Do you believe Cohen or Trump?

[edward37]

If Cohen has tapes or documentation to support his claim, then I will tend to believe his version

Obviously, but absent this type of undeniable proof I don't see how anyone can believe either of them.

And for the record unless it was campaign money I dont see what the big deal is.

and paying off those who might throw a monkey wrench into trumps election hopes is no big deal?

no it's not
so what if he got some action??
every man wants it

Too bad he didn't get a blow job Then impeachment was possible

 

[bripat9643]

Trump used his own money, and that's admirable. The congressmen should have this money scratched back IMHO.

he didn't use his own money Polish, he used the Trump Corporation's money, through FAKE and Fraudulent invoices to Cohen, who had also set up a FRAUDULENTLY created corporation for the purpose of simply hiding the hush money....

if he had used his Campaign funds to pay off the ladies of the night, it would have been LEGAL, as long as it was reported...

BUT he used TWO Corporations to pay off the women, at the 11th hour of the election, for the main purpose of hiding these indiscretions from the voting public.... corporate campaign donations, even in kind donations, ARE ILLEGAL and break campaign finance laws.

It's unbelievable how big of a dumbass you are. Did your parents smash your head against the wall when you were young?

The corporation's money is Trump's money. What was "fake" or "fraudulent" about any invoices Cohen submitted to Trump?

They weren't campaign donations, so there was nothing to hide.

I know you will keep repeating this bullshit for the next six years, so I don't know why a bother explaining the facts to you.

 

[nat4900]

Cohen's statements are self-serving nonsense, but even if they were not, they have no bearing on any potential criminality on the part of Our Exalted President.

Cohen has claimed that Trump "knew that the payoffs were wrong."

What the fuck does that even mean? It is clear that such payoffs are entirely legal, and that even if they were politically motivated, they do not constitute campaign finance violations FOR THE CANDIDATE. In the worst, case President Trump would have to revise a finance disclosure and pay a fine. Big deal.

As for Trump's apparent denial of any advance knowledge of the payoffs (which were entirely different from one another), who cares? It was his own money, spent for his own benefit. So what?

Obama got hit for fines on 2 million or so for FEC violations.........did they prosecute him........Nope......he paid a fine and that was the end of it.

Double Standards.......

Minor transgressions that resulted in $350,000 in fines for missing filing dates and providing partial filings. McCain was also fined for similar actions

Trump won't be paying any fine, moron.

Maybe not as President but after the douche leaves

The reality is this........Just because something (like congress subpoena a president) has never happened before, DOES NOT mean that it can't happen.....

Let's see if thee's any decency in the SCOTUS to finally determine if a sitting president is ABOVE the LAW. (or not)

 

[Hutch Starskey]

it's very ambiguous considering the lack of evidence

You meant your lack of interest in the evidence.

 

[edward37]

If Cohen has tapes or documentation to support his claim, then I will tend to believe his version

Obviously, but absent this type of undeniable proof I don't see how anyone can believe either of them.

And for the record unless it was campaign money I dont see what the big deal is.

and paying off those who might throw a monkey wrench into trumps election hopes is no big deal?

Whether it's a "big deal" isn't the issue. It was legal, and that's all that matters.

Hillary paid off a dozen bimbos to smear Trump.

Where do you come up with this garbage. Provide a link that is not Alex Jones, the National Enquirer, or some other right-wing conspiracy site.

Lisa Blum admitted she paid off bimbos willing to smear Trump.

""when you're a star they let you do anything""

 

[bripat9643]

Let's take a look at Cohen, who proved to have lied during the investigation.

Cohen says he's oh so deeply sorry he got involved in Trump's most darkest of worlds. And the proof of that world of darkness? Ah shucks, the depths of Hell was hush money paid to a porn star.............Oh my, how fucking dark, Trump is Satan himself.

For those with a fucking brain, it's clear Cohen's statement was was part of a plea agreement for political causes. It's that or he figure he'd say it on his own expecting leniency, but I'll assume the former. Either way it supports what should be very clear to everyone, which is this investigation stinks and Cohen is creep. But I don't suspect many progressives can follow the logic.

I think Mueller is an experienced enough prosecutor to not take Cohens word on anything. Verify, verify, verify

Mueller is an experienced fuck up. He fucked up the Enron case, the conviction and destruction of Arthur Andersen was overturned by the Supreme Court. He fucked up the Anthrax case against Hatfill that allowed the perp to walk free and cost the taxpayers millions.

Truthfully, he doesn't stand a chance against President Trump.

It's hard to believe these snowflakes are taking these fantasies seriously.

 

[nat4900]

oo bad he didn't get a blow job Then impeachment was possible

Actually he did......and it cost him $130,000 (and THAT was a bargain for the orange clown)........LMAO

 

[bripat9643]

it's very ambiguous considering the lack of evidence

You meant your lack of interest in the evidence.

What "evidence?"

 

[edward37]

oo bad he didn't get a blow job Then impeachment was possible

Actually he did......and it cost him $130,000 (and THAT was a bargain for the orange clown)........LMAO

And he lied about it?? Shades of Bill Clinton

 

[bripat9643]

Cohen has nothing left to gain or prove. He's already been sentenced. No reason to hide or lie any more.

Wrong

Cohen was sentenced based on a plea deal. He MUST maintain the same positions publicly or risk having the deal revoked and a REAL prison sentence imposed.

