Fox Wars

[WillowTree]

Main Entry: Marx·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈmärk-ˌsi-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1887
: the political, economic, and social principles and policies advocated by Marx; especially : a theory and practice of socialism including the labor theory of value, dialectical materialism, the class struggle, and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society

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Sounds like Obama to me.

Hmm, so Obama has had the government take over the means of production for the entire country??? Wow, that's interesting.

And Obama has taken the profits from said means of production and redistributed it to the proletariat? Really interesting.

As far as I can tell, Mr Obama has had the government take control of ONE company, GM, and that was in the direst of circumstances, imminent bankruptcy.

This makes Obama a "Marxist"? Wow, that's quite a statement.

Does this also make him a "Stalinist", as Hannity called him?

so what do you think his agenda is? Based on those he surrounds himself with? Based on his own words?

 

[Annie]

6 months does not equal 1 month. He did not sue for firing, he sued for not being given air time on 60 minutes:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/20/business/media/20cbs.html?pagewanted=print

From your link:

Mr. Rather, 75, asserts that the network violated his contract by giving him insufficient airtime on “60 Minutes” after forcing him to step down as anchor of the “CBS Evening News” in March 2005.

In other words, CBS forced him to retire, which he did a month after the incident, and then didn't let him back on the air after his actual date of retirement.

Sounds like getting "Fired" to me... 'Course I guess I just don't understand all this media stuff...

Yet that wasn't the lawsuit, the facetime was. Also, it was 6 months, not 1 month before he was off the news.

 

[WillowTree]

Here's the deal. Other than attack Fox News, the left cannot defend the radicals that are now in the wh. They are radicals and no amount of pussy footing around is going to polish that image.

attempts have been made but they fail

calling the opposition
traitors, extremists, seditious, racist, southern, biased, and illegitimate ain't working out for you huh boys?

 

[Vast LWC]

Hmm, so Obama has had the government take over the means of production for the entire country??? Wow, that's interesting.

And Obama has taken the profits from said means of production and redistributed it to the proletariat? Really interesting.

As far as I can tell, Mr Obama has had the government take control of ONE company, GM, and that was in the direst of circumstances, imminent bankruptcy.

This makes Obama a "Marxist"? Wow, that's quite a statement.

Does this also make him a "Stalinist", as Hannity called him?

Please feel free to send us a link or a quote where Mr Obama expounds on his plan to take over manufacturing and production and turn the US into a communist state.

I'm sure it must be out there, since it's so obvious, right?



so what do you think his agenda is? Based on those he surrounds himself with? Based on his own words?[/QUOTE]

 

[Vast LWC]

Yet that wasn't the lawsuit, the facetime was. Also, it was 6 months, not 1 month before he was off the news.

OK, let's say all that is true. Was he forced off the air (aka fired), or not?

Now, when was the last time that happened on FoxNews for someone giving false information on the air in an opinion show?

 

[WillowTree]

Oh, I don't know claims like:

"Obama is a Nazi." - Glenn Beck

"Obama is a Stalinist." - Sean Hannity

"Obama is a racist with a deep seated hatred of white people" - Glenn Beck

"The Health Care Plan is a plot to bring Nazi Eugenics to America". - Glenn Beck

"The National Debt is a plot by the Obama administration to increase the power of the executive branch in an attempt to turn America into a Totalitarian State" - That fat black guy from Fox Business Channel

Do you need more?

And just because these claims are made on "Opinion" shows, doesn't mean that FoxNews isnt' still making the claims.

They do not run any retractions, do they?

What is it about obamalama that makes you think he is not a Marxist?

Reality.

like what for instance?

 

[Vast LWC]

Here's the deal. Other than attack Fox News, the left cannot defend the radicals that are now in the wh. They are radicals and no amount of pussy footing around is going to polish that image.

attempts have been made but they fail

calling the opposition
traitors, extremists, seditious, racist, southern, biased, and illegitimate ain't working out for you huh boys?

Blah, blah, radicals, blah, blah, left-wing conspiracy.

But no proof.

Fail.

 

[WillowTree]

Hmm, so Obama has had the government take over the means of production for the entire country??? Wow, that's interesting.

And Obama has taken the profits from said means of production and redistributed it to the proletariat? Really interesting.

As far as I can tell, Mr Obama has had the government take control of ONE company, GM, and that was in the direst of circumstances, imminent bankruptcy.

This makes Obama a "Marxist"? Wow, that's quite a statement.

Does this also make him a "Stalinist", as Hannity called him?

Please feel free to send us a link or a quote where Mr Obama expounds on his plan to take over manufacturing and production and turn the US into a communist state.

I'm sure it must be out there, since it's so obvious, right?



so what do you think his agenda is? Based on those he surrounds himself with? Based on his own words?

