ENTANGLING ALLIANCES: Saudis Keep Changing Their Strory -- What Should We Do?...

[Dschrute3]

Some pretty smart folks warned us about entangling alliances back in the day. Our Government should have listened. Considering evil nations like Saudi Arabia 'Close Friends', is selling the American soul to the Devil.


Good article by Ron Paul.

The Saudi version of the disappearance and murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi seems to change every day or so. The latest is the Saudi government claim that the opposition journalist was killed in a “botched interrogation” at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. Or was it a fist-fight? What is laughable is that the Saudi king has placed Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, a prime suspect, in charge of the investigation of Khashoggi’s murder!

Though the official story keeps changing, what is unlikely to change is Washington’s continued relationship with Saudi Arabia. It is a partnership that is in no way beneficial to Americans or the US national interest.

President Trump has promised “severe punishment” if the Saudi government is found to have been involved in Khashoggi’s murder, but he also took off the table any reduction in arms sales to prop up the murderous Saudi war on Yemen. It’s all about jobs, said President Trump. So the Saudi killing of thousands in Yemen can go on. Some murders are more important than others, obviously.

The killing of Khashoggi puts the Trump Administration in a difficult situation. President Trump views Iran as designated enemy number one. Next month the US Administration intends to impose a new round of sanctions designed to make it impossible for Iran to sell its oil on the international market. To keep US fuel prices from spiking over this move Trump is relying on other countries, especially Saudi Arabia, to pump more and make up the difference. But the Saudis have threatened $400 oil...

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The Saudis Keep Changing Their Story on the Murder of Khashoggi. What Should We Do?

Dude this guy is the 2 millionth person that the Saudis cut up. Shit these retards cut body parts off of their own wives, did you just arrive on Earth or what?

I hear ya, so let's stop calling Saudi Arabia a 'Close Friend.' It's an evil country. Let's cut ties.

 

[Dschrute3]

Just stating the reality. This particular entangling alliance can really effect Americans' every day lives. The Saudis literally have us over a barrel.

why do we care?

Oil and Gas Prices.

right, so why would we put 300 million people in peril over one saudi citizen? explain for me how that works.

Not disagreeing with you. It's really none of our business. But we've put ourselves in a very dangerous position in regards to 'Close Friends' like Saudi Arabia. It's our 'duty' to defend evil now. For example, most Americans have no idea how many Yemenis our Government has slaughtered to help Saudi Arabia. Horrific war crimes are being committed there. We're culpable.

well do we have any paperwork that we have that says if this do that? I mean, again, this is UN business and only UN business. not ours. Not ours one fking bit. Trump needs to tell everyone to sit the fk down.

I'm with ya, but we do need to gradually cut our ties with Saudi Arabia. It's an evil nation we shouldn't consider a 'Close Friend.'

 

[Godboy]

Carpet bomb 'em. Not for the journalist necessarily. For 9/11.

Can't happen. Fat greedy Americans are addicted to those low gas prices. The Saudis literally have the US over a barrel.

If I was in charge, I would tell them to turn over the crown prince and if gas prices raise by even a single penny, we will take over their oil fields and then seek a complete regime change. Fuck it, just let the rest of the world divvy up their oil and remove SA from the equation.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

This is still none of our business. We aren't going to investigate anything. We will be told. Like it or lump it.

Unfortunately, it is our business. That's what entangling alliances are all about. We're involved, whether we like it or not.

We're involved because idiots like you keep making it a topic of discussion which puts pressure on our government making them think Americans care. I guarantee you most do not but that isn't the image that mass media and people like you put forth.

 

[Rosy]

Some pretty smart folks warned us about entangling alliances back in the day. Our Government should have listened. Considering evil nations like Saudi Arabia 'Close Friends', is selling the American soul to the Devil.


Good article by Ron Paul.

