Democrats try to stack town hall, prevent dissenters from attending

[Xenophon]

No, Xeno. This is what I want you to prove:

Democrats try to stack town hall, prevent dissenters from attending

It was in the article and on the video.

I can't make you see things you don't wish to see.

 

[Ravi]

Here, Xeno, from the Tampa Tribune.

Castor tried to speak for nearly 15 minutes but the crowd drowned her out, chanting, "You work for us,'' "Tyranny, tyranny,'' and "Read the bill." She ultimately left the meeting early, further angering some attendees.

Protests, passions roiling town hall meeting on health care

If dissenters were prevented from attending, how exactly was the above possible?

 

[Old Rocks]

First off, they are NOT town hall meetings... they are just the government's version of an Amway get together. THAT'S IT.

SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL

Really?

 

[Xenophon]

They provided it themselves, the town halls were organized by democrats.

You just ask for proof of what was patently obvious.

I see. A Democratic Representative has a town hall meeting, and the fact that it is organized by Democrats is an indication of particanship? Who would you have organize it? The Republican Party? Now that you are done playing with it, put your brain back in your head and use it.

See this post?

This is the type of partisan imbecility that has ruined American politics the last century.

The termally stupid keeps trying to play idiot partsian games not understanding that I oppose the party system, even after I linked to blog comments from before this day saying so.

This is why people like 'old rocks' are such a waste, they poison politics through their inabilty to get beyound 'us/them'.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I htink the problem the politicians are having is that they can't believe the idiot masses are figuring out what it is they are trying to do... you're supposed to be too STUPID!

 

[Care4all]

When does right and wrong enter the equasion?

NEVER

Now you see why I oppose BOTH parties.

yea you fucking sound like you oppose both parties.....i havent seen you post a thread yet...going on about republicans etc...and you are the one who gave me a lecture about being objective and not generalizing....blah blah blah blah.....hyprocrite thy name is internet poster.

Quiz for Bones:

What party controls ALL THREE arms of government, and can pass anything it wants to, and the other party cannot prevent it...

There is no point in threads about the powerless.

That should be obvious, before you try and call anyone a hypocrite.

The dems control 2 parts of our 3 branch gvt.

They control the executive branch and congress...the legislative branch, but not the Judicial branch....the Supreme court is still in conservative control.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Here, Xeno, from the Tampa Tribune.

Castor tried to speak for nearly 15 minutes but the crowd drowned her out, chanting, "You work for us,'' "Tyranny, tyranny,'' and "Read the bill." She ultimately left the meeting early, further angering some attendees.

Protests, passions roiling town hall meeting on health care

If dissenters were prevented from attending, how exactly was the above possible?

Same behavior Different Party. Looks like the Dems dont like it when the Reps steal their tactics

 

[Xenophon]

Here, Xeno, from the Tampa Tribune.

Castor tried to speak for nearly 15 minutes but the crowd drowned her out, chanting, "You work for us,'' "Tyranny, tyranny,'' and "Read the bill." She ultimately left the meeting early, further angering some attendees.

Protests, passions roiling town hall meeting on health care

If dissenters were prevented from attending, how exactly was the above possible?

Could it be the thread title was tied only to the opening post?

Hmm?

I like you a lot ravi, but you are wasting your time trying to play a semantics game with me, read my comments on protesting to power.

 

[editec]

Health Care Forum

Getting worse for Democrats, they are trying to bully protests, not good, and stack townhalls with 'supporters.'

Protests, passions roiling town hall meeting on health care

The tighter the dems hold on, the more their grip will slip, protests are the purest form of America, stop trying to shut them down.

How is the DEMS trying to pack the house with their supporters any more or less politic than the ANTI-DEMS who are doing the same thing?

Or do you believe that the protestors who show up to protest merely there by coincidence?

Let me tell you, it takes coordination to pack a room when a Representative speaks, normally.

I have often been in the room with Congressional Reps (when less contentious but equeally vital issues are discussed) and there is practically nobody in that room whatever.

Are these protests contrived?

Of course they are.

But that isn't a bad thing.