[/QUOTE]



Look up above ya asswipe. You have me quoted as saying something someone else said. And you have the balls to challenge me to prove something I did not say! Ya wanna fix that? or are ya gonna live with the humiliation?

 

[Vast LWC]

Look up above ya asswipe. You have me quoted as saying something someone else said. And you have the balls to challenge me to prove something I did not say! Ya wanna fix that? or are ya gonna live with the humiliation?

As I thought.

 

[WillowTree]

Here's the deal. Other than attack Fox News, the left cannot defend the radicals that are now in the wh. They are radicals and no amount of pussy footing around is going to polish that image.

attempts have been made but they fail

calling the opposition
traitors, extremists, seditious, racist, southern, biased, and illegitimate ain't working out for you huh boys?

Blah, blah, radicals, blah, blah, left-wing conspiracy.

But no proof.

Fail.

translation: can't answer the question? "how's that working out for you huh boys."

 

[WillowTree]

Look up above ya asswipe. You have me quoted as saying something someone else said. And you have the balls to challenge me to prove something I did not say! Ya wanna fix that? or are ya gonna live with the humiliation?

As I thought.

you don't think, otherwise you would not misquote me. and so how can we expect you to discern good or poor news! sadly, we cannot. Kerry on.

 

[Annie]

Yet that wasn't the lawsuit, the facetime was. Also, it was 6 months, not 1 month before he was off the news.

OK, let's say all that is true. Was he forced off the air (aka fired), or not?

Now, when was the last time that happened on FoxNews for someone giving false information on the air in an opinion show?

There isn't a like situation with Rather and FOX, as was already shown on another thread. You are just spinning.

BTW, it's not 'let's say all that is true...', it is true.

 

[Big Black Dog]

I like for my news broadcasters to get on the air and simply state the facts. I am a smart enough guy to make up my own opinion about issues and I don't need somebody else to tell me what I should be thinking. Just tell me what happened in the good old who, what, when, where and why format. I'll figure the rest out by myself. Fox isn't a perfect news network but their ratings are the highest because in my opinion they are the only news channel that even comes close to reporting the news in a responsible way. The other news channels are only cheer leaders for Obama and the Democratic party.

 

[WillowTree]

I like for my news broadcasters to get on the air and simply state the facts. I am a smart enough guy to make up my own opinion about issues and I don't need somebody else to tell me what I should be thinking. Just tell me what happened in the good old who, what, when, where and why format. I'll figure the rest out by myself. Fox isn't a perfect news network but their ratings are the highest because in my opinion they are the only news channel that even comes close to reporting the news in a responsible way. The other news channels are only cheer leaders for Obama and the Democratic party.

 

[Vast LWC]

There isn't a like situation with Rather and FOX, as was already shown on another thread. You are just spinning.

BTW, it's not 'let's say all that is true...', it is true.

Dan Rather was removed from CBS because he based a report on an opinion program about the President of the United States on false evidence.

You're right though, there is no comparison, because Fox does this every single night, and thinks nothing of it.

That's because CBS has some journalistic integrity, while FoxNews lacks even an ounce of it.

 

[Vast LWC]

I like for my news broadcasters to get on the air and simply state the facts. I am a smart enough guy to make up my own opinion about issues and I don't need somebody else to tell me what I should be thinking. Just tell me what happened in the good old who, what, when, where and why format. I'll figure the rest out by myself. Fox isn't a perfect news network but their ratings are the highest because in my opinion they are the only news channel that even comes close to reporting the news in a responsible way. The other news channels are only cheer leaders for Obama and the Democratic party.

Their ratings are 'highest' for their OPINION shows, not for their news shows.

 

[Annie]

I like for my news broadcasters to get on the air and simply state the facts. I am a smart enough guy to make up my own opinion about issues and I don't need somebody else to tell me what I should be thinking. Just tell me what happened in the good old who, what, when, where and why format. I'll figure the rest out by myself. Fox isn't a perfect news network but their ratings are the highest because in my opinion they are the only news channel that even comes close to reporting the news in a responsible way. The other news channels are only cheer leaders for Obama and the Democratic party.

Their ratings are 'highest' for their OPINION shows, not for their news shows.

Once again, you lie:

Cable News Ratings for Wednesday, September 2, 2009 - TV Ratings, Nielsen Ratings, Television Show Ratings | TVbytheNumbers.com

Cable News Ratings: Fox News Remains Dominant - 2009-10-27 14:36:12 EDT | Broadcasting & Cable

Cable News Ratings: Fox News Remains Dominant
CNN slips to fourth in weeknight prime demo

By Marisa Guthrie -- Broadcasting & Cable, 10/27/2009 2:36:12 PM


CNN slipped to fourth in primetime at 7, 8 and 10 p.m. among cable news networks in the key sales demographic for the month of October, Nielsen data showed. The meager showing in primetime marks a decline of 78% in the demo compared to October 2008, when the election was juicing cable news numbers across the board.

