do we have any antifa members here ?

[Timmy]

Why do apologists suggest Antifa is anti-fascist when in fact they are fascists?

Counter protesting neonazis is facscist!? What more fascist than nazis!!!

Oh look, Timmy suggests the good Antifa only attacks NAZI as opposed to labeling all Conservatives NAZI. Fact Timmy, it's you who is on the side of Fascism. The evidence the left is on the side of fascism is overwhelming:

Labeling ? I'm thinking what happened in VA . They had nazi flags !

Who the hell is antifa anyway ? Some young trouble makers looking to stick it to the man?? You find that type on both ends .

Oh look...........Timmy explains by one of MANY examples, Antifa, never-mind liberals in general, they only attack those with NAZI flags.

Well you are allowed to label with impunity, why not me?

You are just using "antifa " as a boogeyman to spread righty propaganda .

 

[TheDude]

Why do apologists suggest Antifa is anti-fascist when in fact they are fascists?

Counter protesting neonazis is facscist!? What more fascist than nazis!!!

Oh look, Timmy suggests the good Antifa only attacks NAZI as opposed to labeling all Conservatives NAZI. Fact Timmy, it's you who is on the side of Fascism. The evidence the left is on the side of fascism is overwhelming:

Labeling ? I'm thinking what happened in VA . They had nazi flags !

Who the hell is antifa anyway ? Some young trouble makers looking to stick it to the man?? You find that type on both ends .

Oh look...........Timmy explains by one of MANY examples, Antifa, never-mind liberals in general, they only attack those with NAZI flags.

Well you are allowed to label with impunity, why not me?

You are just using "antifa " as a boogeyman to spread righty propaganda .

No, you're just a dishonest person, and not much of a spine.

 

[Anathema]

I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT ONE!!!!

No. I'm on the other side. Though I DO love their black attire. A RedDot shows up so beautifully against that backdrop when looking through a rifle sight.

 

[OldLady]

i'm curious about the big bang that led the brain trust of antifa picking the kkk, say over the westboro church, or some ruby ridge types.

it reminded me at first of when stephanopolous teed up the question for romney that started the war on women.
can you tell us, were the statues and memorials always part of the plan ?

would someone here admit to being in antifa ?

They don't admit it. Anarchists aren't that hard to spot, though.

You're a very confused woman.

How so?

Antifa and anarchists are not one and the same. While Antifa espouse strong central government and restrictions of freedom of speech, leaving them little different than the fascists they claim to oppose, anarchists believe in no government at all. They are in fact at opposite ends of the spectrum of libertarianism. In truth Antifa are the remaining dregs of communism and formed as such when communism became no was cool.

Having said that, they both are scruffy and low life so their appearance is similar

When I googled Antifa and have read articles talking about Antifa, they have been described as both adherents of anarchy and communism. I am aware that one cannot be both at the same time. Antifa, being a very loose and decentralized movement, has BOTH in its midst. And the ones spitting on and attacking cops for no reason are behaving more like anarchists than communists, imo.
ANTIFA was formed in 1932 in response to the rise of the Nazi's. I did not realize that communism had become not cool at that point.

 

[PredFan]

They are cowards. They hide behind masks, attack from behind, beat old people and women, they aren't going to have the balls to admit that they are. Of course here in anonymity they might. They are cowards.

 

[OldLady]

I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT ONE!!!!

No. I'm on the other side. Though I DO love their black attire. A RedDot shows up so beautifully against that backdrop when looking through a rifle sight.

Like the universe, the spectrum of political thought at the very far ends on both sides come close to meeting. A circle, rather than a line.

 

[Anathema]

Like the universe, the spectrum of political thought at the very far ends on both sides come close to meeting. A circle, rather than a line.

The far ends of both sides may look similar to some, but they are definitely not.

 

[miketx]

i'm curious about the big bang that led the brain trust of antifa picking the kkk, say over the westboro church, or some ruby ridge types.

it reminded me at first of when stephanopolous teed up the question for romney that started the war on women.
can you tell us, were the statues and memorials always part of the plan ?

would someone here admit to being in antifa ?

Antifa is just far right propaganda boogeymen.

Bullshit. They are all leftist traitors.

 

[Thinker101]

i'm curious about the big bang that led the brain trust of antifa picking the kkk, say over the westboro church, or some ruby ridge types.

it reminded me at first of when stephanopolous teed up the question for romney that started the war on women.
can you tell us, were the statues and memorials always part of the plan ?

would someone here admit to being in antifa ?

