dilloduck
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forever (we also pay for healthcare for millions of illegals)j07950 said:And how many years do they spend paying it back???
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forever (we also pay for healthcare for millions of illegals)j07950 said:And how many years do they spend paying it back???
j07950 said:And how many years do they spend paying it back???
Please, please, please read this carefully.... you have ignored it though it has already been stated several times.....a hospital cannot turn away an individual simply because they have no insurance or no money...j07950 said:Get what you are saying...It's true but 42.6 million people in the US without health insurance is a lot...What is it...like 1/6 of population? Thats a lot of people who can get sick and not get treatments because they don't have health insurance and no money.
http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/U.S. HCweb.pdf
j07950 said:But like I said nothing like this had ever happened before and could not have been thought of happening. You guys in the US are used to harsh summers...It like rarely goes as high as 100°F in France...it's very rare especially in Paris.
CSM said:Please, please, please read this carefully.... you have ignored it though it has already been stated several times.....a hospital cannot turn away an individual simply because they have no insurance or no money...
If you continue to ignore what is being said about this I will once again become convinced that you are deliberately ignoring the facts so you can bash the US...
Said1 said:I'm not American, I think I've pointed that out to you before, I'm Canadian.
Also, nothing like the ice storm in Jan 1998 has happened previously (that I can think of off the top of my head) in Ontario or Quebec . Some people were without heat and hydro for 3-4 weeks during in some pretty harsh temperatures. Very few died, and considering the extensive damage, (power lines ect) that's pretty good.
Thats my point. I quiet like the idea of everyone getting health care in France and not having to pay back for the treatments forever like in the US. We pay amounts in tax each month and this pays for most of our care. And most people also have what is called here "Mutuel", don't know how it's called in the US, which pays for the remaining of the cost if there is one. This mutuel is a fee payed every month and does not increase even if you have an operation that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars.dilloduck said:forever (we also pay for healthcare for millions of illegals)
j07950 said:Thats my point. I quiet like the idea of everyone getting health care in France and not having to pay back for the treatments forever like in the US. We pay amounts in tax each month and this pays for most of our care. And most people also have what is called here "Mutuel", don't know how it's called in the US, which pays for the remaining of the cost if there is one. This mutuel is a fee payed every month and does not increase even if you have an operation that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I was never trying to say your health care wasn't of good quality, only that people who can't afford the costs sometimes don't go get treated because they know they can't pay it back...
So to end this I'm happy our government spends so much on health care... for it's people..instead of other things...
If your health care is free...why do you need a Mutual? I do not understand.j07950 said:Thats my point. I quiet like the idea of everyone getting health care in France and not having to pay back for the treatments forever like in the US. We pay amounts in tax each month and this pays for most of our care. And most people also have what is called here "Mutuel", don't know how it's called in the US, which pays for the remaining of the cost if there is one. This mutuel is a fee payed every month and does not increase even if you have an operation that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I was never trying to say your health care wasn't of good quality, only that people who can't afford the costs sometimes don't go get treated because they know they can't pay it back...
So to end this I'm happy our government spends so much on health care... for it's people..instead of other things...
I got that...but people spend years paying back for the costs...thats a set back and people often don't choose to get treated...CSM said:Please, please, please read this carefully.... you have ignored it though it has already been stated several times.....a hospital cannot turn away an individual simply because they have no insurance or no money...
If you continue to ignore what is being said about this I will once again become convinced that you are deliberately ignoring the facts so you can bash the US...
If people are foolish enough to not get treatment --c'est la viej07950 said:I got that...but people spend years paying back for the costs...thats a set back and people often don't choose to get treated...
no1tovote4 said:You guys did a great job with that one. We sometimes have to move people into shelters from the cold, but not at the level you did then.
Once again, you are only seeing what you want to....the uninsured and poor pay nothing...get it...NOTHING! No1 has been laying it out for you and you refuse to see it or are deliberately ignoring it...j07950 said:I got that...but people spend years paying back for the costs...thats a set back and people often don't choose to get treated...
Because not all costs are payed by the state health care system, you should have come across that if you documented yourself. It mays for most stuff but there is often a difference between cost and what it pays back, which is where the "mutuel" comes in...mutuels don't cost a whole lot anyway. And through cut backs like you were stating before the state reimbourses less than it use to, which is why the mutuel is useful. Most people can afford it and if they cant then there are other solutions...CSM said:If your health care is free...why do you need a Mutual? I do not understand.
padisha emperor said:Noody is bashing the US here......
But the US health care system is realy not perfect for the poors.
they have to pay, and some have not the money to pay the medical intervention.
the main difference with France is that in France, the State pay for a large part the medical cares.
The medics are payed by the social security system,then you can be really poor and have the same cares than a rich, the same medic.
The social security pay.
of course, there is a big hole in it budget, but it is the price to pay to have a population who can get the best for the health care.
so you pay taxes AND pay for your health care !j07950 said:Because not all costs are payed by the state health care system, you should have come across that if you documented yourself. It mays for most stuff but there is often a difference between cost and what it pays back, which is where the "mutuel" comes in...mutuels don't cost a whole lot anyway. And through cut backs like you were stating before the state reimbourses less than it use to, which is why the mutuel is useful. Most people can afford it and if they cant then there are other solutions...
You lost me...what do you mean if I "documented" myself? I asked a simple question and you take a cheap jab at me?j07950 said:Because not all costs are payed by the state health care system, you should have come across that if you documented yourself. It mays for most stuff but there is often a difference between cost and what it pays back, which is where the "mutuel" comes in...mutuels don't cost a whole lot anyway. And through cut backs like you were stating before the state reimbourses less than it use to, which is why the mutuel is useful. Most people can afford it and if they cant then there are other solutions...