Did Blinken just announce WWIII?

[martybegan]

You won't need to worry if they do, because we will all be dead or dying.

Actually that depends on how the independent powers if NATO that control Nuclear weapons respond. I picked those cities becauee they are either Ukrainian or NATO member States with no nukes.

This would be a limited intimidation strike by Russia, to feel out if the US, France or the UK have the balls to reply in kind if their own territories are not nuked.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Ok. Obviously, you are not a serious poster.

Why Do You Expect Anyone to Take You Seriously?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Its always the same group

They Divided Up Berlin to Provoke the Cold War

Don't believe the preached doctrine that they actually believed the Soviet Union could get along with the West. Everything they did was to keep the lucrative Cold War going.

Another thing they never let us question is why didn't they train and arm freedom-fighters to overthrow the governments in Eastern Europe, just as the Soviets were doing in the "non-aligned" nations. Voice of America was useless, cowardly, and insulting as a weapon against Communism. And there were no Alger Hiss-types infiltrating the Soviet government. No Rosenbergs or Kim Philbys in reverse.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

who do you think are Americas "Oligarchs"

The Richkid Reich

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

First of all, no. . . it is





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No One Dares to Say That "Color of the Skin" Is a Strawman

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Russia’s economy once again defies the doomsayers

As an election nears, Vladimir Putin now looks to have inflation under control

www.economist.com

Putin Ain't Puddin' Tame

He's playing three-dimensional chess while ByeDone is playing tiddlywinks.

 

[IM2]

Putin doesn't buff or make idle threats.
Ukraine becoming a member of NATO is stepping over Putin's red line.
Nuclear war is inevitable if the NATO nitwits refuse to take him seriously and go ahead with their idiotic plan.

F--- Putin. He doesn't want nuclear war as he will surely die.

 

[MisterBeale]

No One Dares to Say That "Color of the Skin" Is a Strawman

When folks use the color of skin in arguments, or any identity class, that is a type of ad hominem fallacy.
. . . and you are correct, it is corrosive.

While it is closely related, it is distinct. That is the same as attacking a source you link, without actually reading the material and pointing out why it is invalid or counterfactual to the debate.

Ad Hominem Fallacy (18 Examples + Definition) - Practical Psychology

You've probably stumbled across people arguing by attacking someone's character instead of their ideas. Maybe you've even been guilty of this yourself.

practicalpie.com

". . .The use of ad hominem fallacies can have a corrosive effect on public and private discourse.

First and foremost, it distracts from the real issues. When someone uses an ad hominem attack, it diverts the conversation away from the subject matter, making it difficult to resolve the actual point of contention. This kind of diversion tactic is not just unproductive; it also fosters an environment where emotional manipulation trumps reason and evidence.

Additionally, ad hominem attacks can damage reputations. The focus shifts from debating ideas to smearing individuals, which can have long-lasting impacts on how people are viewed, both professionally and socially. This is often used in political debates or against a political opponent's argument as a way to create an unfavorable reputation.

In some cases, a direct attack can lead to individuals being hesitant to speak out or share their opinions for fear of personal or abusive ad hominem attack, stifling open debate and the free exchange of ideas. While this may occasionally be properly justified, such attacks are most often just dirty tricks used against the opponent's character in such a way that they feel the need to defend themselves. It's rarely directly relevant to the discussion topic. . . "

 

[MisterBeale]

F--- Putin. He doesn't want nuclear war as he will surely die.

If, like Saddam Hussein, or Muammar Gaddafi, he is sure he and the oligarchs he represents will fall and be killed anyway?

He will use them. We can be sure of this.

He might use a tactical nuke, maybe take out a Carrier, or some major piece of infrastructur to show he is serious first. . . but we will know before the whole world goes.

. . . the folks in Brussels and D.C. have lost their ever-loving minds if they think Russia will go down w/o taking the west with them. . .

