Do you remember the fort hood shooter

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And it was called work place volience. Now remember the shooter is Muslim.. Now Fort Hood says watch out for Christians and Tea Party people as terrorist. I swear we are living in the twight light zone. WHEN has a tea party rally result in a death.. I swear this country is going way far left it Is sad


Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups So they are telling soldiers not to deal with them . What if they are Christians. IF they pay a tithe will be reason to believe they are terrorist under Obama.. But a Muslim shoots up the place it work place violence But god forbid if we say something negative about a Muslim.. People we are not in Kansas anymore..
 
Who got a death sentence.

And? Would you care to justify why his outburst was labeled as "workplace violence" by the left for me?

You seem really hung up on this? Would people still be alive if they called the incident life givings? It was workplace violence, violence that happened at the work place.

I don't know if or what makes something necessarily makes something "terrorism". Its like trying to describe the perfect turd
 
Who got a death sentence.

And? Would you care to justify why his outburst was labeled as "workplace violence" by the left for me?

Link?

I've heard this talking point a hundred times, but a google search only turns up with Conservative blogs. Do you have a link to the Ft. Hood shooting being called "workplace violence" by any official source?


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And it was called work place volience. Now remember the shooter is Muslim.. Now Fort Hood says watch out for Christians and Tea Party people as terrorist. I swear we are living in the twight light zone. WHEN has a tea party rally result in a death.. I swear this country is going way far left it Is sad


Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups So they are telling soldiers not to deal with them . What if they are Christians. IF they pay a tithe will be reason to believe they are terrorist under Obama.. But a Muslim shoots up the place it work place violence But god forbid if we say something negative about a Muslim.. People we are not in Kansas anymore..

And this thread debunks the myth of the Christian terrorist:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/relig...re-is-nyc-s-list-of-christian-terrorists.html

NYC stands for New York Carboneer.

Read it and weep:

List them.

Let's start with these:

March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility, the Ladies Center, in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003. The clinic in Pensacola had been bombed before and was also bombed subsequently, in 1984 and 2012.
December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York.[10] His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.
May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by Scott Roeder as Tiller served as an usher at church in Wichita, Kansas.[11]
[edit] Attempted murder, assault, and kidnappingAccording to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[12] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:[8][13][14]

August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).
July 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.[15]
January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson.

December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians' offices in Pensacola, Florida were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings "a gift to Jesus on his birthday."[18][19][20] The clinic, the Ladies Center, would later be the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994 and a firebombing in 2012.
May 21, 1998: Three people were injured when acid was poured at the entrances of five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida.[21]
October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.[22]
May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire resulted in several thousand dollars' worth of damage. The case remains unsolved.[23][24][25] This was the second arson at the clinic.[26]
September 30, 2000: John Earl, a Catholic priest, drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being forced to the ground by the owner of the building, who fired two warning shots from a shotgun.[27]
June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington destroyed a wall, resulting in $6,000 in damages.[22][28]
July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson. The case remains open.[22]
December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a "memorial lamp" for an abortion she had had there.[29]
September 11, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan, crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions; however, Edgerton is not an abortion clinic.[30] Time magazine listed the incident in a "Top 10 Inept Terrorist Plots" list.[31]
April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas, contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.[32]
May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.[33]
December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Baca's girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.[34][35]
January 22, 2009 Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness[36] rammed an SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota.[37]
January 1, 2012 Bobby Joe Rogers, 41, firebombed the American Family Planning Clinic in Pensacola, Florida with a Molotov cocktail; the fire gutted the building. Rogers told investigators that he was motivated to commit the crime by his opposition to abortion, and that what more directly prompted the act was seeing a patient enter the clinic during one of the frequent anti-abortion protests there. The clinic had previously been bombed at Christmas in 1984 and was the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994.[38]
April 1, 2012 A bomb exploded on the windowsill of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Grand Chute, Wisconsin, resulting in a fire that damaged one of the clinic's examination rooms. No injuries were reported. On April 3, the FBI arrested 50-year-old Francis Grady on charges of "arson of a building used in interstate commerce" and "intentionally damaging the property of a facility that provides reproductive health services".[39]
November 2001: After the genuine 2001 anthrax attacks, Clayton Waagner mailed hoax letters containing a white powder to 554 clinics. On December 3, 2003, Waagner was convicted of 51 charges relating to the anthrax scare.

Griffin - not supported by his pro life group.
Body Politic Feature - Shelly Shannon - II





Paul Jennings Hill - The Army of God - a fragmented fringe group whose members never met or assembled.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(United_States)

John Salvi - another schizophrenic

John Salvi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Eric Rudolph - not a Christian


Eric Rudolph - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp - 'Likely' doesn't cut it

Roeder - a schizophrenic

Assassination of George Tiller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Shelly Shannon - not reported to be a Christian, did not join the fringe group until she was incarcerated

The following from your own stolen list do not state anyone was ever accused of them -therefore you cannot claim they were perpetrated by Christians:



From your stolen wiki post

Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins-three were members of the First Assembly of God, and Wiggins of the Amazing Grace Tabernacle Church[7] — led to the acts

Those churches are Mormon churches.

May 21, 1998: Three people were injured when acid was poured at the entrances of five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida.[21]- non one named as the perp

Martin Uphoff - his affiliation is not listed anywhere that I can find.

