Dems counting on People over 55 being Ignorant?

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    Not only is the Left miss characterizing the Ryan plan as the End of Medicare, but they seem to be hoping to scare people who are over 55 right now into voting against it.

    I guess they are betting that people over 55 are to stupid to understand that they will not be effected at all by the Ryan plan because they are Already over 55?

    Can't believe the American People are falling for this BS from the left. I mean I don't think the Ryan plan is perfect, or the only way, But the Left seems to just want to ignore the Problem all together. To Actually say there is nothing wrong with Medicare as it is and nothing needs to be done. Which if People were smart, they would understand, is the Real Threat to Medicare. Doing Nothing.

    The Democrats have quickly taken over the slot as the party of no. 2 Years and no Budget, and no willingness to even discuss entitlement reforms. They should change the Democrat party logo to an ostrich. the Party of "lets just keep our heads buried in the sand and spend out selves into ruin, Fuck the Grand kids!"
     
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    People who operate on emotion seek to influence others by emotion.

    That's all they've got.
     
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    Indeed.
     
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    Correct. NO ONE in the system now will be affected BY the plan...and the plan gives ample time for those future recipients to make plans...LOTS of time.

    More the elderly will be forced to choose between medicine/dogfood crap by the left.

    WHERE are the Repubicans in the Senate?

    Absent and from BLUE States.
     
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    It’s not the ‘Dems’ you have to take issue with – your own conservative newspaper, the WSJ, stated: “The plan would essentially end Medicare’

    GOP Budget Aim: Cut $4 Trillion From Spending - WSJ.com

    There is no ‘scaring’ going on – the fact is the GOP plan will end Medicare and replace the program with vouchers used by those retired to buy healthcare. For middle and low income retirees the vouchers may not be sufficient to cover all medical costs required to be paid out-of-pocket.

    The issue is moot, anyway – it was voted down in the Senate with five republicans joining the democrats.

    So again, take the issue up with fellow republicans and conservatives, those republicans in the Senate who voted against the plan, and the republicans who voted for a democrat in NY 26.
     
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    This is false on its face. The Republican budget reopens the donut hole for Medicare drug coverage, it eliminates the free wellness visits and preventive care benefits that were recently added to Medicare, it slashes Medicaid which helps low-income seniors pay for their Medicare Part B premiums and cost-sharing, as well as long-term care and other health services used by low-income seniors.

    That said, even if you weren't mistaken, so what? Medicare is a very popular program, particularly among that cohort. Do you think the average senior is content to see it destroyed, just so long as she gets hers? It turns out quite a few of those folks aren't happy to see Medicare dismantled for their children and grandchildren, even if they themselves benefit from Ryan's carve-out. So no, no one's betting on seniors being stupid; folks are betting that seniors are generally not as craven and self-centered as the arguments the Republicans are banking on assume they are. And that bet seems to be paying off.
     
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    55 is the avg age of Bill Oreilley's viewers.
     
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    Yeah, those dems are awful. Hell I remember not too long ago when the dems were trying to make you believe that the republicons were going to pull the plug on grandma. And let us not forget how they were trying to accuse the republicons of starting "death panels". Whoa man, those dems ought to be ashamed of themselves...wait, What?!?
     
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