They don't admit it. Anarchists aren't that hard to spot, though.

You're a very confused woman.

How so?

Antifa and anarchists are not one and the same. While Antifa espouse strong central government and restrictions of freedom of speech, leaving them little different than the fascists they claim to oppose, anarchists believe in no government at all. They are in fact at opposite ends of the spectrum of libertarianism. In truth Antifa are the remaining dregs of communism and formed as such when communism became no was cool.

Having said that, they both are scruffy and low life so their appearance is similar

When I googled Antifa and have read articles talking about Antifa, they have been described as both adherents of anarchy and communism. I am aware that one cannot be both at the same time. Antifa, being a very loose and decentralized movement, has BOTH in its midst. And the ones spitting on and attacking cops for no reason are behaving more like anarchists than communists, imo.
ANTIFA was formed in 1932 in response to the rise of the Nazi's. I did not realize that communism had become not cool at that point.

Imagine that, sounds a lot like Occupy Wall Street and BLM.

 

[Meathead]

i'm curious about the big bang that led the brain trust of antifa picking the kkk, say over the westboro church, or some ruby ridge types.

it reminded me at first of when stephanopolous teed up the question for romney that started the war on women.
can you tell us, were the statues and memorials always part of the plan ?

would someone here admit to being in antifa ?

They don't admit it. Anarchists aren't that hard to spot, though.

You're a very confused woman.

How so?

Antifa and anarchists are not one and the same. While Antifa espouse strong central government and restrictions of freedom of speech, leaving them little different than the fascists they claim to oppose, anarchists believe in no government at all. They are in fact at opposite ends of the spectrum of libertarianism. In truth Antifa are the remaining dregs of communism and formed as such when communism became no was cool.

Having said that, they both are scruffy and low life so their appearance is similar

When I googled Antifa and have read articles talking about Antifa, they have been described as both adherents of anarchy and communism. I am aware that one cannot be both at the same time. Antifa, being a very loose and decentralized movement, has BOTH in its midst. And the ones spitting on and attacking cops for no reason are behaving more like anarchists than communists, imo.
ANTIFA was formed in 1932 in response to the rise of the Nazi's. I did not realize that communism had become not cool at that point.

I sincerely hope you are not a teacher of history. The rise of the anti-Facist groups bear little in common with the low lives of today's Antifa.

Presumably from the same source you found:

Contemporary Antifa in Germany "has no practical historical connection to the movement from which it takes its name, but is instead a product of West Germany’s squatter scene and autonomist movement in the 1980s."[1] Many new Antifa groups formed from the late 1980s onwards. One of the biggest antifascist campaigns in Germany in recent years was the, ultimately successful, effort to block the annual Nazi-rallies in the east German city of Dresden in Saxony, which had grown into "Europe's biggest gathering of Nazis".[7]

In October 2016, the Antifa in Dresden campaigned on the occasion of the anniversary of the reunification of Germany on 3 October for "turning Unity celebrations into a disaster" („Einheitsfeierlichkeiten zum Desaster machen“), to protest this display of new German nationalism, whilst explicitly not ruling out the use of violence.[8]

The American Antifa of the early 21st-century has drawn its aesthetics and some of its tactics from the original German organization.[9

 

[washamericom]

The Regressives will criticize Antifa and pretend there is no connection on one thread, then turn around and defend them on another.

Probably defending them is more about defending the left that too many unfairly accuse of being violent communists. It's hard to argue rationally with idiots like that throwing mud bombs.

Even in college you couldn't talk to some people reasonably. They were off the rails in their anarchist beliefs. It's like they had a checklist of issues and if you didn't comply with their opinions on each and every one you were the enemy.

Unfortunately some on our side fall into that same trap nowadays...

There are unreasonable people everywhere, I guess. I can't for the life of me see how anarchists think their ideas would work, but they are welcome to them as long as they don't expect everyone to agree with them. ANTIFA is a puzzling organization. Some people tolerate them because they are anti-fascist, and to be honest, who isn't? But their political beliefs and their violent tactics are not at all a good fit in this country.

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? What is your point?

they instigate in the name of peace. for a terrorist effect and subsequent reaction. all against "hate". occupy wall street without the weed.

 

[washamericom]

i'm curious about the big bang that led the brain trust of antifa picking the kkk, say over the westboro church, or some ruby ridge types.

it reminded me at first of when stephanopolous teed up the question for romney that started the war on women.
can you tell us, were the statues and memorials always part of the plan ?

would someone here admit to being in antifa ?

