Free the US Corporations from this huge burden

[naturegirl]

why do you people refuse the overwhleming facts in evidence?

I just have to laugh, you're not looking too good for your side.

 

[Truthmatters]

You want to sacrafice our entire country so insurance companies can continue to make money on healthcare.


Its us or them and in the end they will suffer too.

 

[Truthmatters]

File:Total health expenditure per capita, US Dollars PPP.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


read the chart people

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

why do you people refuse the overwhleming facts in evidence?

Why do you continue to display overwhelming stupidity?

 

[eflatminor]

They deduct it from the employees pay FOR the government.

Its not their burden is it

But as you stated in post #18, corporations also have to contribute to their employees health care costs, which you are saying is a problem for corporations that would be lessened under a universal health care scheme. So again, I ask you, please demonstrate how the taxes on corporations that would be required under universal health care would be less than their health-care related burdens required under current law.

It is proven over and over again by all the countries who do it right now.

They pay less and get better care than we do

If that is true for America, then surely you can point something with specificity that demonstrates what corporations pay now for healthcare in taxes and regulations vs what they would pay under a universal health care scheme. You can't just say "Sweden does it" and expect it to work here. You want to be taken seriously? Support your argument with specificity, logic and reason.

 

[Truthmatters]

File:Total health expenditure per capita, US Dollars PPP.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


facts never seem tpo help you guys very much.

IS THAT WHY YOU HATE THEM?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I'm done here, you bore me TM. It used to be fun to watch you twist in the wind, now its just par for the course.

Later fool

 

[Truthmatters]

But as you stated in post #18, corporations also have to contribute to their employees health care costs, which you are saying is a problem for corporations that would be lessened under a universal health care scheme. So again, I ask you, please demonstrate how the taxes on corporations that would be required under universal health care would be less than their health-care related burdens required under current law.

It is proven over and over again by all the countries who do it right now.

They pay less and get better care than we do

If that is true for America, then surely you can point something with specificity that demonstrates what corporations pay now for healthcare in taxes and regulations vs what they would pay under a universal health care scheme. You can't just say "Sweden does it" and expect it to work here. You want to be taken seriously? Support your argument with specificity, logic and reason.

This chart proves it.

File:Total health expenditure per capita, US Dollars PPP.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[UpAndAbout]

This one sticks in your craw huh?


Not one of these clowns can deal with facts.

why do you people hate American corporations?

Universal health care - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sometimes the health funds are derived from a mixture of insurance premiums, salary related mandatory contributions by employees and/or employers to regulated sickness funds, and by government taxes. These insurance based systems tend to reimburse private or public medical providers, often at heavily regulated rates, through mutual or publicly owned medical insurers. A few countries such as the Netherlands and Switzerland operate via privately owned but heavily regulated private insurers that are not allowed to make a profit from the mandatory element of insurance but can profit by selling supplemental insurance.

Universal health care is a broad concept that has been implemented in several ways. The common denominator for all such programs is some form of government action aimed at extending access to health care as widely as possible and setting minimum standards. Most implement universal health care through legislation, regulation and taxation. Legislation and regulation direct what care must be provided, to whom, and on what basis. Usually some costs are borne by the patient at the time of consumption but the bulk of costs come from a combination of compulsory insurance and tax revenues

And BTW anybody can be a "corporation", even one person, so all "corporations" are going to be taxed in some way to pay for this. How else is the government going to get the money? Grow it on trees?

 

[Truthmatters]

I'm done here, you bore me TM. It used to be fun to watch you twist in the wind, now its just par for the course.

Later fool

Fine run away from the facts you fool.

it doesnt make you anything but stupid

 

[syrenn]

HM Revenue & Customs: National Insurance for employers: the basics


from your link

From my link.... what?

Employers pay NIC - National Insurance Contributions.... that's health care. Twit. They pay.... corporations.... employers.... they fucking pay, employees - they pay too.

Currently, their NHS costs around £100billion... for a country with some 60 million people. Convert that to US$, and do the fucking math. And that's not enough.... the UK's system is collapsing.

You're such a moron..... and a racist.

IT COMES OUT OF THE EMPLOEES MONEY!



why do you refuse to face facts?

right... they pay for it...its theirs..

what abut the ones who DONT pay for it? you know all the ones who dont pay a cent of federal taxes.

 

[naturegirl]

Health care didn't become unaffordable until everyone jumped on the Health Insurance band wagon, and the trial lawyers filed in right behind with their lawsuits.

Until that time, we didn't really need health insurance. Yea it took a while to pay off some of the bills but we eventually got it done if they were for a major illness.

Why do you insist on allowing health care costs to continue to rise instead of trying to get those costs back in line so everyone can afford health care without government interference.

Just like a DEM, expecting the government to save them, bail them out and give them all the (cough, cough) freebies on the backs of American workers and businesses. While the costs continue to skyrocket.

 

[syrenn]

I'm done here, you bore me TM. It used to be fun to watch you twist in the wind, now its just par for the course.

Later fool

Fine run away from the facts you fool.

it doesnt make you anything but stupid

Fact... liesmatters is a liar
Fact... liesmatters is a racist.
Fact...liesmatters is anything BUT smart.


run...run ..run away from the facts you fool.

 

[Truthmatters]

This one sticks in your craw huh?


Not one of these clowns can deal with facts.

why do you people hate American corporations?