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Actually that depends on how the independent powers if NATO that control Nuclear weapons respond. I picked those cities becauee they are either Ukrainian or NATO member States with no nukes.

This would be a limited intimidation strike by Russia, to feel out if the US, France or the UK have the balls to reply in kind if their own territories are not nuked.

The MAD policy says that ANY use of a nuclear weapon leads to a massive response.

 

[martybegan]

The MAD policy says that ANY use of a nuclear weapon leads to a massive response.

MAD is set around either a massive first strike followed by a massive retaliatory strike, or an escalating set of smaller strikes of increasing size resulting in the same type of massive exchange.

The issue is how would the US, France and GB react if the Russians just took out those three cities and then threatened full retaliation for any strike on Russian soil?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

When folks use the color of skin in arguments, or any identity class, that is a type of ad hominem fallacy.
. . . and you are correct, it is corrosive.

While it is closely related, it is distinct. That is the same as attacking a source you link, without actually reading the material and pointing out why it is invalid or counterfactual to the debate.

Ad Hominem Fallacy (18 Examples + Definition) - Practical Psychology

You've probably stumbled across people arguing by attacking someone's character instead of their ideas. Maybe you've even been guilty of this yourself.

practicalpie.com

". . .The use of ad hominem fallacies can have a corrosive effect on public and private discourse.

First and foremost, it distracts from the real issues. When someone uses an ad hominem attack, it diverts the conversation away from the subject matter, making it difficult to resolve the actual point of contention. This kind of diversion tactic is not just unproductive; it also fosters an environment where emotional manipulation trumps reason and evidence.

Additionally, ad hominem attacks can damage reputations. The focus shifts from debating ideas to smearing individuals, which can have long-lasting impacts on how people are viewed, both professionally and socially. This is often used in political debates or against a political opponent's argument as a way to create an unfavorable reputation.

In some cases, a direct attack can lead to individuals being hesitant to speak out or share their opinions for fear of personal or abusive ad hominem attack, stifling open debate and the free exchange of ideas. While this may occasionally be properly justified, such attacks are most often just dirty tricks used against the opponent's character in such a way that they feel the need to defend themselves. It's rarely directly relevant to the discussion topic. . . "

What Happens When We're Never Told It Is a Strawman

It's a strawman because it accuses someone of being so stupid he'd judge by something as superficial as skin color, rather than a race's typical behavior. I always compare it to someone saying that the only reason midgets aren't playing in the NBA is that coaches don't like their munchkin voices. Can you think of other comparisons ignoring any sensible justification and making up an absurd one insulting the accused?

Ad Hominem would attack an actual characteristic of the accused, but one that is irrelevant.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

MAD is set around either a massive first strike followed by a massive retaliatory strike, or an escalating set of smaller strikes of increasing size resulting in the same type of massive exchange.

The issue is how would the US, France and GB react if the Russians just took out those three cities and then threatened full retaliation for any strike on Russian soil?

Pardon me, but as a former nuclear weapons officer, I did not realize that your expertise exceeded mine.

 

[Faun]

What’s left of Ukraine to even join NATO?

This is just begging for WWIII!

Please send every democrat politician to Kiev

No question, Biden loses the election if that happens. I won't vote for him.

 

[AntonToo]

Putin doesn't buff or make idle threats.

You clearly haven’t kept track.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No question, Biden loses the election if that happens. I won't vote for him.

There is virtually no possibility we will have an untainted election in November

 

[Faun]

There is virtually no possibility we will have an untainted election in November

Fortunately for America, your opinion comes from a person who still hallucinates the 2020 election was stolen from Trump.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Fortunately for America, your opinion comes from a person who still hallucinates the 2020 election was stolen from Trump.

It might be another Pandemic, world war, EMP posing as a solar flare, something massive because a few million dead is a small price to pay to have democrats win in November

 

[Faun]

It might be another Pandemic, world war, EMP posing as a solar flare, something massive because a few million dead is a small price to pay to have democrats win in November

 

[CrusaderFrank]