Antifa is just far right propaganda boogeymen.

but can you name the top five leaders of antifa ? not if they're here.

this thread wasn't intended as a vehicle to out anyone. but i'm trying to get a sense of who these people are, more importantly is what they'll do next,
if it will effect my kids or my brother, or my grandmother the cop, just about to retire after a lifetime of service. (figuratively).

these are the people we need to protect, here, now today.

so i will do anything i can to help the cops deal with another bill ayers bernardine dorhn anarchistic reign of localised domestic terror, which seems to be evolving before our eyes.

in my eyes, obama and his minions own it. and not the tony rezko kind of "owning it".

there are a lot of fine people on all sides that agree.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Antifa is just far right propaganda boogeymen.

The KKK and Neo-Nazis are a STAPLE of the ENTIRE left's boogyman propaganda!!!

 

[OldLady]

They don't admit it. Anarchists aren't that hard to spot, though.

You're a very confused woman.

How so?

Antifa and anarchists are not one and the same. While Antifa espouse strong central government and restrictions of freedom of speech, leaving them little different than the fascists they claim to oppose, anarchists believe in no government at all. They are in fact at opposite ends of the spectrum of libertarianism. In truth Antifa are the remaining dregs of communism and formed as such when communism became no was cool.

Having said that, they both are scruffy and low life so their appearance is similar

When I googled Antifa and have read articles talking about Antifa, they have been described as both adherents of anarchy and communism. I am aware that one cannot be both at the same time. Antifa, being a very loose and decentralized movement, has BOTH in its midst. And the ones spitting on and attacking cops for no reason are behaving more like anarchists than communists, imo.
ANTIFA was formed in 1932 in response to the rise of the Nazi's. I did not realize that communism had become not cool at that point.

Imagine that, sounds a lot like Occupy Wall Street and BLM.

I didn't know they were the same folks?

 

[OldLady]

They don't admit it. Anarchists aren't that hard to spot, though.

You're a very confused woman.

How so?

Antifa and anarchists are not one and the same. While Antifa espouse strong central government and restrictions of freedom of speech, leaving them little different than the fascists they claim to oppose, anarchists believe in no government at all. They are in fact at opposite ends of the spectrum of libertarianism. In truth Antifa are the remaining dregs of communism and formed as such when communism became no was cool.

Having said that, they both are scruffy and low life so their appearance is similar

When I googled Antifa and have read articles talking about Antifa, they have been described as both adherents of anarchy and communism. I am aware that one cannot be both at the same time. Antifa, being a very loose and decentralized movement, has BOTH in its midst. And the ones spitting on and attacking cops for no reason are behaving more like anarchists than communists, imo.
ANTIFA was formed in 1932 in response to the rise of the Nazi's. I did not realize that communism had become not cool at that point.

I sincerely hope you are not a teacher of history. The rise of the anti-Facist groups bear little in common with the low lives of today's Antifa.

Presumably from the same source you found:

Contemporary Antifa in Germany "has no practical historical connection to the movement from which it takes its name, but is instead a product of West Germany’s squatter scene and autonomist movement in the 1980s."[1] Many new Antifa groups formed from the late 1980s onwards. One of the biggest antifascist campaigns in Germany in recent years was the, ultimately successful, effort to block the annual Nazi-rallies in the east German city of Dresden in Saxony, which had grown into "Europe's biggest gathering of Nazis".[7]

In October 2016, the Antifa in Dresden campaigned on the occasion of the anniversary of the reunification of Germany on 3 October for "turning Unity celebrations into a disaster" („Einheitsfeierlichkeiten zum Desaster machen“), to protest this display of new German nationalism, whilst explicitly not ruling out the use of violence.[8]

The American Antifa of the early 21st-century has drawn its aesthetics and some of its tactics from the original German organization.[9

Yes. I skimmed past what the org. is doing in Germany, since I live in the U.S. And the last sentence seems to bear out my point.
But no matter. I don't profess to be an expert on these people. If it makes you feel better, we'll say your expert opinion is MUCH better than mine.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The Regressives will criticize Antifa and pretend there is no connection on one thread, then turn around and defend them on another.

Probably defending them is more about defending the left that too many unfairly accuse of being violent communists. It's hard to argue rationally with idiots like that throwing mud bombs.

The ones throwing the mud are on the tv EVERY TIME they gather. Your fellow leftists that have been brainwashed by your years of over the top rhetoric

 

[Meathead]

You're a very confused woman.

How so?

