Democrats still ignoring people who could have helped them defeat Trump, Ohio party leaders say

[Ray From Cleveland]

Not rich. Middle class is quite enough. The poor of all colors voted Democratic.

Yes they do because the poor are usually too uneducated to understand politics, so they vote Democrat. But you said "richer white suburbanites" and when I pointed out your error, you move the goalposts. How liberal of you.

You just proudly announced xenophobia put Trump in office. Kind of makes the point about racism. I mean, how does bilingualism hurt anyone economically?

Because businesses have to hire bilingual employees, they have to make out bilingual signs, the government has to make out bilingual voting ballots and so on.........

And how does that hurt anyone economically? Thanks for reinforcing my point about how bigotry, racism and xenophobia were the driving factors, not the "economic uncertainty" bullshit.

It's bigotry, racism and xenophobia to want your daughter in school safe and secure from weirdo men in their locker rooms? Then I think most normal people are racists, bigots and xenophobes. It has to hurt economically to be immoral or wrong???

Yes, your fake news from your Russian pals, along with some serious misogyny. Don't leave that out. They're the final coffin nails for "economic uncertainty".

So, why all the crying? You appealed to the worst nature of humanity, and it worked! Why so glum? You should be happy about doing Satan's work successfully. He always rewards people for that.

Satin's work is taking God out of society and favor killing babies over criminals in prison. Satin's work is favoring terrorists over American solders. Satin's work is favoring criminals over police. Satin's work is disarming the innocent so evil has an advantage. Any questions?

 

[mamooth]

Yes they do because the poor are usually too uneducated to understand politics, so they vote Democrat. But you said "richer white suburbanites" and when I pointed out your error, you move the goalposts. How liberal of you.

You're just making up shit now. I won't say "how conservative of you", because it's not conservatives, it's just you.

Because businesses have to hire bilingual employees, they have to make out bilingual signs, the government has to make out bilingual voting ballots and so on......

That's pathetic. Try to come up with a better excuse for anti-latino xenophobia.

It's bigotry, racism and xenophobia to want your daughter in school safe and secure from weirdo men in their locker rooms?

Lying about a non-existent threat like you do, yep, it certainly is. And since you put the most disgusting perv in the nation in the president's office, we all know you see perversion as a resume builder.

Satin's work is taking God out of society and favor killing babies over criminals in prison.

Satan's work is telling lies, like you keep doing. God wouldn't tell you to lie like you do. Only Satan does that, and you're his happy minion.

Satin's work is favoring terrorists over American solders. Satin's work is favoring criminals over police. Satin's work is disarming the innocent so evil has an advantage. Any questions?

No. I mean, since you're the master of all of the above, we know you do Satan's work proudly. You probably even think you've made a special deal with him, and that you'll get a luxury suite instead of burning with the rest.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That's pathetic. Try to come up with a better excuse for anti-latino xenophobia.

It's not anti anything. Our country didn't have to become bilingual when Europeans came here. We didn't have to become bilingual when Asians came here. We didn't have to become bilingual when Arabs came here. Why do we have to now?

Lying about a non-existent threat like you do, yep, it certainly is. And since you put the most disgusting perv in the nation in the president's office, we all know you see perversion as a resume builder.

And I bet you voted for Bill Clinton twice, imagine that!

Yeah, it's nonexistent now because Trump pulled DumBama's order back. Left to perv Democrats, all kinds of weirdos would be in our daughters locker rooms, showers and restrooms today. Thank GOD Hillary is not in the White House.

Satan's work is telling lies, like you keep doing. God wouldn't tell you to lie like you do. Only Satan does that, and you're his happy minion.

Really? I don't lie, you only read things you don't like and call them a lie. Lying is not a violation of the Ten Commandments (look it up sometime) murder is.

No. I mean, since you're the master of all of the above, we know you do Satan's work proudly. You probably even think you've made a special deal with him, and that you'll get a luxury suite instead of burning with the rest.

Yes, I'm sure I'll burn wanting to keep God's name in our society, doing away with evil, and actually believing that God didn't make mistakes with gender that liberals think they can correct for him. Tell St. Peter to let you in since you believe in keeping God out our schools and public buildings. See ya then.......

 

[francoHFW]

Not rich. Middle class is quite enough. The poor of all colors voted Democratic.

Yes they do because the poor are usually too uneducated to understand politics, so they vote Democrat. But you said "richer white suburbanites" and when I pointed out your error, you move the goalposts. How liberal of you.

