For Those Who Don't Understand What Occupy is REALLY About (Obviously LOTS of you)

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  1. IndependntLogic
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    I guess a lot of people here just believe what the MSM and Right Wing E-media
    tell them. This would be the only explanation for some of the posts I've seen.
    So I thought I'd help! Here is a C&P from a great OWS site. It will give you
    guys a better idea of why you should support us! Here ya go:

    "1. We don't want to End Capitalism, We Want to End Corporatacracy.

    First, let's make it clear, This is a political movement, not an economic
    revolt. We want to end the control of our government by Multi-National
    Corporations. This is Issue Number One for everyone I've spoken to in Occupy
    Wall Street.

    Not one Occupier I know of, wants to turn us into the former Soviet Union (although just like the TP, every movement has it's fringe and the MSM loves to find them). We
    don't want to end the economic system which allows people to buy the goods of
    their choice. But we do want to end a corrupt political system which allows
    Multi-National Corporations to buy the politicians of their choice. So the
    single most important theme is Taking control of our government away from
    Corporations and putting it back into the hands of We the People.

    2. We won't tolerate a government that rewards corporate incompetence, greed and
    fraud. No More Bank Bailouts.

    The banks bought our government and then, after they lined their pockets with
    the wealth of our nation, they blackmailed the government into giving them even
    MORE money "In order to keep the economy from collapsing". Right. Then, instead
    of making or refinancing home loans, Bank of America, Chase, Wells Fargo and
    others spent our money on business mergers & acquisitions to benefit the 1%. Oh,
    and of course, they paid themselves million dollar bonuses with our money.

    We want to set a deadline for payback of existing bailouts. Any company that has
    not fully repaid all monies by the deadline, should be broken up so that they
    are no longer "too big to fail".

    3. We want the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed immediately.
    For those of you unfamiliar with it: After the Great Depression, congress passed
    the Glass-Steagal act to make sure that banks would never take stupid risks or
    use corrupt practices to send the country into another Depression. Then 60 years
    later, the banks and companies that bought and paid for Republican Senators Bill
    Gramm, Jim Leach and Tom Bliley told them that Glass-Steagal was interfering
    with their ability to swindle the American Public. Their masters told these
    senators to pass a bill that would NOT ONLY allow them to gamble foolishly again
    with American Tax-Payer money - they wanted complete control of our Financial
    System by being able OWN both stock brokerages and Insurance Companies too.
    Then, once their cohorts completed the creation of what's called a "FIRE
    Economy" (an economy based on Finance, Insurance & Real Estate) in America, they
    would control everything.

    Of course the Senators bowed to their masters and Gramm-Leach-Bliley was passed
    with a super-majority that was veto-proof. If it had not been passed, NOT ONE
    BANK would have needed bailout money because they would have been prohibited
    from investing in the Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities Market.

    Some people say we should let "The Market" regulate itself. Are the Banksters
    worthy of the trust that was given to them under this law? Here's an example:
    Citibank is on trial right now.
    While they were selling over $500 MILLION dollars worth of those
    toxic mortgage securities to the 99% as a good investment, they were betting the
    securities would fail by "Short-Selling" at the same time. In other words, while
    they sold your parents these securities for their retirement, they made a bet
    the securities would fail - and earned over $140M dollars by doing so. Citibank
    is currently offering to pay back about half the money they defrauded out of
    regular people as long as no one from the bank goes to jail or even loses their
    job. Guess what? The government is going for it. Why? Because the 1% doesn't
    have to pay for their crimes. We do. In this case, WE'RE paying their $285M fee
    with the bailout money they were given. And people wonder why we're mad."

    That's just a small part of the REAL message of OWS. it's a little bit different
    than what the SpinDoctors of the MSM and Right Wing media talk about or allow
    you to see, isn't it?

    The Whole World is watching and listening to our message. Foreign stations give more accurate coverage than FOX - who still spews BS about wanting Socialism and anarchy.

    Here is an example of the more accurate foreign coverage of our message:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZweJI66e1U]Occupy Wall Street Exposes Enormous Corruption Between Government and Corporations - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    why didn't you mention unions and their ability to buy demoncrat politicians? inquiring minds wanna know.
     
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    tell us what you demand of fannie and freddiy? they owe us 187 billion dollars and they want more at the same time they want their ceo's to get millions in bonus money.. why don't you tell us about them?
     
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    I don't waste time reading bullshit that starts with "I guess".... don't fucking 'guess', educate yourself and understand. You make a mockery of your username... but we are used to that with certain other idiotic lying hacks who pretend that the truth matters.

    Fucking idiot.
     
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    I tend to believe people when they say they want to overthrow the government and have no problem being violent to do so. It's safer that way.
     
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    Now, let someone go and ask those Occupiers what they stand for and see how many mention anything you said, lol. We'll wait until they're sober.
     
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    You might want to try educating your own self about the standard usages of the English language, which includes expressing uncertainty when uncertainty exists, as it MUST about the reasons why someone holds a particular opinion. Thus, one should properly say "I guess a lot of people here just believe what the MSM and Right Wing E-media tell them," rather than "A lot of people here just believe what the MSM and Right Wing E-media tell them." The first is a valid statement based on the poster's knowledge, the second is not.

    Here is another valid statement based on the poster's knowledge: "To use a quirk of language usage as an excuse to dismiss an entire line of reasoning is a cheap shot and a sign that the person doing so is not to be taken seriously."
     
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    "I guess" my questions won't be answered. "I guess."
     
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    Ahh. You display as much class as ever. And the same level of intellect too! Well, you're amusing anyway.
    Okay, here's something I don't have to guess about. You're willfully ignorant. You're a mindless brain-controlled drone who is such a coward, you can't ever acknowledge any view which contradicts those fed to that little brain of yours, by your Thought-Masters. You're weak and stupid and easily led - which is what The Machines - both Left & Right, count on when they look for sheeple to blindly follow them.
    Oh, and yes you started reading the thread but stopped the moment you got to "We don't want to end capitlaism" because it went against what you have been programmed to believe.
    There. I didn't guess. Feel better sweetie? Good!
     
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    Unions buying Democratic politicians wasn't mentioned because Democrats, like Republicans, are bought by corporations, not unions.

    Fannie and Freddy are trivial compared to the corruption of our elected and supposedly democratic government by corporate money.

    There. Happy now?
     

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