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Prove it, Old Crock, you think the Chevy Volt hybrid is an Electric Car. I see you have no defense of your post that I tore up.Poor little miss Elektra still doesn't understand the differance between volts and amps. LOLLearn to quote moron, and separate your comment out of mine!That charging station is the 220V outlet already sitting in your garage.
Crick, if you had a brain you would not be posting in favor of Green, Clean, Renewable, Sustainable garbage nor would you post as if you knew about AGW.
You need a charging station, you need an electrician to come in and put an outlet in your garage, you need to pull a permit, you need a system designed, you need a new circuit breaker box.
People believe you just plug electric cars in, like a cell phone? What idiots. First, is your house single phase, double phase, or triple phase and what is the requirement for a Tesla car? Do you have single phase 50 amp? Or do you have double phase 50 amp? Are you pumping ground water? Can your house handle your charger and a pump for ground water? And an air conditioner?
Most homes are single phase, most homes do not have a 240 volt, 3 phase circuit. I bet none do, unless somebody added it after the house is built.
You can go to the Tesla site and the information is vague, it says you can plug into a 110 volt outlet but kind of does not specify that it best be a 50 amp circuit. This is not as easy as pie, Crick.
Tesla says they have a 110 volt 10 kw system, I am not sure on the technical details but that may draw upwards of 100 amps? Unless the charging unit contains a capacitor type of circuitry and cycles on/off.
Either way, Tesla will make it clear that you need an electrician before you drive your Tesla home! No electrician, and you will be burning your house down, guaranteed.
Here is a pic of the outlet, that Crick thinks is in every garage in the good ole usa. That would be 110, 50 amp, you just do not plug a 110 amp 50 amp load onto any old 110 outlet.
Technically, you need a 240 amp, 3 phase 100 amp circuit.
Tesla Charging | Tesla Motors
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While the other answers are all correct, there is another wrinkle you might want to be aware of.Three phase is not used for domestic housing, It is a commercial application....Appliances are not made for three phase, Oh and I ask 30 years ago why no two phase..
Sure, 3 phase is not used for domestic housing, but domestic housing was not designed for charging electric cars, either.
Appliances, they are not designed for 3 phase? No kidding, but they will operate fine on a 3 phase circuit, appliances will simply draw the current they use.
Why no 2 phase, as long as we are bullshitting, why no 3 phase? 2 phase is cheaper, but if you got money to throw away on an electric car you got money to buy the best. 3 phase give you more power, faster charging, less danger.
2 phase or 3 phase, both will require a huge investment, permits, an electrician. 3 phase will cost more, but if you are going electric, go 3 phase. If you can not afford 3 phase, you can not afford an electric car.
This is a direct quote from your post;Prove it, Old Crock, you think the Chevy Volt hybrid is an Electric Car. I see you have no defense of your post that I tore up.Poor little miss Elektra still doesn't understand the differance between volts and amps. LOLLearn to quote moron, and separate your comment out of mine!That charging station is the 220V outlet already sitting in your garage.
Crick, if you had a brain you would not be posting in favor of Green, Clean, Renewable, Sustainable garbage nor would you post as if you knew about AGW.
You need a charging station, you need an electrician to come in and put an outlet in your garage, you need to pull a permit, you need a system designed, you need a new circuit breaker box.
People believe you just plug electric cars in, like a cell phone? What idiots. First, is your house single phase, double phase, or triple phase and what is the requirement for a Tesla car? Do you have single phase 50 amp? Or do you have double phase 50 amp? Are you pumping ground water? Can your house handle your charger and a pump for ground water? And an air conditioner?
Most homes are single phase, most homes do not have a 240 volt, 3 phase circuit. I bet none do, unless somebody added it after the house is built.
You can go to the Tesla site and the information is vague, it says you can plug into a 110 volt outlet but kind of does not specify that it best be a 50 amp circuit. This is not as easy as pie, Crick.
Tesla says they have a 110 volt 10 kw system, I am not sure on the technical details but that may draw upwards of 100 amps? Unless the charging unit contains a capacitor type of circuitry and cycles on/off.
