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How stupid can you be? Without Kasich and Rubio, the Dems win those states, because the states won't vote for Trump.Florida and Ohio will go dem if the R's nominate kasich. They'll hand the crown to queen hilary.
How stupid can you be? Without Kasich and Rubio, the Dems win those states, because the states won't vote for Trump.Florida and Ohio will go dem if the R's nominate kasich. They'll hand the crown to queen hilary.
Most of the dems I talk to like Trump a hell of a lot more than they like Hillary.
But my friends are mostly blue collar working stiffs...the high brow liberal elites probably love Hillary.
And it would appear that they also live in Missouri.View attachment 59069
Crossover appeal means that the candidate can be viable in at least a few states that Obama won in 2012. None of them have shown that so far.
I've got friends all over the country. I lease my trucks to UPS for Christmas overflow...so I just got back from a month of a half of that. Those guys (and gals) are all union and Trump was the big talk in the politics department. And he was garnering a lot of support among them.
Conversely...I wore a "Bush 2004" hat to a union jobsite once...and they ran me off the property...literally.
Now, just so you don't get the wrong idea...I'm a pro-union Republican. My grandfather was a Pennsylvania coal miner. Without the union, I likely wouldn't be here today.
Coincidentally, Drudge is running this headline today from Politico.
Ask JoeB131 ... he's hearing the same thing in Chicago.SEIU chief says Trump can win
The head of the Service Employees International Union is worried about what Donald Trump is stirring up in her 2.1 million members, because she thinks he can win.
In an interview with David Axelrod out Thursday, Mary Kay Henry said her organization is going into “hyperdrive” to stand up against Trump because she sees him as a real threat.
Read more: SEIU chief says Trump can win
Nearly four years ago, the point was made that, "
WASHINGTON (AP) — The top two contenders for the Republican presidential nomination are accusing each other of benefiting from the support of crossover Democratic voters in states that allow anyone to participate in a party primary. // And both are correct. Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum have each worked to woo independent voters and conservative Democrats during campaign appearances. While it may be anathema to their hard-core GOP supporters, it's an acknowledgement of the kind of crossover appeal that any GOP nominee will need in November if he's to defeat President Barack Obama.
SPIN METER: GOP candidates hype crossover appeal
We know that Donald is not nearly as popular as was Mitt with the cross overs, and Mitt got his head handed to him. In fact, Donald has the least cross over appeal than his GOP rivals. Trump has the least cross-over appeal | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum Toro has already shown this and nothing disputes it.
Who besides a Socialist Moonbat would vote for Hillary??
Most of the dems I talk to like Trump a hell of a lot more than they like Hillary.
But my friends are mostly blue collar working stiffs...the high brow liberal elites probably love Hillary.
According to Rush, Trump's biggest support comes from what used to be known as "Reagan democrats". As a matter of fact Trump seems to be more popular among "crossovers" than establishment republicans. Who would cross over to vote for Hillary, illegal aliens?
Are you trying to say that mitt was a far right pol, right after I told you that he was moderate milktoast?Can't win without the center as MR found out. The far right by itself cannot carry an election.Mitt was moderate milktoast
as vanilla as a rep can be
and he lost
so the whole grabbing the middle is bullshit.
so how's about we look at the most upright pol that sticks to his beliefs and doesn't tell me what I want to hear for my vote?
that would be refreshing.
No, he did not carry the middle, or he would have been elected. Are you trying to say he did not attract the conservatives, because he sure did.Are you trying to say that mitt was a far right pol, right after I told you that he was moderate milktoast? he carried the middle, conservatives voted for him b/c he wasn't obama, those that voted, that is.Can't win without the center as MR found out. The far right by itself cannot carry an election.Mitt was moderate milktoast
as vanilla as a rep can be
and he lost
so the whole grabbing the middle is bullshit.
so how's about we look at the most upright pol that sticks to his beliefs and doesn't tell me what I want to hear for my vote?
that would be refreshing.
Can't win without the center as MR found out. The far right by itself cannot carry an election.Mitt was moderate milktoast
as vanilla as a rep can be
and he lost
so the whole grabbing the middle is bullshit.
so how's about we look at the most upright pol that sticks to his beliefs and doesn't tell me what I want to hear for my vote?
that would be refreshing.
The "Far Right" plus conservative Democrats can, as Reagan showed.
Reagan couldn't win the nomination in today's GOP. His record on guns, immigration, spending, and abortion would automatically disqualify him.
The World is a far different place. REagans' positions would be different.
In the 80s Reagan demonstrated that a conservative Republican could appeal to the Conservative Democrats and win.
Trumps Trade and Immigration policies are a natural to sell in the Rust Belt and Swing southern states.
Lol. I don't mean rhetoric. I mean his record as governor of California.
Swing Southern states? In order to win the presidency, the GOP nominee needs a virtual sweep of swing states
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272 electoral votes
Trump has disqualified himself from winning Nevada and New Mexico (and probably Florida as well), so he's out.
moderate milk toast mitt is from the middleNo, he did not carry the middle, or he would have been elected. Are you trying to say he did not attract the conservatives, because he sure did.Are you trying to say that mitt was a far right pol, right after I told you that he was moderate milktoast? he carried the middle, conservatives voted for him b/c he wasn't obama, those that voted, that is.Can't win without the center as MR found out. The far right by itself cannot carry an election.Mitt was moderate milktoast
as vanilla as a rep can be
and he lost
so the whole grabbing the middle is bullshit.
so how's about we look at the most upright pol that sticks to his beliefs and doesn't tell me what I want to hear for my vote?
that would be refreshing.
you can't ban people in America and claim you are an AmericanCan't win without the center as MR found out. The far right by itself cannot carry an election.
The "Far Right" plus conservative Democrats can, as Reagan showed.
Reagan couldn't win the nomination in today's GOP. His record on guns, immigration, spending, and abortion would automatically disqualify him.
The World is a far different place. REagans' positions would be different.
In the 80s Reagan demonstrated that a conservative Republican could appeal to the Conservative Democrats and win.
Trumps Trade and Immigration policies are a natural to sell in the Rust Belt and Swing southern states.
Lol. I don't mean rhetoric. I mean his record as governor of California.
Swing Southern states? In order to win the presidency, the GOP nominee needs a virtual sweep of swing states
View attachment 59071
272 electoral votes
Trump has disqualified himself from winning Nevada and New Mexico (and probably Florida as well), so he's out.
Trump is disgusting. He is disqualified here in Florida.
Florida Mayor Bans Donald Trump From St. Petersburg
Along with the center. Trump does not have the center.Can't win without the center as MR found out. The far right by itself cannot carry an election.Mitt was moderate milktoast
as vanilla as a rep can be
and he lost
so the whole grabbing the middle is bullshit.
so how's about we look at the most upright pol that sticks to his beliefs and doesn't tell me what I want to hear for my vote?
that would be refreshing.
The "Far Right" plus conservative Democrats can, as Reagan showed.
Thank you for agreeing that Trump needs the center to win. They each will win or lose the election right there if they are the general election candidates.Along with the center. Trump does not have the center.Can't win without the center as MR found out. The far right by itself cannot carry an election.Mitt was moderate milktoast
as vanilla as a rep can be
and he lost
so the whole grabbing the middle is bullshit.
so how's about we look at the most upright pol that sticks to his beliefs and doesn't tell me what I want to hear for my vote?
that would be refreshing.
The "Far Right" plus conservative Democrats can, as Reagan showed.
Last I looked he was polling at 47% against Hillary. That's a big chunk of the center in there. And he has a long time yet to grow it, And Hillary has a long time to shrink hers.
