Four Big Bangs Equal Four Huge Problems For Materialists/Atheists

[Fort Fun Indiana]

“But this ‘singularity’ was a something, not a nothing. So it doesn’t answer the question of why is there something, whatever we choose to call it, rather than nothing?”

The something this singularity was IS energy, and it has been proven that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. So there never was nothing and there never will be nothing.

Sorry, that argument is no longer valid, as scientists are now led to believe that the net energy of our universe is zero.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Hmmm. Dimensional concepts are too much for you, eh?

Try reading "Flatland". It's a real simple read, presented in elementary fashion.

Another book of fiction that you get your "science" from?

Most literate people know "Flatland".

Flatland - Wikipedia

I was right, a book of fiction. Got any real proof?

A book of fiction that explains multiple dimensions in laymen's terms. The same way Nineteen Eighty-Four explained an unbridled socialist state.

Well, there's never been a state like the one described in 1984.

Precisely? No. But it was heavily modeled after the Stalinist Soviet Union, with some science-fiction aspects to dress it up.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Study the ancient worlds. Religion in most respects was the science of its time.

Haha, right....just as a horse was the car of its time. But a horse is not a car, could never be a substitute for a car, and was only used because people were too ignorant to develop cars.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Establishing that something cannot arise from nothing is reason enough to speculate upon what would cause existence to come into existence without the existence of the raw materials of existence. It would seem a certain intelligent intent would be required.

If there was such a thing as nothing, but there is no such thing as nothing. Even a vacuum contains something.

What does a vacuum contain?

Photons and other high energy particles.

Where did they come from?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Wrong. A perfect vacuum contains nothing.

Scientists now know this is false as well. You really aren't keeping up with modern science.

 

[Weatherman2020]

lol.right you are mr. simple.

And its not because I haven't answered your simple questions, your simple mind can't grasp the answers. Sheesh, you can't seem to grasp anyones answers and keep asking the same simple questions as if you were truly brain damaged.


I would actually feel sorry for you if not for your charming disposition.

Just because someone like you gives me a cockamamy answer don't end my quest for the real truth. I understand what people are saying to me, I simply don't agree because it's not logical what people tell me. And so you all get upset at me for debunking your answers and call me names. So not only are you not logical, but your infantile.

Infantile? I'm not the guy who thinks that asking about anal sex, cum dribbles, kangaroos, and gay Jesus are simple intelligent questions.

Thats not just infantile. You are a low class vulgarian with nothing better to do than try and shock people by demonstrating just how low you can stoop.

Ok, so you have a better explanation for how a woman could get pregnant 2000 years ago and still be a virgin? Go for it, I'll wait.

Or can you not look at things objectively and discuss them calmly? By your last response, I'd guess "no".

As for roos, that's a valid question. And gay Jesus, well, the signs point to "yes". And I don't have a problem with that, but you sure seem to!

Childish rants straight of of the dumbass atheist book.

So how did Noah get kangaroos from Australia and back again afterwards? Let me guess, a worldwide flood doesn't mean it was worldwide, just regional. Or, it's all allegorical and doesn't mean anything near what's written. Or it was god's magic?

A. More than enough water above and below ground to cover the earth.
B. How can you create ice on a 90 degree summer day without electricity? Evaporation.
C. What happens in a world covered in ice? Shores are connected.
D. Who claims the land masses are the same before and after the flood?

So tell me what’s the downside to a belief in God?

Don’t give me examples of misuse for power, science has been misused. And don’t give me its anti science, some of the greatest minds acknowledge the existence of God.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Study the ancient worlds. Religion in most respects was the science of its time.

Haha, right....just as a horse was the car of it's time. But a horse is not a car, could never be a substitute for a car, and was only used because people were too ignorant to develop cars.

A horse goes from point "A" to point "B", and is intelligent.

A car just does it faster, and is only as intelligent as its driver.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I nor the OP claimed proof of 100%. It offers proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

Ok, so you don't claim it to be the actual truth. Like I said, a theory and that's cool. I like to check out different ideas.

No, you won’t. God terrifies you.

Why would that be? He a judgemental prick or something?

You tell me. The fact you immediately jumped to being held to a standard in your life pretty much answers it.

You're the one who made the claim, you tell me. And where did you get you second sentence? When did I say what?

You called God a judgmental prick. Goes without saying that’s your biggest problem.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A. More than enough water above and below ground to cover the earth.

You literally just made this up.

B. How can you create ice on a 90 degree summer day without electricity? Evaporation.

And how can you create evaporated on a 90 degree summer day, leaving ise? You have to use a massage. Might as well just skip the stupid and buy an ice maker.

C. What happens in a world covered in ice? Shores are connected.

At no point in human history was the world covered in ice. This is a known fact.

D. Who claims the land masses are the same before and after the flood?

Dumb question...there was no global flood, nor have land land masses remained the same.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Study the ancient worlds. Religion in most respects was the science of its time.

Haha, right....just as a horse was the car of it's time. But a horse is not a car, could never be a substitute for a car, and was only used because people were too ignorant to develop cars.

A horse goes from point "A" to point "B", and is intelligent.

A car just does it faster, and is only as intelligent as its driver.