Either way, Tesla will make it clear that you need an electrician before you drive your Tesla home! No electrician, and you will be burning your house down, guaranteed.
Here is a pic of the outlet, that Crick thinks is in every garage in the good ole usa. That would be 110, 50 amp, you just do not plug a 110 amp 50 amp load onto any old 110 outlet.
Technically, you need a 240 amp, 3 phase 100 amp circuit.
Tesla Charging | Tesla Motors
View attachment 75554
What are taking issue with, quote it, make your comment, and lets see if you can support your mouth.
You do not use three phase to charge these cars....Single phase is used, the max load is 20kw, 6 or 12 volt, the batteries are DC and are low power users....Three phase is not used for domestic housing, It is a commercial application....Appliances are not made for three phase, Oh and I ask 30 years ago why no two phase..
Sure, 3 phase is not used for domestic housing, but domestic housing was not designed for charging electric cars, either.
Appliances, they are not designed for 3 phase? No kidding, but they will operate fine on a 3 phase circuit, appliances will simply draw the current they use.
Why no 2 phase, as long as we are bullshitting, why no 3 phase? 2 phase is cheaper, but if you got money to throw away on an electric car you got money to buy the best. 3 phase give you more power, faster charging, less danger.
2 phase or 3 phase, both will require a huge investment, permits, an electrician. 3 phase will cost more, but if you are going electric, go 3 phase. If you can not afford 3 phase, you can not afford an electric car.
A simple mistake, is man not allowed mistakes, but for you Old Crock, you look for the tiniest piece of bullshit in which to denigrate somebody you disagree with.This is a direct quote from your post;Prove it, Old Crock, you think the Chevy Volt hybrid is an Electric Car. I see you have no defense of your post that I tore up.Poor little miss Elektra still doesn't understand the differance between volts and amps. LOLLearn to quote moron, and separate your comment out of mine!That charging station is the 220V outlet already sitting in your garage.
Crick, if you had a brain you would not be posting in favor of Green, Clean, Renewable, Sustainable garbage nor would you post as if you knew about AGW.
You need a charging station, you need an electrician to come in and put an outlet in your garage, you need to pull a permit, you need a system designed, you need a new circuit breaker box.
People believe you just plug electric cars in, like a cell phone? What idiots. First, is your house single phase, double phase, or triple phase and what is the requirement for a Tesla car? Do you have single phase 50 amp? Or do you have double phase 50 amp? Are you pumping ground water? Can your house handle your charger and a pump for ground water? And an air conditioner?
Most homes are single phase, most homes do not have a 240 volt, 3 phase circuit. I bet none do, unless somebody added it after the house is built.
You can go to the Tesla site and the information is vague, it says you can plug into a 110 volt outlet but kind of does not specify that it best be a 50 amp circuit. This is not as easy as pie, Crick.
Tesla says they have a 110 volt 10 kw system, I am not sure on the technical details but that may draw upwards of 100 amps? Unless the charging unit contains a capacitor type of circuitry and cycles on/off.
Either way, Tesla will make it clear that you need an electrician before you drive your Tesla home! No electrician, and you will be burning your house down, guaranteed.
Here is a pic of the outlet, that Crick thinks is in every garage in the good ole usa. That would be 110, 50 amp, you just do not plug a 110 amp 50 amp load onto any old 110 outlet.
Technically, you need a 240 amp, 3 phase 100 amp circuit.
Tesla Charging | Tesla Motors
View attachment 75554
What are taking issue with, quote it, make your comment, and lets see if you can support your mouth.
"Here is a pic of the outlet, that Crick thinks is in every garage in the good ole usa. That would be 110, 50 amp, you just do not plug a 110 amp 50 amp load onto any old 110 outlet.
Technically, you need a 240 amp, 3 phase 100 amp circuit.
Tesla Charging | Tesla Motors"
You said "240 amp, 3 Phase 100 amp circuit". Now just what the hell is that.
