Exactly what and why was the 2nd amendment written like it is

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    reading comprehension is not a right wing strong suit for story tellers.
     
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    What gives you that idea? What I I not comprehend? Or is it just more of your "I don't have any argument so I will just try to insult someone"?
     
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    i love to practice arguing, nothing burgers with the right wing.

    The unorganized militia does not have an uninfringed right to keep and bear Arms, when it involves the security of our free States or the Union.
     
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    Actually it does. The unorganized militia retains its OWN firearms until it is called up when it becomes the organized militia. It then uses those personal firearms in service.
     
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    That is exactly what I thought. You have nothing to say.
    YOur post is a meaningless statement.

    The 2nd amendment guarantees the individual citizen the right to keep and bear arms. The organized militia referred to in the 2nd is simply armed citizens who joined or formed a militia. The Union militias are a perfect example of this. Those armed citizens were not regulated. The militia they formed was regulated, and fought for our country.
     
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    Nobody is questioning natural rights; we are discussing who may not be Infringed, when the security of a free State is involved.
     
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    You don't know what you are talking about. Well regulated militia are also, The People.
     
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    The people are not necessarily the militia. The militia does come from the people. But until the militia is formed or called up, the people are not the militia. And so they are not regulated as a militia is.

    The simple fact is that the founding fathers saw the militia as an alternative to a huge standing army, which they disliked. Their idea was to use citizen soldiers. So there was no huge military unless it was needed, and then citizen soldiers formed and joined militia, and served. This is all clearly documented in the writings of the day.

    But your claims that the militia is perpetual is simply wrong. And the people, even those who may serve in the militia if needed, are not regulated until they join the militia.

    The SCOTUS has ruled that there can be regulations on firearms. But the people are not militia until they are needed and join/form a militia.
     
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    Yes, they are; those are the Only options available in our Second Amendment.
     
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    Wrong. The only thing mentioned as an entity, and not merely as a descriptor is the PEOPLE. The militia is merely mentioned as a reason, the PEOPLE are the only things recognized to have RIGHTS.
     

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