Universal health care - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sometimes the health funds are derived from a mixture of insurance premiums, salary related mandatory contributions by employees and/or employers to regulated sickness funds, and by government taxes. These insurance based systems tend to reimburse private or public medical providers, often at heavily regulated rates, through mutual or publicly owned medical insurers. A few countries such as the Netherlands and Switzerland operate via privately owned but heavily regulated private insurers that are not allowed to make a profit from the mandatory element of insurance but can profit by selling supplemental insurance.

Universal health care is a broad concept that has been implemented in several ways. The common denominator for all such programs is some form of government action aimed at extending access to health care as widely as possible and setting minimum standards. Most implement universal health care through legislation, regulation and taxation. Legislation and regulation direct what care must be provided, to whom, and on what basis. Usually some costs are borne by the patient at the time of consumption but the bulk of costs come from a combination of compulsory insurance and tax revenues

And BTW anybody can be a "corporation", even one person, so all "corporations" are going to be taxed in some way to pay for this. How else is the government going to get the money? Grow it on trees?

pay everyone paying.

everyone needs healthcare.

everyone should pay.


That is what universal healthcare does.


why spoend so many dollars making sure someone makes a profit when the sysstem is unsustainable because of a need for profit?

 

[Truthmatters]

This one sticks in your craw huh?


Not one of these clowns can deal with facts.

why do you people hate American corporations?

Universal health care - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sometimes the health funds are derived from a mixture of insurance premiums, salary related mandatory contributions by employees and/or employers to regulated sickness funds, and by government taxes. These insurance based systems tend to reimburse private or public medical providers, often at heavily regulated rates, through mutual or publicly owned medical insurers. A few countries such as the Netherlands and Switzerland operate via privately owned but heavily regulated private insurers that are not allowed to make a profit from the mandatory element of insurance but can profit by selling supplemental insurance.

Universal health care is a broad concept that has been implemented in several ways. The common denominator for all such programs is some form of government action aimed at extending access to health care as widely as possible and setting minimum standards. Most implement universal health care through legislation, regulation and taxation. Legislation and regulation direct what care must be provided, to whom, and on what basis. Usually some costs are borne by the patient at the time of consumption but the bulk of costs come from a combination of compulsory insurance and tax revenues

And BTW anybody can be a "corporation", even one person, so all "corporations" are going to be taxed in some way to pay for this. How else is the government going to get the money? Grow it on trees?

by everyone paying.

everyone needs healthcare.

everyone should pay.


That is what universal healthcare does.


why spend so many dollars making sure someone makes a profit when the system is unsustainable because of a need for profit?

 

[Claudette]

Hell. They will just tax the shit out of the top 1% to pay for it.

Haven't you heard? They don't pay their fair share. LOL

 

[eflatminor]

It is proven over and over again by all the countries who do it right now.

They pay less and get better care than we do

If that is true for America, then surely you can point something with specificity that demonstrates what corporations pay now for healthcare in taxes and regulations vs what they would pay under a universal health care scheme. You can't just say "Sweden does it" and expect it to work here. You want to be taken seriously? Support your argument with specificity, logic and reason.

This chart proves it.

File:Total health expenditure per capita, US Dollars PPP.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No, it really doesn't. That we pay more for healthcare than the other nations listed on your chart does not prove we will pay less under the scheme you're advocating. You're going to have to do a lot more work than that to support your argument.

 

[Truthmatters]

what was the republican plan.

I heard some chanting of let them die during a republican debate

 

[Truthmatters]

If that is true for America, then surely you can point something with specificity that demonstrates what corporations pay now for healthcare in taxes and regulations vs what they would pay under a universal health care scheme. You can't just say "Sweden does it" and expect it to work here. You want to be taken seriously? Support your argument with specificity, logic and reason.

This chart proves it.

File:Total health expenditure per capita, US Dollars PPP.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No, it really doesn't. That we pay more for healthcare than the other nations listed on your chart does not prove we will pay less under the scheme you're advocating. You're going to have to do a lot more work than that to support your argument.

YES it does.

It cost alot less when you take the PROFIT SCHEME our of the equation.

THAT IS FACT!

 

[syrenn]

This one sticks in your craw huh?


Not one of these clowns can deal with facts.

why do you people hate American corporations?

Universal health care - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sometimes the health funds are derived from a mixture of insurance premiums, salary related mandatory contributions by employees and/or employers to regulated sickness funds, and by government taxes. These insurance based systems tend to reimburse private or public medical providers, often at heavily regulated rates, through mutual or publicly owned medical insurers. A few countries such as the Netherlands and Switzerland operate via privately owned but heavily regulated private insurers that are not allowed to make a profit from the mandatory element of insurance but can profit by selling supplemental insurance.

Universal health care is a broad concept that has been implemented in several ways. The common denominator for all such programs is some form of government action aimed at extending access to health care as widely as possible and setting minimum standards. Most implement universal health care through legislation, regulation and taxation. Legislation and regulation direct what care must be provided, to whom, and on what basis. Usually some costs are borne by the patient at the time of consumption but the bulk of costs come from a combination of compulsory insurance and tax revenues

And BTW anybody can be a "corporation", even one person, so all "corporations" are going to be taxed in some way to pay for this. How else is the government going to get the money? Grow it on trees?

pay everyone paying.

everyone needs healthcare.

everyone should pay.


That is what universal healthcare does.


why spoend so many dollars making sure someone makes a profit when the sysstem is unsustainable because of a need for profit?

liar.....


only a few will pay.