October 2008 was a particularly strong month leading into last year's election. As such, all networks showed year-to-year declines in total viewers and news' target sales demographic of 25-54-year-olds. MSNBC is down 63% in the primetime demo while Fox News Channel was off 36% and HLN and CNBC were each down 29%. But CNN was also down 22% from its October 2007 prime demo average.

In primetime (Mon-Sun 8-11 p.m.), CNN averaged 664,000 viewers with 186,000 in the demo. That was just enough to edge out its cable sibling HLN in the demo (185,000). HLN also finished fourth in total viewers with 513,000. But for weekday prime, CNN was down to fourth in the demo (202,000 viewers) compared to perennial leader Fox News Channel (689,000), MSNBC (250,000) and HLN (221,000).

Fox News remained dominant across all day-parts. In primetime (Mon-Sun, 8-11 p.m.), Fox News averaged 2.1 million viewers with 560,000 in the demo. MSNBC was second with 699,000 viewers, 234,000 in the demo followed by CNN and HLN.

Fox News has also been aided by the White House’s strategy to de-legitimize the network. The administration’s battle with Fox News was the fifth most covered story for the week ended Oct. 25 accounting for 15% of the news hole, according to the Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism weekly coverage index. The economic crisis was first followed by Afghanistan, the health care debate and swine flu. The network is up 9% in total viewers and up 14% in the demo since the feud started three weeks ago.

Fox News also had all ten of the top-ten shows in cable news in both the demo and total viewers led by The O’Reilly Factor (3.3 million viewers, 875,000 in the demo), Glenn Beck (2.7 million viewers, 712,000 in the demo), Hannity (2.3 million, 659,000 in the demo) and On the Record with Greta Van Susteren (1.9 million, 533,000 in the demo).

MSNBC notched second place finishes in most of the key week-night prime-time hours. At 7 p.m., Hardball with Chris Matthews was second in the time slot averaging 649,000 viewers with 182,000 in the demo. HLN’s Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell out-rated CNN’s Lou Dobbs Tonight in the demo (168,000 to 163,000) while Dobbs prevailed among total viewers (631,000 to 462,000).

Fox Report with Shepard Smith was the most-watched program at 7 p.m. with 1.9 million viewers and 463,000 in the demo.

At 8 p.m., MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann bested HLN’s Nancy Grace, among total viewers (1 million to 830,000) and the demo (294,000 to 269,000), while CNN’s Campbell Brown was stuck in fourth among total viewers (648,000) and the demo (161,000).

The O’Reilly Factor was the top-rated cable news program in the 8 p.m. hour for the 107th consecutive month.

At 9 p.m., MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show bested CNN’s Larry King Live in total viewers (880,000 to 842,000) and the demo (246,000 to 224,000). That was enough for a third-place finish for LKL against HLN’s newest entry, The Joy Behar Show which averaged 535,000 total viewers and 183,000 in the demo. Fox News' Hannity was the top-rated program for the hour.

At 10 p.m., Anderson Cooper 360 dropped to fourth in the demo (210,000) against reruns of Nancy Grace (222,000) and Countdown (218,000).

 

[Vast LWC]

Psst, nothing you put in there makes me a "liar".

First of all, the study didn't include any news programs from the non-cable, non-24-hour, major networks, WHICH ARE ON AT 6:00, but instead only included statistics from 24-Hour News networks, and then only after 7:00.

Duh.

Oh, and all the prime-time shows that were highest-rated are what? Say it with me, OPINION SHOWS.

 

[Annie]

Psst, nothing you put in there makes me a "liar".

First of all, the study didn't include any news programs from the major networks, WHICH ARE ON AT 6:00, only from 24-Hour News networks, and then only after 7:00.

Duh.

Oh, and all the prime-time shows that were highest-rated are what? Say it with me, OPINION SHOWS.

Blah, blah. Now you're switching to apples and oranges. On that, it's a matter of time. May not be FOX but the 'networks' are dinosaurs.

 

[WillowTree]

Psst, nothing you put in there makes me a "liar".

First of all, the study didn't include any news programs from the major networks, WHICH ARE ON AT 6:00, only from 24-Hour News networks, and then only after 7:00.

Duh.

Oh, and all the prime-time shows that were highest-rated are what? Say it with me, OPINION SHOWS.

you are a liar. You quoted me as saying something I did not say and haven't bothered to correct it. You, sir, are a liar.