Future Colin Kaepernicks, Beware: You Can Get Fired for Political Speech

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    Don't worry snowflakes, none of the millionaires are going to get fired. After all they are just doing the biding of the rich team owners.

    But First Amendment experts say most employees can be fired from many jobs for exercising their freedom of speech.

    Federal law does not protect workers in the private sector — only government employees.

    “There is no federal law protecting against discrimination or retaliation for political activity” at private companies, Paula Brantner, a senior adviser at Workplace Fairness, told TheWrap. “A lot of people think they have First Amendment rights, but those only apply to government employees.”

    Future Colin Kaepernicks, Beware: You Can Get Fired for Political Speech
     
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    Well if I understand your laws correct, they are allowed to voice their opinion as they do while at work, or anywhere for that matter, but I don't think an owner has to accept this opinion on his dime. Thus, one can expect a fairly short career through such actions.

    There is of course, the broader issue of the fans and public being accepting of this, as it interferes with their "investment" in entertainment. Taking the time to watch a game, spending your hard earned money and choosing the NFL over other forms of entertainment is an investment of sorts. If you do not feel entertained and instead feel insulted, and/or believe that this encroaches on your enjoyment as you escape from the real world for a little while, well, the owners will feel the pain. By osmosis, so will the players.
     
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    This was never a 1st Amendment issue. No one is expecting the Fed's to punish anyone. This is about a bunch of asshole trolls getting severe backlash from the fans who pay them
     
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    These players have to be among the stupidest people in human history and on multiple levels.
    They protest against the symbols that represent their right to protest and they insult most of their customer base in the process.
     
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    Of course it's up to the private owners....

    The President of the USA should have kept his trap shut....
     
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    Why? He has the right to speak, too, and a responsibility to do so when he represents the highest authority of what those players are protesting.
     
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    They're protesting against the symbols that represent their right to protest? So you're saying because they can protest, they shouldn't? Er.... wow,
     
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    Those players are protesting civil injustices towards black men, as example...that the police have killed over the decades who were unarmed, or carrying a toy gun etc etc etc, yet none have ever been punished...they are not protesting our anthem and flag...


    The First Amendment is why our President, the head of our government, should not get involved and in the middle of this, period. It's the government that is restricted by our first amendment right, not the private owners and the owners should be able to make their own decisions without the government's top dog President calling mother's of player's bitches and without the President recommending they be fired if they don't stand up and sing praise to our nation/ our government as our government head snaps his fingers and wants them to....

    He needs to shut up, and butt out...
     
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    He has no responsibility. His responsibility is to defend the Constitution of the US. Not to use the flag and anthem as a political weapon. Trump and his supporters are in-American and fake patriots. This truly is starting to look like Nazi Germany. The Nazis burned books that did not conform and now Trump and his supporters are invoking Hitler and the Nazis and burning things that do not conform to their warped view of the world.
     
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    If this is the case, the players are doing a piss poor job of getting their message out.

    People are not reacting to what they are protesting about, they are reacting to the method of protest.

    If players want to protest, let them walk around the field holding picket signs before the national anthem. Hell, let them refuse to play!!

    As for the players' so-called First Amendment right, that is, simply, not applicable. Owners do not have to allow them to protest. Fans can punish owners for not stopping it, and they can punish players for what they perceive as disrespect for the flag, for the country, and for its veterans.

    You can say that the fans are misinterpreting the message all you want - the fact is that, if the players want to get THEIR message across, they need to find another way. Nobody is listening to what the players claim they are saying - they are only reacting to what they see the players do.

    As for the President -- he represents the people, and he is telling the NFL what the people are saying. Problem is - they aren't listening.
     
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