toxicmedia
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What I found odd was "why anyone would be arguing against the numbers" that clearly show Hillary polling better than all Republican challengers for the whole year so far.huh?What about the favorability, likability, and trustworthiness rankings of the GOP challengers?Not really odd. Hillary has had the greatest name recognition for years. All the average Joe, non political, middle America people heard about Cruz was "green eggs and ham". All they heard about Walker was his recall election. All they heard about Huckabee was his Evangelical approach. All they heard about Carson was....well....pretty much nothing.How is she sinking?She's lost six points since March....sinking faster than a submarine with a screen door
She remains, through the worst Fox and the GOP has to dish out, still 5-15 points ahead of all Republican challengers.
The difference between Hillary and other potential Democrats now, is very different than Hillary VS other potential Democratic nominees in 2008. There is no Obama, with the potential to promote the concept of "hope and change". Elizabeth Warren does not represent anything new that Hillary couldn't bring to the office.
I'm surprised anyone would be arguing against the numbers. It's like you guys are seeing the "Hillary +10" or "Hillary +7".....in January 2015, and still in May 2015.....but you're just not seeing them or something.
Kind of odd.
And they are just noticing that cool sounding kid by the name of Rubio.
At this stage you can not look at "head to head".....I mean, heck.....most people struggle between Kerry and Biden when asked who the VP is. Most people only know a few names in Politics after the President.
At this stage, you need to look at Hillary's favorability, likability, and trustworthiness rankings to determine where she stands.
And those numbers are sinking.
Honestly...what you're saying Democrats should be concerned about, sounds just like what Fox News and the GOP wishes Democrats were concerned about.
Right now, Clinton is sitting back biding their time, waiting to unleash the same teams that got Bill elected in 1990, when they need to. Right now they don't
You said something was odd......so.,.........
I simply explained to you why Clinton head to head rankings are not really moving much whereas her likability and trustworthiness rankings are dipping.
I did not say anything as to what democrats should be concerned about.
Likewise, I did not see any reason to address the GOP challengers and what they lack for you did not say that was odd.
If you prefer just orating and not having a conversation....just say so and I will gladly sit back and let you run the show.
By the way......my premise? Is the exact reason as to why you found something as odd...that is not odd at all.
Threads have topics, and Hillary's numbers, compared to the GOP field, is the topic.
But I'm a reasonable man, and I hate when people try and stifle discussion on other threads because something they don't want to consider is "off topic"
So!...in the interest of conversation...let me try an initiate some, with a question.
Barring some new legitimate scandal, that gains traction with the 95% of Americans who don't watch Fox News, what could happen that would eliminate that 10+ point lead Hillary has over the GOP challengers?
As I remember, the debates do have the potential to swing votes 5% + or -
And why hasn't Karl Rove been busting out his 1980's white board on these polls?