You just proudly announced xenophobia put Trump in office. Kind of makes the point about racism. I mean, how does bilingualism hurt anyone economically?

Because businesses have to hire bilingual employees, they have to make out bilingual signs, the government has to make out bilingual voting ballots and so on.........

And how does that hurt anyone economically? Thanks for reinforcing my point about how bigotry, racism and xenophobia were the driving factors, not the "economic uncertainty" bullshit.

It's bigotry, racism and xenophobia to want your daughter in school safe and secure from weirdo men in their locker rooms? Then I think most normal people are racists, bigots and xenophobes. It has to hurt economically to be immoral or wrong???

Yes, your fake news from your Russian pals, along with some serious misogyny. Don't leave that out. They're the final coffin nails for "economic uncertainty".

So, why all the crying? You appealed to the worst nature of humanity, and it worked! Why so glum? You should be happy about doing Satan's work successfully. He always rewards people for that.

Satin's work is taking God out of society and favor killing babies over criminals in prison. Satin's work is favoring terrorists over American solders. Satin's work is favoring criminals over police. Satin's work is disarming the innocent so evil has an advantage. Any questions?

BS. Whites vote for both sides equally, just as they get welfare equally from the 2 parties. The ones who vote GOP believe a giant pile of crap GOP propaganda, as do you, dupe.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Not rich. Middle class is quite enough. The poor of all colors voted Democratic.

Yes they do because the poor are usually too uneducated to understand politics, so they vote Democrat. But you said "richer white suburbanites" and when I pointed out your error, you move the goalposts. How liberal of you.

You just proudly announced xenophobia put Trump in office. Kind of makes the point about racism. I mean, how does bilingualism hurt anyone economically?

Because businesses have to hire bilingual employees, they have to make out bilingual signs, the government has to make out bilingual voting ballots and so on.........

And how does that hurt anyone economically? Thanks for reinforcing my point about how bigotry, racism and xenophobia were the driving factors, not the "economic uncertainty" bullshit.

It's bigotry, racism and xenophobia to want your daughter in school safe and secure from weirdo men in their locker rooms? Then I think most normal people are racists, bigots and xenophobes. It has to hurt economically to be immoral or wrong???

Yes, your fake news from your Russian pals, along with some serious misogyny. Don't leave that out. They're the final coffin nails for "economic uncertainty".

So, why all the crying? You appealed to the worst nature of humanity, and it worked! Why so glum? You should be happy about doing Satan's work successfully. He always rewards people for that.

Satin's work is taking God out of society and favor killing babies over criminals in prison. Satin's work is favoring terrorists over American solders. Satin's work is favoring criminals over police. Satin's work is disarming the innocent so evil has an advantage. Any questions?

BS. Whites vote for both sides equally, just as they get welfare equally from the 2 parties. The ones who vote GOP believe a giant pile of crap GOP propaganda, as do you, dupe.

Sorry welfare queen, but no, both sides do not promote government dependency---only the Democrats do.

Commie Care--20 million more government dependents.
Food stamp increase under DumBama, another 20 million more government dependents.

40 million more NEW government dependents under Democrat leadership in two programs alone, and there is more if you consider disability and unemployment.

 

[francoHFW]

Not rich. Middle class is quite enough. The poor of all colors voted Democratic.

Yes they do because the poor are usually too uneducated to understand politics, so they vote Democrat. But you said "richer white suburbanites" and when I pointed out your error, you move the goalposts. How liberal of you.

You just proudly announced xenophobia put Trump in office. Kind of makes the point about racism. I mean, how does bilingualism hurt anyone economically?

Because businesses have to hire bilingual employees, they have to make out bilingual signs, the government has to make out bilingual voting ballots and so on.........

And how does that hurt anyone economically? Thanks for reinforcing my point about how bigotry, racism and xenophobia were the driving factors, not the "economic uncertainty" bullshit.

It's bigotry, racism and xenophobia to want your daughter in school safe and secure from weirdo men in their locker rooms? Then I think most normal people are racists, bigots and xenophobes. It has to hurt economically to be immoral or wrong???

Yes, your fake news from your Russian pals, along with some serious misogyny. Don't leave that out. They're the final coffin nails for "economic uncertainty".

So, why all the crying? You appealed to the worst nature of humanity, and it worked! Why so glum? You should be happy about doing Satan's work successfully. He always rewards people for that.