The Saudi version of the disappearance and murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi seems to change every day or so. The latest is the Saudi government claim that the opposition journalist was killed in a “botched interrogation” at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. Or was it a fist-fight? What is laughable is that the Saudi king has placed Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, a prime suspect, in charge of the investigation of Khashoggi’s murder!

Though the official story keeps changing, what is unlikely to change is Washington’s continued relationship with Saudi Arabia. It is a partnership that is in no way beneficial to Americans or the US national interest.

President Trump has promised “severe punishment” if the Saudi government is found to have been involved in Khashoggi’s murder, but he also took off the table any reduction in arms sales to prop up the murderous Saudi war on Yemen. It’s all about jobs, said President Trump. So the Saudi killing of thousands in Yemen can go on. Some murders are more important than others, obviously.

The killing of Khashoggi puts the Trump Administration in a difficult situation. President Trump views Iran as designated enemy number one. Next month the US Administration intends to impose a new round of sanctions designed to make it impossible for Iran to sell its oil on the international market. To keep US fuel prices from spiking over this move Trump is relying on other countries, especially Saudi Arabia, to pump more and make up the difference. But the Saudis have threatened $400 oil...

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The Saudis Keep Changing Their Story on the Murder of Khashoggi. What Should We Do?

Dude this guy is the 2 millionth person that the Saudis cut up. Shit these retards cut body parts off of their own wives, did you just arrive on Earth or what?

I hear ya, so let's stop calling Saudi Arabia a 'Close Friend.' It's an evil country. Let's cut ties.

When you hear that the USA is a net exporter of oil, its fake news bullshit, without opec oil we could not function, do you want 25 dollar a gallon gas?

 

[Dschrute3]

Some pretty smart folks warned us about entangling alliances back in the day. Our Government should have listened. Considering evil nations like Saudi Arabia 'Close Friends', is selling the American soul to the Devil.


Good article by Ron Paul.

The Saudi version of the disappearance and murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi seems to change every day or so. The latest is the Saudi government claim that the opposition journalist was killed in a “botched interrogation” at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. Or was it a fist-fight? What is laughable is that the Saudi king has placed Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, a prime suspect, in charge of the investigation of Khashoggi’s murder!

Though the official story keeps changing, what is unlikely to change is Washington’s continued relationship with Saudi Arabia. It is a partnership that is in no way beneficial to Americans or the US national interest.

President Trump has promised “severe punishment” if the Saudi government is found to have been involved in Khashoggi’s murder, but he also took off the table any reduction in arms sales to prop up the murderous Saudi war on Yemen. It’s all about jobs, said President Trump. So the Saudi killing of thousands in Yemen can go on. Some murders are more important than others, obviously.

The killing of Khashoggi puts the Trump Administration in a difficult situation. President Trump views Iran as designated enemy number one. Next month the US Administration intends to impose a new round of sanctions designed to make it impossible for Iran to sell its oil on the international market. To keep US fuel prices from spiking over this move Trump is relying on other countries, especially Saudi Arabia, to pump more and make up the difference. But the Saudis have threatened $400 oil...

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The Saudis Keep Changing Their Story on the Murder of Khashoggi. What Should We Do?

Dude this guy is the 2 millionth person that the Saudis cut up. Shit these retards cut body parts off of their own wives, did you just arrive on Earth or what?

I hear ya, so let's stop calling Saudi Arabia a 'Close Friend.' It's an evil country. Let's cut ties.

When you hear that the USA is a net exporter of oil, its fake news bullshit, without opec oil we could not function, do you want 25 dollar a gallon gas?

It is a very sad entangling alliance. The Saudis now have so much influence over our nation's affairs. We should cut ties with such an evil country, but it's very difficult to do so. There would have to be painful sacrifices.

 

[Rosy]

Some pretty smart folks warned us about entangling alliances back in the day. Our Government should have listened. Considering evil nations like Saudi Arabia 'Close Friends', is selling the American soul to the Devil.


Good article by Ron Paul.