20000 watts? On a 6 or 12 volt circuit? Power divided by Volts, will equal Amps?You do not use three phase to charge these cars....Single phase is used, the max load is 20kw, 6 or 12 volt, the batteries are DC and are low power users....Three phase is not used for domestic housing, It is a commercial application....Appliances are not made for three phase, Oh and I ask 30 years ago why no two phase..
Sure, 3 phase is not used for domestic housing, but domestic housing was not designed for charging electric cars, either.
Appliances, they are not designed for 3 phase? No kidding, but they will operate fine on a 3 phase circuit, appliances will simply draw the current they use.
Why no 2 phase, as long as we are bullshitting, why no 3 phase? 2 phase is cheaper, but if you got money to throw away on an electric car you got money to buy the best. 3 phase give you more power, faster charging, less danger.
2 phase or 3 phase, both will require a huge investment, permits, an electrician. 3 phase will cost more, but if you are going electric, go 3 phase. If you can not afford 3 phase, you can not afford an electric car.
Hmmmmm, Old Crock has to run to google for every little thought in his head. 99.99999999999% of all houses are Single Phase power.While the other answers are all correct, there is another wrinkle you might want to be aware of.Three phase is not used for domestic housing, It is a commercial application....Appliances are not made for three phase, Oh and I ask 30 years ago why no two phase..
Sure, 3 phase is not used for domestic housing, but domestic housing was not designed for charging electric cars, either.
Appliances, they are not designed for 3 phase? No kidding, but they will operate fine on a 3 phase circuit, appliances will simply draw the current they use.
Why no 2 phase, as long as we are bullshitting, why no 3 phase? 2 phase is cheaper, but if you got money to throw away on an electric car you got money to buy the best. 3 phase give you more power, faster charging, less danger.
2 phase or 3 phase, both will require a huge investment, permits, an electrician. 3 phase will cost more, but if you are going electric, go 3 phase. If you can not afford 3 phase, you can not afford an electric car.
In general. household electrical service in North America is single phase three wire 120/240 volt. That is to say that there are three wires, two "hots" (typically red and black) and a "neutral" (typically white).
If you measure the voltage between either of the hot wires and neutral, you will see about 120 volts. Between the two hots, it will be the sum of the voltages, or about 240 volts.
In technical terms, the two hot wires are both 60 Hz alternating current, but they are 180 degrees out of phase.
However...
This is not always the case. There are some areas of the country where, for various reasons, there are some locations where single phase power is not easily available, but three phase power is. So, instead of using 120/240 single phase, they use two of the three phases.
In those locations, the service you have coming into your house looks just the same. Two hots and a neutral.
If you measure the voltage between either of the hot wires and neutral, you will see about 120 volts, just like in single phase service. But between the two hots, it will be about 208 volts, not 240.
This is because the two hot wires are both 60 Hz alternating current, but instead of being 180 degrees out of phase, they are only 120 degrees out of phase
How to know if I have a 3-phase electrical supply at home - Quora
Hmmm....................
Like I said, you need an Electrician, and the dealer will tell you that, before you drive your EV home.Quick 220 Systems - Electric Vehicle Charging – Tesla
How big a circuit will I need?
While hybrid models such as the Chevrolet Volt and plug-in Toyota Prius have a built-in charger that can charge the battery overnight on a standard 110-volt household outlet, pure electric cars will require a separate charger that requires at least a 220-volt, 20-amp circuit. 30 or 40 amp circuits will charge faster. Any electric-car charger has to be on a dedicated circuit. Even plug-in hybrids will be much easier to live with if you have a 220-volt charger, which can cut your charge time in half.
Now that is not a big item, really. Your dryer has a similiar power demand.
old washer/dryer vs modern washer/dryer amps?
Best Answer:The amperage is the same. The plug is not. Around 2000 they went from 3 prong to 4 prong. Still 240 volts, still 40 amps. In your breaker box that is two 20 amp 120 volt circuit together. This is a job for an electrician. Likewise, they will not install a plug on your dryer, that's for an electrician too, he will put on a cord that is compatible with your outlet.