That is the political process in action.

Political activist organizations rally the troops they have to show up and make a big noise.

Right now, given the amount of play that the HC issue is getting, given the enormous amount of money spent to keep this issue on the minds of the people, the REPS can field a lot of volunteers.

Now the question is will the Dems be able to do the same?

I have gotten invitation after invitation to show up and show my support for the DEM plan.

I have eschewed those invitations because I am not certain I DO support that HC reform.

I have been waiting until I understand that plan to make my opinions known to my REPs.

Perhaps it's time, for me to leave the caccoon of my office and get our on the streets, again.

If I do, and a protestor shouts down my REP or Congressperson while he (or she) is attempting to answer a question I am likely to not be very sympathetic to the person seeking to shout him down.

Let the civil war begin.

I'm more than ready for it.

 

[Xenophon]

The dems control 2 parts of our 3 branch gvt.

They control the executive branch and congress...the legislative branch, but not the Judicial branch....the Supreme court is still in conservative control.

Technically, you are correct, when I said all three I should have said both houses of congress and the white house.

No party controls the courts, which btw have no authority over the other branches according to teh constitution, but that is an argument for another day.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

The dems control 2 parts of our 3 branch gvt.

They control the executive branch and congress...the legislative branch, but not the Judicial branch....the Supreme court is still in conservative control.

Technically, you are correct, when I said all three I should have said both houses of congress and the white house.

No party controls the courts, which btw have no authority over the other branches according to teh constitution, but that is an argument for another day.

The court will be in liberal hands when obama appoints his next justice if sotomayor is as I suspect she may be.

But until then it is 5 to 3 conservative (reserving judgment on Sotomayor till she hears some cases)

 

[ba1614]

Deranged Nancy Pelosi claiming protestors are 'astroturf' (Dem speak for fake protestors) and that they carry 'swastikas...'

Does this sound like a responsible government offical?

RealClearPolitics - Video - Pelosi: Town Hall Protesters Are "Carrying Swastikas"

How can this stupid bitch get away with saying stuff like that? I just can't believe the "leader" of the house can say such shit, to the press no less!!
It's a sad state of affairs when garbage like this, by people in these positions, goes unchecked. I don't give a fuck what party you belong to, it's just wrong!

If there were people there with swastikas it would be all over the msm, and on 80% of the papers front page in the land!
I'll guarantee there's a couple in the crowd now though.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Deranged Nancy Pelosi claiming protestors are 'astroturf' (Dem speak for fake protestors) and that they carry 'swastikas...'

Does this sound like a responsible government offical?

RealClearPolitics - Video - Pelosi: Town Hall Protesters Are "Carrying Swastikas"

How can this stupid bitch get away with saying stuff like that? I just can't believe the "leader" of the house can say such shit, to the press no less!!
It's a sad state of affairs when garbage like this, by people in these positions, goes unchecked. I don't give a fuck what party you belong to, it's just wrong!

If there were people there with swastikas it would be all over the msm, and on 80% of the papers front page in the land!
I'll guarantee there's a couple in the crowd now though.

Thats what happens when the Media gets involved in politics instead of staying objective.

But like I said the only thing about Pelosi that relates to astroturf is her face.

 

[Xenophon]

Deranged Nancy Pelosi claiming protestors are 'astroturf' (Dem speak for fake protestors) and that they carry 'swastikas...'

Does this sound like a responsible government offical?

RealClearPolitics - Video - Pelosi: Town Hall Protesters Are "Carrying Swastikas"

How can this stupid bitch get away with saying stuff like that? I just can't believe the "leader" of the house can say such shit, to the press no less!!
It's a sad state of affairs when garbage like this, by people in these positions, goes unchecked. I don't give a fuck what party you belong to, it's just wrong!

If there were people there with swastikas it would be all over the msm, and on 80% of the papers front page in the land!
I'll guarantee there's a couple in the crowd now though.

I saw a picture of one meeting, a protestor had a swazskia sign, with a red circle and line thorugh, saying NO nazi tactics, not that they are pro nazis.