Again no one named:

May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire resulted in several thousand dollars' worth of damage. The case remains unsolved.[23][24][25] This was the second arson at the clinic.[26]

From your stolen wiki page

John Earl, a Catholic priest - the clinic was unoccupied and no one was killed. Vandalism. A lot of peole are vandals

June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington destroyed a wall, resulting in $6,000 in damages.[22][28] - no proof it was a Christian
July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson. The case remains open.[22] - another unresolved

December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a "memorial lamp" for an abortion she had had there.[29] - personal grudge, and no religious afficiation is mentioned anywhere


David McMenemy - no place does he claim he is a Christian. And your link doesn't even state that he is.

Paul Ross Evans - another from the fragmented Army of God fringe group

May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.[33] - if they are unidentified you don't know if they were Christian, Muslim or what.

December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Baca's girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.[34][35] - again this was a personal grudge, not religious

January 22, 2009 Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness[36] rammed an SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota.[37] - Chrsitian terrorist negated in your own post

Bobby Joe Rodgers - a homeless man, no religious affiliation:

Bobby Joe Rogers Sentenced To 10 Years For Firebombing Abortion Clinic In Pensacola


Bobby Joe Rogers, 41, pleaded guilty in July to charges of arson and damaging a reproductive health facility.

The fire gutted Pensacola's American Family Planning Clinic. The building's charred shell has since been razed.

Rogers, a transient with a lengthy criminal history, told detectives he had been living in a parking lot near the clinic and decided to set the fire because he was upset that abortions were performed there.

Bobby Joe Rogers Sentenced To 10 Years For Firebombing Abortion Clinic In Pensacola

Francis Grady - no religious affiliation listed. Claimed by the Army of God - but that means nothing. I could claim you as my father if I wanted.


Clayton Lee Waagner (born August 25, 1956) is a convicted bank robber and anti-abortion activist. He was born Roger Waagner in North Dakota. He was an escaped fugitive during the spring, summer and fall of 2001 and was the FBI's 467th fugitive to be placed on the Ten Most Wanted list for carjackings, firearms violations, and bank robbery on September 21, 2001. He was placed on the United States Marshals Service Top 15 Fugitives list for sending more than 280 letters that claimed to contain anthrax, which he mailed to Planned Parenthood with return addresses of the Marshals Service and the Secret Service beginning in October 2001.[1] He is currently in prison.

Clayton Waagner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



OK, there, I answered every last one of them. You did nothing but copy and past a wiki page on abortion clinic bombers, and even that page which you stole by not citing your source does not list them as Christians. Not only that, many are unsolved which I have pointed out and only an idiot would post unsolved cases and claim they were perpetrated by a Christian unless he knows personally who the perps are. Do you?


And lastly the link you SHOULD have cited from wiki is : Anti-abortion violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Who got a death sentence.

And? Would you care to justify why his outburst was labeled as "workplace violence" by the left for me?

Link?

I've heard this talking point a hundred times, but a google search only turns up with Conservative blogs. Do you have a link to the Ft. Hood shooting being called "workplace violence" by any official source?


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The DOD used the word "Terrorism" in describing the event.

Fort Hood shooting initially labeled as 'terrorism,' despite shift to 'workplace violence' | Fox News
 
Who got a death sentence.

And? Would you care to justify why his outburst was labeled as "workplace violence" by the left for me?

You seem really hung up on this? Would people still be alive if they called the incident life givings? It was workplace violence, violence that happened at the work place.

I don't know if or what makes something necessarily makes something "terrorism". Its like trying to describe the perfect turd

It's far more than a matter of semantics. This was terrorism on a military base meaning that the survivors and the families of the dead are eligible for certain benefits including medical care. The ones who were killed and injured are entitled to battlefield medals. Reducing this to workplace violence, as if it was an argument that got out of hand denies military members and their families the benefits of service.

The attack by hasan was no different than any other insider attack. That's the way it should have been treated.
 
And it was called work place volience. Now remember the shooter is Muslim.. Now Fort Hood says watch out for Christians and Tea Party people as terrorist. I swear we are living in the twight light zone. WHEN has a tea party rally result in a death.. I swear this country is going way far left it Is sad


Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups So they are telling soldiers not to deal with them . What if they are Christians. IF they pay a tithe will be reason to believe they are terrorist under Obama.. But a Muslim shoots up the place it work place violence But god forbid if we say something negative about a Muslim.. People we are not in Kansas anymore..

Um, okay, this is nothing new. Active Duty Military are NOT supposed to engage in political activity.

As for Hasan, if the Army had done its job and discharged him when he asked to be discharged, they wouldn't have had a problem.
 
And? Would you care to justify why his outburst was labeled as "workplace violence" by the left for me?

Link?

I've heard this talking point a hundred times, but a google search only turns up with Conservative blogs. Do you have a link to the Ft. Hood shooting being called "workplace violence" by any official source?


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The DOD used the word "Terrorism" in describing the event.

Fort Hood shooting initially labeled as 'terrorism,' despite shift to 'workplace violence' | Fox News

Is there a link to this "workplace violence" meme?
 
And? Would you care to justify why his outburst was labeled as "workplace violence" by the left for me?

You seem really hung up on this? Would people still be alive if they called the incident life givings? It was workplace violence, violence that happened at the work place.

I don't know if or what makes something necessarily makes something "terrorism". Its like trying to describe the perfect turd

It's far more than a matter of semantics. This was terrorism on a military base meaning that the survivors and the families of the dead are eligible for certain benefits including medical care. The ones who were killed and injured are entitled to battlefield medals. Reducing this to workplace violence, as if it was an argument that got out of hand denies military members and their families the benefits of service.

The attack by hasan was no different than any other insider attack. That's the way it should have been treated.

Well that's a good explanation but I seriously doubt that is why TamponKotex is crying about this.
 

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