100 amps is plenty. That's all my house is. The only thing I have on a 240 circuit like a electric dryer is my central air. That's 40 amps and on it's own circuits. The whole house has 100 amp mains, unlikely you'd draw another 60 amps unless you have central air, and/or electric heat. Then the mains need to be upgraded to 200 amps. That's when you need to get the power company involved.
Now if you have an older home, you will probably have to get a bigger box. You probably need one in any case.
Quick 220 Systems - Electric Vehicle Charging – Tesla
How big a circuit will I need?
While hybrid models such as the Chevrolet Volt and plug-in Toyota Prius have a built-in charger that can charge the battery overnight on a standard 110-volt household outlet, pure electric cars will require a separate charger that requires at least a 220-volt, 20-amp circuit. 30 or 40 amp circuits will charge faster. Any electric-car charger has to be on a dedicated circuit. .
You have ignored the Tesla, in this thread. Having a larger battery the impact is larger, not great for your argument, or lack of argument.Why would I ignore the Tesla? A 220 charger will also charge a Tesla faster than a 110 charger will. It will just take longer because of the fact that a Tesla has a much larger battery than any other electric at present.
It is the load that determines the amperage, not the charger.In what way? A 240 volt charger operating at 40 amps will charge a Tesla just as easily as a Leaf.
Damn, Old Crock, you really are dumb when it comes to electricity.In what way? A 240 volt charger operating at 40 amps will charge a Tesla just as easily as a Leaf.
SPECIFICATION EVSE-RS PI Connector SAE J1772 Voltage 240VAC split phase and neutral ground or 208VAC 2 phases and neutral grounded Frequency 60Hz /50Hz Current 30A max Operating Temperature -22°F to 122°F -30°C to 50°C Dimensions 12” x 12” x 8” (approximate) Weight 10 lbs. (excl. cable) 19 lbs. (with 25’ cable) Cord Length 25’ AC Plug NEMA 6-50 Enclosure NEMA 3R Regulatory Compliance UL and cUL listed
There is no such thing as double phase.Learn to quote moron, and separate your comment out of mine!That charging station is the 220V outlet already sitting in your garage.
Crick, if you had a brain you would not be posting in favor of Green, Clean, Renewable, Sustainable garbage nor would you post as if you knew about AGW.
You need a charging station, you need an electrician to come in and put an outlet in your garage, you need to pull a permit, you need a system designed, you need a new circuit breaker box.
People believe you just plug electric cars in, like a cell phone? What idiots. First, is your house single phase, double phase, or triple phase and what is the requirement for a Tesla car? Do you have single phase 50 amp? Or do you have double phase 50 amp? Are you pumping ground water? Can your house handle your charger and a pump for ground water? And an air conditioner?
Most homes are single phase, most homes do not have a 240 volt, 3 phase circuit. I bet none do, unless somebody added it after the house is built.
You can go to the Tesla site and the information is vague, it says you can plug into a 110 volt outlet but kind of does not specify that it best be a 50 amp circuit. This is not as easy as pie, Crick.
Tesla says they have a 110 volt 10 kw system, I am not sure on the technical details but that may draw upwards of 100 amps? Unless the charging unit contains a capacitor type of circuitry and cycles on/off.
Either way, Tesla will make it clear that you need an electrician before you drive your Tesla home! No electrician, and you will be burning your house down, guaranteed.
Here is a pic of the outlet, that Crick thinks is in every garage in the good ole usa. That would be 110, 50 amp, you just do not plug a 110 amp 50 amp load onto any old 110 outlet.
Technically, you need a 240 amp, 3 phase 100 amp circuit.
Tesla Charging | Tesla Motors
View attachment 75554
Technically there is, and in practice, some do exist. Certainly in the context I was speaking, had I thought it through I should only refer to single phase and three phase. But that said, one could argure that 2-phase does exist in Philadelphia and Hartford CT., on a limited basis.There is no such thing as double phase.
