest.
If players want to protest, let them walk around the field holding picket signs before the national anthem. Hell, let them refuse to play!!
As for the players' so-called First Amendment right, that is, simply, not applicable. Owners do not have to allow them to protest. Fans can punish owners for not stopping it, and they can punish players for what they perceive as disrespect for the flag, for the country, and for its veterans.
You can say that the fans are misinterpreting the message all you want - the fact is that, if the players want to get THEIR message across, they need to find another way. Nobody is listening to what the players claim they are saying - they are only reacting to what they see the players do.
As for the President -- he represents the people, and he is telling the NFL what the people are saying. Problem is - they aren't listening.
Grow up asshole...
Your ignorance is only exceeded by your immaturity.
Nobody cares if they protest - people only care that the protest not disrespect the flag and the National Anthem.
So now that I have made you a fool and liar on your original ignorance of the 1st Amend...you want to tell an easily disprovable lie and say that trump did not call for their firing???...lol.Nonsense .... are you intentionally misinterpreting the incident, or is it an accident?He called for their firing...case closed.Yeah the President has1st Amendment Rights, it's just that anyone with a third grade understanding of those Rights realize that he doesn't have the right to infringe upon the player's Rights...
He didn't infringe on their rights, when did he call for state censorship? It is you who doesn't understand the 1st amendment.
Checkmate and you are done...
Before you try that bullshit, ley me cut you off at the kness...
2:34 mark, calling for the illegal firing of players for execising their 1st Amend Rights...
Man, you are one dumb dude.
You rattle on about stuff you don't understand - you attack people you don't understand - and now you embarrass yourself like this.
You truly are waste of human flesh. I have no time for a simpleton of your caliber.
I consider them accurate descriptives, especially when you consider the points in the response.You really are an NFL player. The flag represents the constitution and the essence of our country, including freedom of speech. These idiots don't know how to articulate their contrived, substanceless grievance. As a result, they protest against their own freedom to protest. As Sgt. Lincoln Osiris would say, "moronical".No, you have it backwards. They're not protesting for the opportunity to protest. They're essentially protesting against the opportunity to protest. Like using democracy to vote down democracy.They're protesting against the symbols that represent their right to protest? So you're saying because they can protest, they shouldn't? Er.... wow,
But they're not.
Your argument is that the flag and the anthem are the things that PROTECT people to protest. They're not. They symbols and nothing more. They're symbols of the US govt.
Now, the US govt should be protecting free speech. But the President is arguing AGAINST free speech. So the flag and the anthem right NOW, represent a govt that is OPPOSED to free speech.
Oh, going for insults I see. Maybe if you try writing WITHOUT insults, you might get a reply.
I wonder why all these Righties were upset about B. Clinton's sex life then.Yeah the President has1st Amendment Rights, it's just that anyone with a third grade understanding of those Rights realize that he doesn't have the right to infringe upon the player's Rights...The POTUS doesn't have 1st amendment rights?
He didn't infringe on their rights, when did he call for state censorship? It is you who doesn't understand the 1st amendment.
It was a sexual harassment lawsuit and Clinton perjured himself and obstructed justice which is why the lying scumbag rapist was disbarred.
All because you think consensual sex between adults is any of your fucking business.
Just admit you ignorance and move on....He used the power of the bully pulpit to call for the infringement of their 1st Amend Rights.He called for their firing...case closed.He didn't infringe on their rights, when did he call for state censorship? It is you who doesn't understand the 1st amendment.
Checkmate and you are done...
Yep that's his first amendment right, did he use the power of the state to fine the NFL? No, get educated, this is like shooting retarted fish in a barrel.
Again that is his 1st amendment right to do so, call me when fines are levied, incentives offered, or arrests made, and in the meantime brush up on your Con Law, this is undergraduate level buddy.
So now that I have made you a fool and liar on your original ignorance of the 1st Amend...you want to tell an easily disprovable lie and say that trump did not call for their firing???...lol.Nonsense .... are you intentionally misinterpreting the incident, or is it an accident?He called for their firing...case closed.He didn't infringe on their rights, when did he call for state censorship? It is you who doesn't understand the 1st amendment.
Checkmate and you are done...
Before you try that bullshit, ley me cut you off at the kness...
2:34 mark, calling for the illegal firing of players for execising their 1st Amend Rights...
Man, you are one dumb dude.
You rattle on about stuff you don't understand - you attack people you don't understand - and now you embarrass yourself like this.
You truly are waste of human flesh. I have no time for a simpleton of your caliber.
So you have no actual basis in reality and are upset...go calm down now.
So now that I have made you a fool and liar on your original ignorance of the 1st Amend...you want to tell an easily disprovable lie and say that trump did not call for their firing???...lol.Nonsense .... are you intentionally misinterpreting the incident, or is it an accident?He called for their firing...case closed.
