Exactly what and why was the 2nd amendment written like it is

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    I won't look at today. I will look at the time around 1790.

    Militia Act of 1792
    Every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball; or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch, and powder-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a pound of powder; and shall appear so armed, accoutred and provided, when called out to exercise or into service, except, that when called out on company days to exercise only, he may appear without a knapsack.

    First we need to look at who was a Citizen in 1790s. In the 1790s, ALL Blacks even free Blacks were prohibited from owning and carrying firearms. All People even whites that would not swear allegiance to the newly formed United States were prohibited from owning or carrying fire arms. Women were prohibited from owning or carrying firearms. Bonded Slaves, even whites were prohibited from owning or carrying firearms of any kind. It all pretty much boiled down that a Citizen was a Free White Male Land Owner deemed to be in good standing with the Existing Government both Stated and Federal Governments. It's been estimated that only about 8% of the population from that time met the full requirement to own, possess and carry firearms legally. Remember, more than half of the population of that time either supported the Crown or leaned heavily in that direction. The Newly Formed Colonist Government did exactly what the British Government tried to do themselves.

    There were two rebellions that made the Militia Act of 1792 to be written and adopted. The Shays Rebellion of 1786-1787 and the Whiskey Rebellion 1791-1794. While neither amounted to much, the founding fathers were scared to death that something else might come up that might endanger the newly formed Government so they adopted the 2nd Amendment as it was written since there was no Standing Army to prevent any decent resurrection from becoming successful. It was left up to each state individually to provide the militias to prevent it from happening. As long as the states agreed and didn't go to war with each other.

    Using the original definition, if you don't own your House, Farm or Business and you don't completely and blindly support our current Government then are not a Citizen in Good Standings and will not be afforded the right to own, posses or carry any form of Firearms. Oh, and you must be a Free White Male as well.
     
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    Applying 21st Century mores to 18th Century thinking is an exercise in vanity.

    The militia is bound to the right. The right is not bound to the militia.
     
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    Yup so using your logic we ave no right to privacy with computers phones or any electronics of any kind right?
     
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    If you want to follow the meaning of the 2nd amendment, the Militia is bound to the Government which should be neither right nor left, it just is.
     
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    I just stated facts and history. Once you learn why the 2nd amendment was written as it was and still is it all of a sudden makes sense. But it made sense only then.
     
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    No you are trying to claim that rules made then do not apply now cause they are old and I called you on it.
     
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    an open book test? only the "dumb ones" don't get it.
     
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    Our Second Amendment is about what is Necessary to the security of a free State.
     
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    Missed it by a mile sonny.. The 2nd was written to COMBINE 2 concepts. That of allowing standing militias as a right reserved to the States and localities and consisting "the people" with the restrictions you noted. However, the second combined explicit right was for EVERY CITIZEN to be allowed to "bear arms". It's all documented in the history of the writing of the US Constitution and the contemporaneous explanations of the Founders.
     
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    Drafting the militia means, grabbing anyone, not just gun lovers; it could mean, emptying our jails to lower costs.
     
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