Antifa and anarchists are not one and the same. While Antifa espouse strong central government and restrictions of freedom of speech, leaving them little different than the fascists they claim to oppose, anarchists believe in no government at all. They are in fact at opposite ends of the spectrum of libertarianism. In truth Antifa are the remaining dregs of communism and formed as such when communism became no was cool.

Having said that, they both are scruffy and low life so their appearance is similar

When I googled Antifa and have read articles talking about Antifa, they have been described as both adherents of anarchy and communism. I am aware that one cannot be both at the same time. Antifa, being a very loose and decentralized movement, has BOTH in its midst. And the ones spitting on and attacking cops for no reason are behaving more like anarchists than communists, imo.
ANTIFA was formed in 1932 in response to the rise of the Nazi's. I did not realize that communism had become not cool at that point.

I sincerely hope you are not a teacher of history. The rise of the anti-Facist groups bear little in common with the low lives of today's Antifa.

Presumably from the same source you found:

Contemporary Antifa in Germany "has no practical historical connection to the movement from which it takes its name, but is instead a product of West Germany’s squatter scene and autonomist movement in the 1980s."[1] Many new Antifa groups formed from the late 1980s onwards. One of the biggest antifascist campaigns in Germany in recent years was the, ultimately successful, effort to block the annual Nazi-rallies in the east German city of Dresden in Saxony, which had grown into "Europe's biggest gathering of Nazis".[7]

In October 2016, the Antifa in Dresden campaigned on the occasion of the anniversary of the reunification of Germany on 3 October for "turning Unity celebrations into a disaster" („Einheitsfeierlichkeiten zum Desaster machen“), to protest this display of new German nationalism, whilst explicitly not ruling out the use of violence.[8]

The American Antifa of the early 21st-century has drawn its aesthetics and some of its tactics from the original German organization.[9

Yes. I skimmed past what the org. is doing in Germany, since I live in the U.S. And the last sentence seems to bear out my point.
But no matter. I don't profess to be an expert on these people. If it makes you feel better, we'll say your expert opinion is MUCH better than mine.

It is not a matter of opinion my dear. It is a matter of being informed.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You're a very confused woman.

How so?

Antifa and anarchists are not one and the same. While Antifa espouse strong central government and restrictions of freedom of speech, leaving them little different than the fascists they claim to oppose, anarchists believe in no government at all. They are in fact at opposite ends of the spectrum of libertarianism. In truth Antifa are the remaining dregs of communism and formed as such when communism became no was cool.

Having said that, they both are scruffy and low life so their appearance is similar

When I googled Antifa and have read articles talking about Antifa, they have been described as both adherents of anarchy and communism. I am aware that one cannot be both at the same time. Antifa, being a very loose and decentralized movement, has BOTH in its midst. And the ones spitting on and attacking cops for no reason are behaving more like anarchists than communists, imo.
ANTIFA was formed in 1932 in response to the rise of the Nazi's. I did not realize that communism had become not cool at that point.

Imagine that, sounds a lot like Occupy Wall Street and BLM.

I didn't know they were the same folks?

They are. They fuck up their public image so bad they have to regroup every few years. They are transpolitical leftists. Switch positions on a dime but ALWAYS still promoting retarded bullshit that defies logic

 

[washamericom]

They don't admit it. Anarchists aren't that hard to spot, though.

You're a very confused woman.

How so?

Antifa and anarchists are not one and the same. While Antifa espouse strong central government and restrictions of freedom of speech, leaving them little different than the fascists they claim to oppose, anarchists believe in no government at all. They are in fact at opposite ends of the spectrum of libertarianism. In truth Antifa are the remaining dregs of communism and formed as such when communism became no was cool.

Having said that, they both are scruffy and low life so their appearance is similar

When I googled Antifa and have read articles talking about Antifa, they have been described as both adherents of anarchy and communism. I am aware that one cannot be both at the same time. Antifa, being a very loose and decentralized movement, has BOTH in its midst. And the ones spitting on and attacking cops for no reason are behaving more like anarchists than communists, imo.
ANTIFA was formed in 1932 in response to the rise of the Nazi's. I did not realize that communism had become not cool at that point.

Imagine that, sounds a lot like Occupy Wall Street and BLM.

i'll bet there are some common lists of actors between them. some are from russia.

 

[OldLady]

Good article here with some background on Antifa. "Transpolitical leftists" seems to be a good term for them. I don't agree with them. Violence is not called for at this point.

‘Antifa’ Grows as Left-Wing Faction Set to, Literally, Fight the Far Right