Checkmate and you are done...
Before you try that bullshit, ley me cut you off at the kness...
2:34 mark, calling for the illegal firing of players for execising their 1st Amend Rights...
Man, you are one dumb dude.
You rattle on about stuff you don't understand - you attack people you don't understand - and now you embarrass yourself like this.
You truly are waste of human flesh. I have no time for a simpleton of your caliber.
So you have no actual basis in reality and are upset...go calm down now.
Calling for their firing is Trumps 1st amendment right, again no fines have been imposed, no licenses rescinded, no legislation passed, and no arrests made, quite frankly you're a fucking idiot.
If you weren't so stupid you would be hilarious.Calling for their firing is Trumps 1st amendment right
Being that you are too stupid to realize the implications of a sitting President using his bully pulpit to call for the firing of citizen's exercising their Rights is a perfect example of the difference between education and intelligence.Just admit you ignorance and move on....He used the power of the bully pulpit to call for the infringement of their 1st Amend Rights.He called for their firing...case closed.
Checkmate and you are done...
Yep that's his first amendment right, did he use the power of the state to fine the NFL? No, get educated, this is like shooting retarted fish in a barrel.
Again that is his 1st amendment right to do so, call me when fines are levied, incentives offered, or arrests made, and in the meantime brush up on your Con Law, this is undergraduate level buddy.
You are the one with a fundamental misunderstanding of the 1st amendment, there has been no state censorship or calls for state censorship, no fines have been imposed, no licenses rescinded, no legislation passed, and. no arrests made, you are a laughable hack that doesn't have even a undergraduates understanding of Con Law, you are the quintessential example of what is wrong with America's educational system.
So now that I have made you a fool and liar on your original ignorance of the 1st Amend...you want to tell an easily disprovable lie and say that trump did not call for their firing???...lol.Nonsense .... are you intentionally misinterpreting the incident, or is it an accident?He called for their firing...case closed.Yeah the President has1st Amendment Rights, it's just that anyone with a third grade understanding of those Rights realize that he doesn't have the right to infringe upon the player's Rights...
He didn't infringe on their rights, when did he call for state censorship? It is you who doesn't understand the 1st amendment.
Checkmate and you are done...
Before you try that bullshit, ley me cut you off at the kness...
2:34 mark, calling for the illegal firing of players for execising their 1st Amend Rights...
Man, you are one dumb dude.
You rattle on about stuff you don't understand - you attack people you don't understand - and now you embarrass yourself like this.
You truly are waste of human flesh. I have no time for a simpleton of your caliber.
So now that I have made you a fool and liar on your original ignorance of the 1st Amend...you want to tell an easily disprovable lie and say that trump did not call for their firing???...lol.Nonsense .... are you intentionally misinterpreting the incident, or is it an accident?He called for their firing...case closed.He didn't infringe on their rights, when did he call for state censorship? It is you who doesn't understand the 1st amendment.
Checkmate and you are done...
Before you try that bullshit, ley me cut you off at the kness...
2:34 mark, calling for the illegal firing of players for execising their 1st Amend Rights...
Man, you are one dumb dude.
You rattle on about stuff you don't understand - you attack people you don't understand - and now you embarrass yourself like this.
You truly are waste of human flesh. I have no time for a simpleton of your caliber.
You see, he, like so many typical Libs don't ever really have an answer to anything, they try to pretend they do but inwardly hate themselves and despise normal, healthy people for being smarter and better off than them. If you watch them, they never answer ANYTHING with anything other than condescension and sanctimonious bullshit and hide behind insults and name calling because they don't have ANYTHING else to offer. They have such inward feelings of inadequacy that they try to insult others into just going away and leaving so that they can be left alone in their misery thinking they actually won something. They are to be pitied.
Being that you are too stupid to realize the implications of a sitting President using his bully pulpit to call for the firing of citizen's exercising their Rights is a perfect example of the difference between education and intelligence.Just admit you ignorance and move on....He used the power of the bully pulpit to call for the infringement of their 1st Amend Rights.Yep that's his first amendment right, did he use the power of the state to fine the NFL? No, get educated, this is like shooting retarted fish in a barrel.
Again that is his 1st amendment right to do so, call me when fines are levied, incentives offered, or arrests made, and in the meantime brush up on your Con Law, this is undergraduate level buddy.
You are the one with a fundamental misunderstanding of the 1st amendment, there has been no state censorship or calls for state censorship, no fines have been imposed, no licenses rescinded, no legislation passed, and. no arrests made, you are a laughable hack that doesn't have even a undergraduates understanding of Con Law, you are the quintessential example of what is wrong with America's educational system.
