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You don’t think it’s obvious that these Marxist democrats like yourself are so concerned with allegations against trump from forty-plus years ago suddenly become worthy of interest after he becomes potus?I wish I had a dollar for every time a member of The Following had to retreat to the last line of defense, stating Trump has not yet been convicted of a crime. Neither has Hillary, who has never been indicted by a grand jury, but that doesn't stop you folks from claiming she broke the law.
As far as I am aware Hillary never had to pay a $2M fine for stealing money from a charity. Never was ordered to pay a total of $88.3M after a jury determined she raped someone. Never agreed to pay $25M to settle a fraud case. Never settled with the DoJ in a race discrimination suit. Has not been sued hundreds of times for unethical/illegal behavior. Has not been found guilty of fraud in the state of NY. Does not have 91 pending counts of criminal behavior awaiting trial in numerous jurisdictions.
I'm speaking to my fellow progressives when I make this observation.
It is painfully apparent the unfounded, as I write this, allegations of corruption made about Joe Biden with respect to his son are now permanently part of the conservative lexicon. No amount of refutation has in any way diminished their blind devotion to it. They're all in.
This phenomenon is hardly unique. We see other examples of it all the time. Everything from bamboo in the ballots to Fast and Furious to Crossfire Hurricane to "Obama is a Muslim" and everything in between. Endless posts with irrefutable factual content laying to waste the falsehoods they've adopted break like waves on a seawall. Their beliefs are as impenetrable as they are intransigent.
I don't believe progressives have cornered the market on the truth. Nor do I believe everything that is part of the liberal lexicon is wholly, factually, accurate. But I can find no liberal equivalence to the pervasive belief on the part of Repubs in the Big Lie. Or the extent to which conspiracy theories are central to their narratives.
Nearly 700 days later, most Republicans still believe Trump’s big lie
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ost-republicans-still-believe-trumps-big-lie/
What can be done? Persist. Persist in the hope that even if they can not bring themselves to admit it on this forum they will come to know the facts. Persist in the hope we can someday have constructive conversations over issues with which we disagree without having to argue about the color of the sky. Persist in the hope we can eventually move past the vitriol and work, TOGETHER, to address the nation's very consequential problems. IMO, Repubs have lost their way. We must remain hopeful they will find it again or all is lost.
Unless it turns out to be true.Once debunked they SHOULD. Be dismissed.
It's a message board. That's social media.If you say so. I've been on message boards before shitholes like FakeBook and Twatter ever even existed. Not the same.
I guess I don't believe the level of anonymity on an obscure message board is equivalent to that of FakeBook or Twatter social media platform. People give up their complete anonymity using these current social media platforms. It would be stupid to equate them.It's a message board. That's social media.
Did you actually read the article or did you just read the clickbsot headline? All it says is that a lab leak is a possibility which we’ve always known.
What it does not say, is that a lab leak happened or that they believe that a lab leak happened.
If the left has “zero interest in working with anybody”, how had Biden managed to pass SO MUCH major legislation since he was elected with only 51 votes in the Senate????
Fast & Furious and Operation Crossfire Hurricane didn't happen? The Bidens aren't corrupt? With all due respect, Berg? You on the left have a bad habit of lying about things and then whining about it when your lies are exposed!I'm speaking to my fellow progressives when I make this observation.
It is painfully apparent the unfounded, as I write this, allegations of corruption made about Joe Biden with respect to his son are now permanently part of the conservative lexicon. No amount of refutation has in any way diminished their blind devotion to it. They're all in.
This phenomenon is hardly unique. We see other examples of it all the time. Everything from bamboo in the ballots to Fast and Furious to Crossfire Hurricane to "Obama is a Muslim" and everything in between. Endless posts with irrefutable factual content laying to waste the falsehoods they've adopted break like waves on a seawall. Their beliefs are as impenetrable as they are intransigent.
I don't believe progressives have cornered the market on the truth. Nor do I believe everything that is part of the liberal lexicon is wholly, factually, accurate. But I can find no liberal equivalence to the pervasive belief on the part of Repubs in the Big Lie. Or the extent to which conspiracy theories are central to their narratives.