Satin's work is taking God out of society and favor killing babies over criminals in prison. Satin's work is favoring terrorists over American solders. Satin's work is favoring criminals over police. Satin's work is disarming the innocent so evil has an advantage. Any questions?

BS. Whites vote for both sides equally, just as they get welfare equally from the 2 parties. The ones who vote GOP believe a giant pile of crap GOP propaganda, as do you, dupe.

Sorry welfare queen, but no, both sides do not promote government dependency---only the Democrats do.

Commie Care--20 million more government dependents.
Food stamp increase under DumBama, another 20 million more government dependents.

40 million more NEW government dependents under Democrat leadership in two programs alone, and there is more if you consider disability and unemployment.

Just as many white GOPers on welfare as Dem whites. Blacks scew it. It was the Booosh depression and crap GOP jobs that got more eligible for food stamps- no changes were made in eligibility. Yes, another 20 million have Medicaid- that's just smart. Preventive care instead of free stupid ER care, and people don't have to go on welfare to get it.

And hater dupe, I realize you hate me because you think because I argue with facts and intelligence instead of bs GOP propaganda, I must be one of your welfare rats you hate. I'm still not, STUPID. Enjoy hell at the rate you're going.

How bout taxing the ridiculously bloated rich their fair share so we can have good infrastructure and cheap college and training like the good old days before Raygun and the New BS GOP?

 

[francoHFW]

That's pathetic. Try to come up with a better excuse for anti-latino xenophobia.

It's not anti anything. Our country didn't have to become bilingual when Europeans came here. We didn't have to become bilingual when Asians came here. We didn't have to become bilingual when Arabs came here. Why do we have to now?

Lying about a non-existent threat like you do, yep, it certainly is. And since you put the most disgusting perv in the nation in the president's office, we all know you see perversion as a resume builder.

And I bet you voted for Bill Clinton twice, imagine that!

Yeah, it's nonexistent now because Trump pulled DumBama's order back. Left to perv Democrats, all kinds of weirdos would be in our daughters locker rooms, showers and restrooms today. Thank GOD Hillary is not in the White House.

Satan's work is telling lies, like you keep doing. God wouldn't tell you to lie like you do. Only Satan does that, and you're his happy minion.

Really? I don't lie, you only read things you don't like and call them a lie. Lying is not a violation of the Ten Commandments (look it up sometime) murder is.

No. I mean, since you're the master of all of the above, we know you do Satan's work proudly. You probably even think you've made a special deal with him, and that you'll get a luxury suite instead of burning with the rest.

Yes, I'm sure I'll burn wanting to keep God's name in our society, doing away with evil, and actually believing that God didn't make mistakes with gender that liberals think they can correct for him. Tell St. Peter to let you in since you believe in keeping God out our schools and public buildings. See ya then.......

You see god recently or what? I'm sure He can see the justice of separating church and state, but not of hating and blaming the poor...

 

[kiwiman127]

Totally agree with OP.
The Dem hierarchy are clueless. They continue to cater the the West Coast/ Northeast elites. Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are the symbol of who is perceived as the Demsbread and butter. The Democratic Party is fucked.
There a huge vacuum in the center/moderate demographic and considering the right has veered further to the right, why cater to the left fringe? The center is prime and is ignored.
But appears the Democratic leadership is content to live in their fantasy world of hyper- progressives and to flounder into the abyss .

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The working class voted Democrat. It was richer white suburbinites who voted for Trump in droves.

Evidence?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Not rich. Middle class is quite enough. The poor of all colors voted Democratic.

Trump did better with minorities than McCain and Romney.

 

[francoHFW]

Totally agree with OP.
The Dem hierarchy are clueless. They continue to cater the the West Coast/ Northeast elites. Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are the symbol of who is perceived as the Demsbread and butter. The Democratic Party is fucked.
There a huge vacuum in the center/moderate demographic and considering the right has veered further to the right, why cater to the left fringe? The center is prime and is ignored.
But appears the Democratic leadership is content to live in their fantasy world of hyper- progressives and to flounder into the abyss .

Unfortunately, between the coasts there's a lot of brainwashed functional idiots these days...that don't get the facts.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Not rich. Middle class is quite enough. The poor of all colors voted Democratic.

Yes they do because the poor are usually too uneducated to understand politics, so they vote Democrat. But you said "richer white suburbanites" and when I pointed out your error, you move the goalposts. How liberal of you.