If you weren't so stupid you would be hilarious.
First you lied and stated that trump never called for their firing.
When I proved you a liar now you want to backtrack and ignorantly claim that trump has a First Amendment Right to punish others for exercising their First Amendment Rights...
Maybe it is the concussions?These players have to be among the stupidest people in human history and on multiple levels.
They protest against the symbols that represent their right to protest and they insult most of their customer base in the process.
It was about Monica Lewinski. That was consensual sex between adults.I wonder why all these Righties were upset about B. Clinton's sex life then.Yeah the President has1st Amendment Rights, it's just that anyone with a third grade understanding of those Rights realize that he doesn't have the right to infringe upon the player's Rights...
He didn't infringe on their rights, when did he call for state censorship? It is you who doesn't understand the 1st amendment.
It was a sexual harassment lawsuit and Clinton perjured himself and obstructed justice which is why the lying scumbag rapist was disbarred.
All because you think consensual sex between adults is any of your fucking business.
It wasn't about consensual sex it was about a sexual harassment lawsuit in which Clinton obstructed justice and perjured himself.
It's not WHAT you protest ---- it's what you are PERCEIVED to be protesting.But they are not disrespecting the flag or anthem or our country. They are kneeling in protest of a subject you should be protesting instead of haveing some pretend tissy fit.So they can only protest in a manner that you approve of...lol.If this is the case, the players are doing a piss poor job of getting their message out.Those players are protesting civil injustices towards black men, as example...that the police have killed over the decades who were unarmed, or carrying a toy gun etc etc etc, yet none have ever been punished...they are not protesting our anthem and flag...
The First Amendment is why our President, the head of our government, should not get involved and in the middle of this, period. It's the government that is restricted by our first amendment right, not the private owners and the owners should be able to make their own decisions without the government's top dog President calling mother's of player's bitches and without the President recommending they be fired if they don't stand up and sing praise to our nation/ our government as our government head snaps his fingers and wants them to....
He needs to shut up, and butt out...
People are not reacting to what they are protesting about, they are reacting to the method of protest.
If players want to protest, let them walk around the field holding picket signs before the national anthem. Hell, let them refuse to play!!
As for the players' so-called First Amendment right, that is, simply, not applicable. Owners do not have to allow them to protest. Fans can punish owners for not stopping it, and they can punish players for what they perceive as disrespect for the flag, for the country, and for its veterans.
You can say that the fans are misinterpreting the message all you want - the fact is that, if the players want to get THEIR message across, they need to find another way. Nobody is listening to what the players claim they are saying - they are only reacting to what they see the players do.
As for the President -- he represents the people, and he is telling the NFL what the people are saying. Problem is - they aren't listening.
Grow up asshole...
Your ignorance is only exceeded by your immaturity.
Nobody cares if they protest - people only care that the protest not disrespect the flag and the National Anthem.
No, it was about perjury stemming from an investigation into a sexual harrassment pattern. The investigation was prompted by Clinton's AG, Janet Reno.It was about Monica Lewinski. That was consensual sex between adults.I wonder why all these Righties were upset about B. Clinton's sex life then.He didn't infringe on their rights, when did he call for state censorship? It is you who doesn't understand the 1st amendment.
It was a sexual harassment lawsuit and Clinton perjured himself and obstructed justice which is why the lying scumbag rapist was disbarred.
All because you think consensual sex between adults is any of your fucking business.
It wasn't about consensual sex it was about a sexual harassment lawsuit in which Clinton obstructed justice and perjured himself.
No, it was about perjury stemming from an investigation into a sexual harrassment pattern. The investigation was prompted by Clinton's AG, Janet Reno.It was about Monica Lewinski. That was consensual sex between adults.I wonder why all these Righties were upset about B. Clinton's sex life then.
It was a sexual harassment lawsuit and Clinton perjured himself and obstructed justice which is why the lying scumbag rapist was disbarred.
All because you think consensual sex between adults is any of your fucking business.
It wasn't about consensual sex it was about a sexual harassment lawsuit in which Clinton obstructed justice and perjured himself.
Which is what makes the perjury that much more disgusting. If the pathological liar could have come clean just once we wouldn't have had to deal with the entire impeachment issue.No, it was about perjury stemming from an investigation into a sexual harrassment pattern. The investigation was prompted by Clinton's AG, Janet Reno.It was about Monica Lewinski. That was consensual sex between adults.It was a sexual harassment lawsuit and Clinton perjured himself and obstructed justice which is why the lying scumbag rapist was disbarred.
All because you think consensual sex between adults is any of your fucking business.
It wasn't about consensual sex it was about a sexual harassment lawsuit in which Clinton obstructed justice and perjured himself.
The supposed lie was about Lewinski. Try to at least pretend to be informed.