The Saudi version of the disappearance and murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi seems to change every day or so. The latest is the Saudi government claim that the opposition journalist was killed in a “botched interrogation” at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. Or was it a fist-fight? What is laughable is that the Saudi king has placed Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, a prime suspect, in charge of the investigation of Khashoggi’s murder!

Though the official story keeps changing, what is unlikely to change is Washington’s continued relationship with Saudi Arabia. It is a partnership that is in no way beneficial to Americans or the US national interest.

President Trump has promised “severe punishment” if the Saudi government is found to have been involved in Khashoggi’s murder, but he also took off the table any reduction in arms sales to prop up the murderous Saudi war on Yemen. It’s all about jobs, said President Trump. So the Saudi killing of thousands in Yemen can go on. Some murders are more important than others, obviously.

The killing of Khashoggi puts the Trump Administration in a difficult situation. President Trump views Iran as designated enemy number one. Next month the US Administration intends to impose a new round of sanctions designed to make it impossible for Iran to sell its oil on the international market. To keep US fuel prices from spiking over this move Trump is relying on other countries, especially Saudi Arabia, to pump more and make up the difference. But the Saudis have threatened $400 oil...

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The Saudis Keep Changing Their Story on the Murder of Khashoggi. What Should We Do?

Dude this guy is the 2 millionth person that the Saudis cut up. Shit these retards cut body parts off of their own wives, did you just arrive on Earth or what?

I hear ya, so let's stop calling Saudi Arabia a 'Close Friend.' It's an evil country. Let's cut ties.

When you hear that the USA is a net exporter of oil, its fake news bullshit, without opec oil we could not function, do you want 25 dollar a gallon gas?

It is a very sad entangling alliance. The Saudis now have so much influence over our nation's affairs. We should cut ties with such an evil country, but it's very difficult to do so. There would have to be painful sacrifices.

There would be no sacrifice, we would end as a nation, as our economy still runs on oil and if the Saudis sold the stock that they own in the USA, the entire market would crash.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

What should we do? Nothing. This is none of our business.

 

[AntonToo]

Some pretty smart folks warned us about entangling alliances back in the day. Our Government should have listened. Considering evil nations like Saudi Arabia 'Close Friends', is selling the American soul to the Devil.


Good article by Ron Paul.

The Saudi version of the disappearance and murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi seems to change every day or so. The latest is the Saudi government claim that the opposition journalist was killed in a “botched interrogation” at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. Or was it a fist-fight? What is laughable is that the Saudi king has placed Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, a prime suspect, in charge of the investigation of Khashoggi’s murder!

Though the official story keeps changing, what is unlikely to change is Washington’s continued relationship with Saudi Arabia. It is a partnership that is in no way beneficial to Americans or the US national interest.

President Trump has promised “severe punishment” if the Saudi government is found to have been involved in Khashoggi’s murder, but he also took off the table any reduction in arms sales to prop up the murderous Saudi war on Yemen. It’s all about jobs, said President Trump. So the Saudi killing of thousands in Yemen can go on. Some murders are more important than others, obviously.

The killing of Khashoggi puts the Trump Administration in a difficult situation. President Trump views Iran as designated enemy number one. Next month the US Administration intends to impose a new round of sanctions designed to make it impossible for Iran to sell its oil on the international market. To keep US fuel prices from spiking over this move Trump is relying on other countries, especially Saudi Arabia, to pump more and make up the difference. But the Saudis have threatened $400 oil...

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The Saudis Keep Changing Their Story on the Murder of Khashoggi. What Should We Do?

What should we do?

Depends, if Obama was President we would barely hear about this...

Oh fuck you,

Obama would be slamming Saudis for the charade instead of participating in it like Trump. He was a sucker for MORAL LEADERSHIP.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Oh fuck you,

Obama would be slamming Saudis for the charade instead of participating in it like Trump. He was a sucker for MORAL LEADERSHIP.