Nancy is inferring the opposite, totally disingenious.

 

[jillian]

What you should be angry at is disingenious attempts to shut down opposition by demonizing, belittling and other unfair practices.

What I find disgusting... is the effort to disrupt and destroy the ability to accomplish anything.

And if calling it what it is is "demonizing and belittling"... too bad. Maybe they should comport themselves in a more civilized manner.

That is what the dems are doing right now.

I know... everyone would like it if no one responded to the loons.

Every linked item showed examples of this behavior, the party in power attempting to ignore, belittle and demonize opposition.

You read the posts on this board? Dems aren't NEARLY good enough at demonizing the opposition. They have huge amounts to learn from the right in that regard.

You as outraged when the call Obama a socialist to Demonize the opposition?

 

[Xenophon]

What you should be angry at is disingenious attempts to shut down opposition by demonizing, belittling and other unfair practices.

What I find disgusting... is the effort to disrupt and destroy the ability to accomplish anything.

And if calling it what it is is "demonizing and belittling"... too bad. Maybe they should comport themselves in a more civilized manner.

That is what the dems are doing right now.

I know... everyone would like it if no one responded to the loons.

Every linked item showed examples of this behavior, the party in power attempting to ignore, belittle and demonize opposition.

You read the posts on this board? Dems aren't NEARLY good enough at demonizing the opposition. They have huge amounts to learn from the right in that regard.

You as outraged when the call Obama a socialist to Demonize the opposition?

Jill, read the post I linked to, about who i am.

Your questions are all answered within the non alligned poster society.

 

[Annie]

Yet Democrat representatives are beginning to walk it back:

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Blanche Lincoln to health-care protesters: Hey, sorry for calling you “un-American”

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Blanche Lincoln to health-care protesters: Hey, sorry for calling you “un-American”
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Translation: “Sorry for actually saying out loud what my party’s been implying all week.”

“It’s so sad, because it’s diminishing to the process, it’s diminishing to our outcome,” Lincoln said in a conference call with reporters. “I think it’s sad that they choose to do that. I think it’s un-American and disrespectful.”

A few hours later, Lincoln issued the following statement: “Although I do believe that some of these protesters are disrespectful of other citizens in the audience who truly want to ask questions about health care, I shouldn’t have used the term ‘un-American.’ I support the right of every Arkansan to speak out and have their voices heard. I would just ask that we all continue to work in a constructive way to rebuild our economy and fine-tune out health care system so it works for all of us.”…

Also in the audience Wednesday was Bob Porto, an organizer with the Pulaski County Tea Party. Porto said local Tea Party leaders discouraged members from attending because they believed Arkansas Children’s Hospital was not the proper venue…

“I think we are seeing people who feel that their expression, or their ability to communicate, isn’t being heard, so they’re doing what they can to be heard,” he said.
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Cited in this same piece as smoking-gun evidence of a top-down Republican astroturf campaign: The memo debunked by Mary Katharine Ham 27 hours ago. Sigh. Exit question: Is Lincoln’s retreat a sign that the backlash to the left’s demagoguery is now in full swing? Foolproof though it may seem, calling your constituents Nazis actually isn’t a surefire path to reelection. Claire McCaskill politely disagreed with the Democratic brain trust about astroturfing earlier on Twitter and Ben Cardin took a politic line on the subject when pressed this afternoon by Fox News. I’d be surprised if Reid and Pelosi are still tossing grenades tomorrow.

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[manifold]

Haven't read through the thread, just the op so I apolgize in advance if this has already been covered.

I don't see anything in the links provided to support the claim that anyone is trying to prevent anyone from attending. Just seems to me that there is a lot of interest, on both sides, leading to undercapacity issues. Not sure why you [Xeno] would imply that this is a Democrat conspiracy.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

 

[xsited1]

Yet Democrat representatives are beginning to walk it back:

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Blanche Lincoln to health-care protesters: Hey, sorry for calling you “un-American”

...

Blanche Lincoln is a piece of work. She'll continue to get reelected just like Pelosi because of the constituents she represents, but she is most certainly a disgrace to the country.