Well that's adorable, but it is still no substitute for a car. Just as ancient magical bullshit is no substitute for scientific method. Religion was the "science" of its time because people were ignorant. That's not any praise for religion.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Hmmm. Dimensional concepts are too much for you, eh?

Try reading "Flatland". It's a real simple read, presented in elementary fashion.

Another book of fiction that you get your "science" from?

Most literate people know "Flatland".

Flatland - Wikipedia

I was right, a book of fiction. Got any real proof?

A book of fiction that explains multiple dimensions in laymen's terms. The same way Nineteen Eighty-Four explained an unbridled socialist state.

Well, there's never been a state like the one described in 1984. So I get your point, you have nothing.

Soviet Union was pretty close.

 

[edthecynic]

Establishing that something cannot arise from nothing is reason enough to speculate upon what would cause existence to come into existence without the existence of the raw materials of existence. It would seem a certain intelligent intent would be required.

If there was such a thing as nothing, but there is no such thing as nothing. Even a vacuum contains something.

What does a vacuum contain?

Photons and other high energy particles.

Wrong. A perfect vacuum contains nothing.

There is no such thing as nothing.
And there is no such thing as a perfect vacuum.

 

[edthecynic]

"rules of existence"?

All things have an origin.

Energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

So current science indicates.

Of course, your science once said that the earth was flat and rode upon the backs of elephants supported by a giant turtle.

Science never said that, but religion DID!

Study the ancient worlds. Religion in most respects was the science of its time.

Religion is NEVER science.

 

[edthecynic]

Another book of fiction that you get your "science" from?

Most literate people know "Flatland".

Flatland - Wikipedia

I was right, a book of fiction. Got any real proof?

A book of fiction that explains multiple dimensions in laymen's terms. The same way Nineteen Eighty-Four explained an unbridled socialist state.

Well, there's never been a state like the one described in 1984. So I get your point, you have nothing.

Soviet Union was pretty close.

TrumpWorld is much closer.

 

[Weatherman2020]

A. More than enough water above and below ground to cover the earth.

You literally just made this up.

B. How can you create ice on a 90 degree summer day without electricity? Evaporation.

And how can you create evaporated on a 90 degree summer day, leaving ise? You have to use a massage. Might as well just skip the stupid and buy an ice maker.

C. What happens in a world covered in ice? Shores are connected.

At no point in human history was the world covered in ice. This is a known fact.

D. Who claims the land masses are the same before and after the flood?

Dumb question...there was no global flood, nor have land land masses remained the same.

A. Likely an underground river right under your feet.
B. Educate yourself on the science of making ice without electricity.
C. No one claimed the entire earth was covered in ice.
D. Of course there was a global flood.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Most literate people know "Flatland".

Flatland - Wikipedia

I was right, a book of fiction. Got any real proof?

A book of fiction that explains multiple dimensions in laymen's terms. The same way Nineteen Eighty-Four explained an unbridled socialist state.

Well, there's never been a state like the one described in 1984. So I get your point, you have nothing.

Soviet Union was pretty close.

TrumpWorld is much closer.

Flee to Venezuela while you still can.

 

[Weatherman2020]

All things have an origin.

Energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

So current science indicates.

Of course, your science once said that the earth was flat and rode upon the backs of elephants supported by a giant turtle.

Science never said that, but religion DID!

Study the ancient worlds. Religion in most respects was the science of its time.

Religion is NEVER science.

From Newton to the greatest minds today, they know God invented science.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

B. Educate yourself on the science of making ice without electricity.

No, you educate us. Tell me how to get ice outside on a 90 degree day, using evaporation. We're all ears, professor. Remember, no machines allowed. Your attempted bait and switch with "electricity" notwithstanding.

C. No one claimed the entire earth was covered in ice.

Okay, then say it: "The world was never, in the history of man, covered with ice."

Go on, state it .

D. Of course there was a global flood.

We know this is false, as much as we know anything. You are simply resorting to magic, which disqualifies you from any rational discussion of the topic.

 

[edthecynic]

“But this ‘singularity’ was a something, not a nothing. So it doesn’t answer the question of why is there something, whatever we choose to call it, rather than nothing?”

The something this singularity was IS energy, and it has been proven that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. So there never was nothing and there never will be nothing.

Sorry, that argument is no longer valid, as scientists are now led to believe that the net energy of our universe is zero.

So you are saying that at this very moment there is ZERO energy in the universe.
You sound like Ding now, and that's not good.

The scientists who say that the net energy is zero are not saying that energy will equal nothing, they are saying that there are equal AMOUNTS of gravitational energy and matter in balance, two somethings.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Establishing that something cannot arise from nothing is reason enough to speculate upon what would cause existence to come into existence without the existence of the raw materials of existence. It would seem a certain intelligent intent would be required.

If there was such a thing as nothing, but there is no such thing as nothing. Even a vacuum contains something.

What does a vacuum contain?

Photons and other high energy particles.

Wrong. A perfect vacuum contains nothing.

There is no such thing as nothing.
And there is no such thing as a perfect vacuum.

Of course there’s no such thing as a perfect vacuum. God filled it with matter and energy.