Haha..... you mad bro?
Trump has repeatedly stated everyone is angry about it, "no more than me:. He has condemned it, he has said there is no excuse for it, he has said it is iutragous... what the fuck more you want??
But...I get it. HuffPost and CNN have been going on about this non-stop for days now....all... leaving out what Trump has said about it.
Obama would do no such thing, maybe he would bow a little less lower when he met them again.

 

[Seawytch]

The first thing is that we need to find a body and then complete an investigation

WHY?

It happened in a foreign nation to a foreigner.

How the fuck is this our problem? Parroting media bs doesn't make it true.

THIS ISN'T OUR PROBLEM. ONE FOREIGNER IS NOT WORTH THIS MUCH BULLSHIT

He had the same status in the United States that Melania's parents did until August of this year. He was a green card holding journalist for a U.S. newspaper.

 

[Seawytch]

What should we do? Impeach the Orange Oligarch for violating the Emoluments Clause and trying to cover up a murder committed by his Saudi business partners.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The first thing is that we need to find a body and then complete an investigation

WHY?

It happened in a foreign nation to a foreigner.

How the fuck is this our problem? Parroting media bs doesn't make it true.

THIS ISN'T OUR PROBLEM. ONE FOREIGNER IS NOT WORTH THIS MUCH BULLSHIT

He had the same status in the United States that Melania's parents did until August of this year. He was a green card holding journalist for a U.S. newspaper.

I don't care

 

[jc456]

Some pretty smart folks warned us about entangling alliances back in the day. Our Government should have listened. Considering evil nations like Saudi Arabia 'Close Friends', is selling the American soul to the Devil.


Good article by Ron Paul.

The Saudi version of the disappearance and murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi seems to change every day or so. The latest is the Saudi government claim that the opposition journalist was killed in a “botched interrogation” at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. Or was it a fist-fight? What is laughable is that the Saudi king has placed Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, a prime suspect, in charge of the investigation of Khashoggi’s murder!

Though the official story keeps changing, what is unlikely to change is Washington’s continued relationship with Saudi Arabia. It is a partnership that is in no way beneficial to Americans or the US national interest.

President Trump has promised “severe punishment” if the Saudi government is found to have been involved in Khashoggi’s murder, but he also took off the table any reduction in arms sales to prop up the murderous Saudi war on Yemen. It’s all about jobs, said President Trump. So the Saudi killing of thousands in Yemen can go on. Some murders are more important than others, obviously.

The killing of Khashoggi puts the Trump Administration in a difficult situation. President Trump views Iran as designated enemy number one. Next month the US Administration intends to impose a new round of sanctions designed to make it impossible for Iran to sell its oil on the international market. To keep US fuel prices from spiking over this move Trump is relying on other countries, especially Saudi Arabia, to pump more and make up the difference. But the Saudis have threatened $400 oil...

Read More:
The Saudis Keep Changing Their Story on the Murder of Khashoggi. What Should We Do?

What should we do?

Depends, if Obama was President we would barely hear about this...

Oh fuck you,

Obama would be slamming Saudis for the charade instead of participating in it like Trump. He was a sucker for MORAL LEADERSHIP.

then why didn't ever do that? you think this is the only guy?

 

[jc456]

What should we do? Impeach the Orange Oligarch for violating the Emoluments Clause and trying to cover up a murder committed by his Saudi business partners.

wow, the stupid in this post is amazing.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The first thing is that we need to find a body and then complete an investigation

WHY?

It happened in a foreign nation to a foreigner.

How the fuck is this our problem? Parroting media bs doesn't make it true.

THIS ISN'T OUR PROBLEM. ONE FOREIGNER IS NOT WORTH THIS MUCH BULLSHIT

He had the same status in the United States that Melania's parents did until August of this year. He was a green card holding journalist for a U.S. newspaper.

