Explain how a Trump could ever win the WH

[amrchaos]

Easy
Democrats are running Hillary Clinton

See how Barack beat her in 2008, by coming from way behind?
See how she almost lost to a Socialist that,at one time, polled at 3%?

Now she is facing Trump, which she leads by a mere 12pts?

Excuse me, but doesn't she need a 40pt lead to ensure she can win? Seems like the record shows she is going to lose about 30pts on average to her competitor!!

I don't think you can count Trump out. Let see what things look like in August!!

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[nat4900]

MUCH less?

Not really

Well, the last poll I saw (CNN's) has Clinton's unfavorable ratings at 52% and Trump's at 67%..So you figure it out.

 

[Papageorgio]

Because of some of his positions on some social issuses and trade Trump could pull in indpendents and moderate blue collar Democrats and swing some states that normally go Democrat if he can do this and get a high enough percent of Republicans to vote for him he could pull it off. I don't think this is likely to happen but as I said on another thread one reason Trump has gotten as far as he has is because people have continually underestimated him continuning to do so could come back to bite the left.

I partially agree with you but consider this........Trump was indeed UNDER-estimated by the republican establishment, but his rise in defeating his fellow republican candidates was due to the years of pandering and lies offered to that GOP base (like the Tea sippers) by republican candidates......HOWEVER, in the national contest that formerly disenfranchised republican base will NOT be enough.

I know several Democrats that are voting Trump, they like his liberal stands. I think they are crazy but when the option is a liar such as Clinton, he looks to be a better choice.

This election has surprised me, Sanders is actually the better of the two Democratic contenders. Kasich and Rubio were better choices than Trump. Yet, it looks like the worst two on each side will be our choices.

 

[blackhawk]

Because of some of his positions on some social issuses and trade Trump could pull in indpendents and moderate blue collar Democrats and swing some states that normally go Democrat if he can do this and get a high enough percent of Republicans to vote for him he could pull it off. I don't think this is likely to happen but as I said on another thread one reason Trump has gotten as far as he has is because people have continually underestimated him continuning to do so could come back to bite the left.

I partially agree with you but consider this........Trump was indeed UNDER-estimated by the republican establishment, but his rise in defeating his fellow republican candidates was due to the years of pandering and lies offered to that GOP base (like the Tea sippers) by republican candidates......HOWEVER, in the national contest that formerly disenfranchised republican base will NOT be enough.

You need to consider this Hillary is by no means the darling of a lot of the Democratic voters out there the fact Sanders is still in this race in May of 2016 is all the proof you need to confirm this. Trump was underestimated by everyone the right, the left, the media you name it when he announced his candidacy no one gave him a chance as I said I don't think his chances of winning are good but anyone who continues to underestimate him does so at their own peril. People can agree with this or not up to them.

 

[Auld Phart]

MUCH less?

Not really

Well, the last poll I saw (CNN's) has Clinton's unfavorable ratings at 52% and Trump's at 67%..So you figure it out.

Last I saw was Trump at 62, and Hillary at 56

and, as I stated earlier, those numbers will change before November

 

[nat4900]

Easy
Democrats are running Hillary Clinton

See how Barack beat her in 2008, by coming from way behind?
See how she almost lost to a Socialist that,at one time, polled at 3%?

Now she is facing Trump, which she leads by a mere 12pts?

Excuse me, but doesn't she need a 40pt lead to ensure she can win? Seems like the record shows she is going to lose about 30pts on average to her competitor!!

I don't think you can count Trump out. Let see what things look like in August!!

True......but all you right wingers are forgetting what the O/P alluded to.......

Will Latino/Hispanics vote for Trump?
Will blacks vote for Trump?
Will pro-choice women (and men) vote for Trump?
Will the LGBT communities vote for Trump?
Will union members vote for Trump?

 

[Indeependent]

You know why Trump will lose?
Because of all the legislation Hillary has supported that has helped minorities.
Of course no such legislation exists.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Seriously folks.....How could a Trump ever win the WH with a current 60-62 % unfavorable ratings?

Bear in mind that blacks don't like him and have actually given Clinton a huge advantage over Sanders....
Also, Latino/Hispanics actually hate Trump with a passion.
Finally, the progressives, LGBT community, and advocates for raising the minimum wage would never vote for Trump.

So, the question is simple (even if you disregard the current polls that have Sanders beating Trump by 16 points and Clinton beating Trump by 13 points) ........What makes ANYONE "think" that Trump has a snowball chance in Hell???

- Bear in mind that you people immediately go to the Black vote as if you own it.
- Bear in mind that despite your statement, Latinos (aka Hispanics - I'm married to one) are voting for Trump.
- Bear in mind, you people are about to put one in the White House who stole from the White House.