Nearly 700 days later, most Republicans still believe Trump’s big lie
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ost-republicans-still-believe-trumps-big-lie/
What can be done? Persist. Persist in the hope that even if they can not bring themselves to admit it on this forum they will come to know the facts. Persist in the hope we can someday have constructive conversations over issues with which we disagree without having to argue about the color of the sky. Persist in the hope we can eventually move past the vitriol and work, TOGETHER, to address the nation's very consequential problems. IMO, Repubs have lost their way. We must remain hopeful they will find it again or all is lost.
Fast & Furious and Operation Crossfire Hurricane didn't happen? The Bidens aren't corrupt? With all due respect, Berg? You on the left have a bad habit of lying about things and then whining about it when your lies are exposed!
You say we need to move past the vitriol in a post that spews allegation of a "Big Lie". That we need to come together to fix the nation's problems? The biggest problem the American people see right now is the border. That's something that Joe Biden could have fixed long ago with Executive Orders. Why hasn't he?
Fast & Furious and Operation Crossfire Hurricane didn't happen? The Bidens aren't corrupt? With all due respect, Berg? You on the left have a bad habit of lying about things and then whining about it when your lies are exposed!
You say we need to move past the vitriol in a post that spews allegation of a "Big Lie". That we need to come together to fix the nation's problems? The biggest problem the American people see right now is the border. That's something that Joe Biden could have fixed long ago with Executive Orders. Why hasn't he?
Then don't.I really don't want to get bogged down once again refuting subjects that have already been debunked.
The Bill in the Senate would be a solution to your “open borders” complaints.All Biden had to do was return the situation to where President Trump had it.
Why hasn't he?
Because his team wants open borders.
They will deny that, the denies are lies.
Bullshit, Lesh! The fact is that Joe Biden has had the ability to secure the border all along. He opened it with Executive Orders...he could have secured it the same way. Everything that's happening now because of the 8 million illegals you on the left have let into the country is on Biden. It's simple common sense that you can't have an entitlement society and open borders because you can't pay for all of the services to all of the migrants that would attract! But let's be honest...common sense isn't a liberal strong suit! So let's sit back and watch as liberal Mayors in cities like Boston, New York, Chicago, Denver, San Francisco and Los Angelos try to figure out how to pay for schooling and healthcare for all of their new "constituents"! It's gonna be a hoot!The Bill in the Senate would be a solution to your “open borders” complaints.
But you don’t actually want to solve this issue
You want the ISSUE itself
JUST shutting down the border is not a solution . Illegals will just switch to remote sections like they did under Trump when he did that.Bullshit, Lesh! The fact is that Joe Biden has had the ability to secure the border all along. He opened it with Executive Orders...he could have secured it the same way. Everything that's happening now because of the 8 million illegals you on the left have let into the country is on Biden. It's simple common sense that you can't have an entitlement society and open borders because you can't pay for all of the services to all of the migrants that would attract! But let's be honest...common sense isn't a liberal strong suit! So let's sit back and watch as liberal Mayors in cities like Boston, New York, Chicago, Denver, San Francisco and Los Angelos try to figure out how to pay for schooling and healthcare for all of their new "constituents"! It's gonna be a hoot!
Credible allegations of him sexually abusing women go back to the 1970's and continue today. Why aren't you concerned about the moral character of the potential prez?You don’t think it’s obvious that these Marxist democrats like yourself are so concerned with allegations against trump from forty-plus years ago suddenly become worthy of interest after he becomes potus?
The last month of Trump's administration illegal border crossings were down to 40K. They are now at over 10 times that amount.JUST shutting down the border is not a solution . Illegals will just switch to remote sections like they did under Trump when he did that.
This is a comprehensive solution that shuts down entry when the system becomes overwhelmed.
Trump (and by extension YOU) are against it because you want the issue… not a solution
You mean during COVID when the economy was essentially shut down and there was no work?The last month of Trump's administration illegal border crossings were down to 40K. They are now at over 10 times that amount.
You're obviously full of shit.
The last month of Trump's administration illegal border crossings were down to 40K. They are now at over 10 times that amount.
You're obviously full of shit.
Real understanding behind the 14th amendment huh Richard.
Or should I say Dick.Or maybe Dickie.
Maybe Dickie boy.
What's your point?You mean during COVID when the economy was essentially shut down and there was no work?
I made my point. They come for the jobs mostly and when there aren’t jobs… fewer comeWhat's your point?