Yeah....and...?
I am aware that the left media is trying to make this out as the single worst foreign relations catastrophe in American history.
It isn't. It isn't even in the top 1000.
Any number of events during Obama's administration was many times worse than this, where was the 24 hour coverage then?
What happened was absolutely wrong. No question. Obviously the guy found something out that they could not risk coming out so they killed him.
Wrong. Very wrong. But not something that is so big that we need to do anything other than make a show of effort to "investigate" and say how outraged we are. PERIOD.
Under Obama, the Russians were forcibly removing a nation member of the European Union. China turned the largest trade waters in the world, the China Sea, into a militarized Chinese territory regardless it is in international waters.
Obama abandoning the "red line" over Syrian chemical weapon usage, his under the table U.S. military backed regime change in Libya.... all of these things are 1,000,000 times a bigger deal than one journalist getting killed. Yet...the left media all but ignored every single one of them.

 

[jc456]

The first thing is that we need to find a body and then complete an investigation

WHY?

It happened in a foreign nation to a foreigner.

How the fuck is this our problem? Parroting media bs doesn't make it true.

THIS ISN'T OUR PROBLEM. ONE FOREIGNER IS NOT WORTH THIS MUCH BULLSHIT

He had the same status in the United States that Melania's parents did until August of this year. He was a green card holding journalist for a U.S. newspaper.

Yeah....and...?
I am aware that the left media is trying to make this out as the single worst foreign relations catastrophe in American history.
It isn't. It isn't even in the top 1000.
Any number of events during Obama's administration was many times worse than this, where was the 24 hour coverage then?
What happened was absolutely wrong. No question. Obviously the guy found something out that they could not risk coming out so they killed him.
Wrong. Very wrong. But not something that is so big that we need to do anything other than make a show of effort to "investigate" and say how outraged we are. PERIOD.
Under Obama, the Russians were forcibly removing a nation member of the European Union. China turned the largest trade waters in the world, the China Sea, into a militarized Chinese territory regardless it is in international waters.
Obama abandoning the "red line" over Syrian chemical weapon usage, his under the table U.S. military backed regime change in Libya.... all of these things are 1,000,000 times a bigger deal than one journalist getting killed. Yet...the left media all but ignored every single one of them.

the media doesn't want country unity it's that simple.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The first thing is that we need to find a body and then complete an investigation

WHY?

It happened in a foreign nation to a foreigner.

How the fuck is this our problem? Parroting media bs doesn't make it true.

THIS ISN'T OUR PROBLEM. ONE FOREIGNER IS NOT WORTH THIS MUCH BULLSHIT

He had the same status in the United States that Melania's parents did until August of this year. He was a green card holding journalist for a U.S. newspaper.

Yeah....and...?
I am aware that the left media is trying to make this out as the single worst foreign relations catastrophe in American history.
It isn't. It isn't even in the top 1000.
Any number of events during Obama's administration was many times worse than this, where was the 24 hour coverage then?
What happened was absolutely wrong. No question. Obviously the guy found something out that they could not risk coming out so they killed him.
Wrong. Very wrong. But not something that is so big that we need to do anything other than make a show of effort to "investigate" and say how outraged we are. PERIOD.
Under Obama, the Russians were forcibly removing a nation member of the European Union. China turned the largest trade waters in the world, the China Sea, into a militarized Chinese territory regardless it is in international waters.
Obama abandoning the "red line" over Syrian chemical weapon usage, his under the table U.S. military backed regime change in Libya.... all of these things are 1,000,000 times a bigger deal than one journalist getting killed. Yet...the left media all but ignored every single one of them.

the media doesn't want country unity it's that simple.

And neither does any other national media source.
ALL, including Fox, purposefully sew discontent and division on a daily basis.
Fox News everyday spend the majority of their time telling viewers/readers stories about how bad the left is. CNN spends the vast majority of their time spinning anything they can possibly think of against the President. And have done so since day one.
We have no media source that is not tainted.