Wrong

The information he has given had to have some value insofar as being truthful. He couldn’t just make up stuff. The IC would be verifying this information with what Papa said, with what Manafort said, with what dozens of other deposed witnesses said. One cannot just do the keeping up appearances act with the federal prosecutors. It would actually get him more jail time.

Mueller is the one who is making stuff up. They he forced Cohen to plead guilty to it. No one gives a damn whether it's true or not, especially Mueller.

 

[bripat9643]

Cohen's statements are self-serving nonsense, but even if they were not, they have no bearing on any potential criminality on the part of Our Exalted President.

Cohen has claimed that Trump "knew that the payoffs were wrong."

What the fuck does that even mean? It is clear that such payoffs are entirely legal, and that even if they were politically motivated, they do not constitute campaign finance violations FOR THE CANDIDATE. In the worst, case President Trump would have to revise a finance disclosure and pay a fine. Big deal.

As for Trump's apparent denial of any advance knowledge of the payoffs (which were entirely different from one another), who cares? It was his own money, spent for his own benefit. So what?

Obama got hit for fines on 2 million or so for FEC violations.........did they prosecute him........Nope......he paid a fine and that was the end of it.

Double Standards.......

Wrong.

Apples and oranges. Trump and Cohen set up a corporation to handle the payments which is a clear attempt to conceal the source of the money and thus, a criminal act.

It's perfectly legal, numskull. It's done all the time, and George Soros is one of the worst offenders.

 

[edward37]

And remember bri ,the only witch hunt that transpired was the one your repub friends pulled on hillary

 

[bripat9643]

Presidents are free to testify if they want to, but Congress can't force them to.

Has about when they're out of office, DiaperBaby???..........LOL

They aren't presidents then, are they, shit for brains?

 

[bripat9643]

And remember bri ,the only witch hunt that transpired was the one your repub friends pulled on hillary

ROFL! That is seriously hilarious!

 

[Polishprince]

Obviously, but absent this type of undeniable proof I don't see how anyone can believe either of them.

And for the record unless it was campaign money I dont see what the big deal is.

and paying off those who might throw a monkey wrench into trumps election hopes is no big deal?

Whether it's a "big deal" isn't the issue. It was legal, and that's all that matters.

Hillary paid off a dozen bimbos to smear Trump.

Where do you come up with this garbage. Provide a link that is not Alex Jones, the National Enquirer, or some other right-wing conspiracy site.

Lisa Blum admitted she paid off bimbos willing to smear Trump.

""when you're a star they let you do anything""

From the NBC/Bush Family October Surprise video they held until the last minute thinking that it would trip up the Trumpster. And just like that move, this will fail as well.

The best thing about the Access Hollywood tape is that it put to rest forever the myth that NBC and the Lame Stream Media are "impartial". It wasn't that they released it, but the fact they released it with the intent of rigging the election in favor of Clinton.

 

[otto105]

Both have told different stories to different people. Neither are trustworthy imo.
Cohen imo is not a credible witness.

Given trump’s ability to lie, what other answer is possible?

 

[bripat9643]

Yeah, it's really "something" when people respond naturally to extortion.

Most co-defendants who rat out on the main crook, would agree with the above....lol

There is no "main crook," shit for brains.

 

[edward37]

Yeah, it's really "something" when people respond naturally to extortion.

Most co-defendants who rat out on the main crook, would agree with the above....lol

There is no "main crook," shit for brains.

BAD NEWS Bri
Cohen: Special counsel has 'substantial amount of information that corroborates' my testimony

 

[bripat9643]

Yeah, it's really "something" when people respond naturally to extortion.

Most co-defendants who rat out on the main crook, would agree with the above....lol

There is no "main crook," shit for brains.

BAD NEWS Bri
Cohen: Special counsel has 'substantial amount of information that corroborates' my testimony

More horseshit from the puppet with Mueller's hand up his ass. If Mueller had anything, they wouldn't be sentencing Cohen because after they do they lose all leverage over him.

 

[eagle1462010]

But he could accomplish this better by staying off the TV. He has nothing to gain by broadcasting it. He is more credible just because of his current position.

That is an absurd conclusion.

His release date will be dictated by his behavior from the date of conviction to his ultimate release. He knows this VERY WELL as a lawyer and will continue to do everything in his power to manipulate the way he is perceived in order to achieve the earliest release possible.

You seem very naive

Anyone who believes Her Muller will EVER put Cohen on the witness stand is fucking delusional!
It's a good thing Cohen is not a witness against Hillary. He'd commit suicide by shooting himself in the back of his head five times.
Cohen will be disbarred and end up working at a 'Cinnabon' somewhere in Nevada when he gets out.

The bigger question would be putting Trump on the witness stand.

When pressured, Trumps default seems to be to lie. I can’t see him testifying under oath

Why the hell should he testify.......so you can have another Perjury Trap............How about taking the 5th and telling you to shove the questions where the sun doesn't shine...........

Everyone has that right including the President.

I think a sitting President taking the 5th would be interesting to say the least.

He would be admitting to law breaking publicly

He admits to nothing.............and if that is true the Loretta Lynch the same.........As is that slime bucket from the IRS Louis Lerner...........destroyed evidence and took the 5th.........imagaine that.