It's closer than you people think.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Easy
Democrats are running Hillary Clinton

I don't think you can count Trump out. Let see what things look like in August!!

I also do not think one can count out Trump of course ...having said that
Trump is no Obama and is no Bernie Sanders...he is undisciplined and has no policy ideas ....he was able to run roughshod over the others the same way the Miami Dolphins NFL team used an unorthodox wildcat offense to defeat the New England Patriots when they had no business doing so...the success of the wild cat ended when they wrote "the book" on how to meet and defeat it ...same with Trump his wildcat rampage days are over ...he will be defined as
Woman Hater

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Seriously folks.....How could a Trump ever win the WH with a current 60-62 % unfavorable ratings?

Bear in mind that blacks don't like him and have actually given Clinton a huge advantage over Sanders....
Also, Latino/Hispanics actually hate Trump with a passion.
Finally, the progressives, LGBT community, and advocates for raising the minimum wage would never vote for Trump.

So, the question is simple (even if you disregard the current polls that have Sanders beating Trump by 16 points and Clinton beating Trump by 13 points) ........What makes ANYONE "think" that Trump has a snowball chance in Hell???

- Bear in mind that you people immediately go to the Black vote as if you own it.
- Bear in mind that despite your statement, Latinos (aka Hispanics - I'm married to one) are voting for Trump.
- Bear in mind, you people are about to put one in the White House who stole from the White House.

It's closer than you people think.

Tu estas loco en la cabeza..........
Poll: Clinton crushes Trump among Hispanics

 

[LeftofLeft]

Easy
Democrats are running Hillary Clinton

See how Barack beat her in 2008, by coming from way behind?
See how she almost lost to a Socialist that,at one time, polled at 3%?

Now she is facing Trump, which she leads by a mere 12pts?

Excuse me, but doesn't she need a 40pt lead to ensure she can win? Seems like the record shows she is going to lose about 30pts on average to her competitor!!

I don't think you can count Trump out. Let see what things look like in August!!

True......but all you right wingers are forgetting what the O/P alluded to.......

Will Latino/Hispanics vote for Trump?
Will blacks vote for Trump?
Will pro-choice women (and men) vote for Trump?
Will the LGBT communities vote for Trump?
Will union members vote for Trump?

The Individual American Voter who happens to be Latino, Black, Pro Choice, LGTB, and Union will vote for Trump.

 

[Ame®icano]

You lefties are still in denial.

He had "no chance" of beating Bush, or Rubio, or Cruz and every time he came on top.

Keep whining.

 

[Indeependent]

Easy
Democrats are running Hillary Clinton

I don't think you can count Trump out. Let see what things look like in August!!

I also do not think one can count out Trump of course ...having said that
Trump is no Obama and is no Bernie Sanders...he is undisciplined and has no policy ideas ....he was able to run roughshod over the others the same way the Miami Dolphins NFL team used an unorthodox wildcat offense to defeat the New England Patriots when they had no business doing so...the success of the wild cat ended when they wrote "the book" on how to meet and defeat it ...same with Trump his wildcat rampage days are over ...he will be defined as
Woman Hater

Complete lying bullshit.
I'll bet you haven't listened to any of his press conferences...Trump is 100% consistent from 1 conference to the next.

 

[nat4900]

YOu do realize those numbers are going to change between now and NOvember, right?

True....they could be even WORSE unfavorable ratings for Trump as he will be asked to state policies and not platitudes and sound bites.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

The Individual American Voter who happens to be Latino, Black, Pro Choice, LGTB, and Union will vote for Trump.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Well, here we are. Trump is essentially the nominee, and he's no joke. Everyone, yes everyone, made the fatal mistake of underestimating him. The question now is, how could he possibly win the White House? The same way he won the nomination.

The biggest mistake in your "deduction" is that you're not distinguishing between a primary voter and the general election electorate

Exactly NOW he'll have to come up with something more than ""he'll make america great again"

Maybe he can come up with something really heady like "Hope and Change"?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Complete lying bullshit.
I'll bet you haven't listened to any of his press conferences...Trump is 100% consistent from 1 conference to the next.

yeah sure OK...these two reports are 24 hrs apart

Trump accuses Cruz's father of helping JFK's assassin -
Trump: 'Of Course' I Don't Think Cruz's Dad Was Linked To JFK's Assassinator

He also says he did not mock reporter ...but he did

 

[Auld Phart]

YOu do realize those numbers are going to change between now and NOvember, right?

True....they could be even WORSE unfavorable ratings for Trump as he will be asked to state policies and not platitudes and sound bites.

and worse for Clinton as more of her lies come out.

Want to know who's going to win on November 8th, 2016?


read the headlines November 9th.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Maybe he can come up with something really heady like "Hope and Change"?

or "Bimbo sluts bleeding" something classy