You just proudly announced xenophobia put Trump in office. Kind of makes the point about racism. I mean, how does bilingualism hurt anyone economically?

Because businesses have to hire bilingual employees, they have to make out bilingual signs, the government has to make out bilingual voting ballots and so on.........

And how does that hurt anyone economically? Thanks for reinforcing my point about how bigotry, racism and xenophobia were the driving factors, not the "economic uncertainty" bullshit.

It's bigotry, racism and xenophobia to want your daughter in school safe and secure from weirdo men in their locker rooms? Then I think most normal people are racists, bigots and xenophobes. It has to hurt economically to be immoral or wrong???

Yes, your fake news from your Russian pals, along with some serious misogyny. Don't leave that out. They're the final coffin nails for "economic uncertainty".

So, why all the crying? You appealed to the worst nature of humanity, and it worked! Why so glum? You should be happy about doing Satan's work successfully. He always rewards people for that.

Satin's work is taking God out of society and favor killing babies over criminals in prison. Satin's work is favoring terrorists over American solders. Satin's work is favoring criminals over police. Satin's work is disarming the innocent so evil has an advantage. Any questions?

BS. Whites vote for both sides equally, just as they get welfare equally from the 2 parties. The ones who vote GOP believe a giant pile of crap GOP propaganda, as do you, dupe.

Sorry welfare queen, but no, both sides do not promote government dependency---only the Democrats do.

Commie Care--20 million more government dependents.
Food stamp increase under DumBama, another 20 million more government dependents.

40 million more NEW government dependents under Democrat leadership in two programs alone, and there is more if you consider disability and unemployment.

Just as many white GOPers on welfare as Dem whites. Blacks scew it. It was the Booosh depression and crap GOP jobs that got more eligible for food stamps- no changes were made in eligibility. Yes, another 20 million have Medicaid- that's just smart. Preventive care instead of free stupid ER care, and people don't have to go on welfare to get it.

And hater dupe, I realize you hate me because you think because I argue with facts and intelligence instead of bs GOP propaganda, I must be one of your welfare rats you hate. I'm still not, STUPID. Enjoy hell at the rate you're going.

How bout taxing the ridiculously bloated rich their fair share so we can have good infrastructure and cheap college and training like the good old days before Raygun and the New BS GOP?

How about you leftist leeches pay for that stuff yourself? Why do you leftists always want other people's money to do things in life? Oh, that's right, you've been trained that way.

Yes, DumBama expanded food stamps. Look up his so-called Stimulus Bill, also known as the Pork Bill.

 

[Mac1958]

The working class voted Democrat. It was richer white suburbinites who voted for Trump in droves. "Economic uncertainty?". Horseshit. It was the racism, stupid. But we're not allowed to talk about that, as conservative PC speech codes forbid it.

You are so right! Tell all your friends.

"...racism, stupid". Race card and personal insult, right in a row.

In two consecutive words, the whole point is laid out, right there. Perfectly.

And no, they don't see it.
.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If the Democrats are ignoring those people,

why are the special congressional elections in Kansas and Georgia looking like they'll be much closer than they should be, to the advantage of the Democrats?

 

[JoeB131]

The thing is, the White Working Class only votes Democratic when Republicans fuck things up so badly they have no other choice. See 1932, 1976, 1992, 2008.

When things are going reasonably well, these folks live in mortal fear that the Darkies might get the same rights they have, and people like Trump are able to play on their racial, sexual and religious fears.

And then they wonder after a recessions comes on a Republican watch, why they have less than when the recession started.

Every. Fucking. Time.

 

[JoeB131]

How about you leftist leeches pay for that stuff yourself? Why do you leftists always want other people's money to do things in life? Oh, that's right, you've been trained that way.

Yes, DumBama expanded food stamps. Look up his so-called Stimulus Bill, also known as the Pork Bill.

You mean the Stimulus bill that saved the construction industry and the Auto industry?

Food Stamps expanded because the One Percenters took advantage of the recession to pay people less. Most people on food stamps have jobs.

 

[JoeB131]

Because businesses have to hire bilingual employees, they have to make out bilingual signs, the government has to make out bilingual voting ballots and so on.........

And so what? How does this hurt the business? They had to pay an extra .02 for extra ink?

It's bigotry, racism and xenophobia to want your daughter in school safe and secure from weirdo men in their locker rooms? Then I think most normal people are racists, bigots and xenophobes. It has to hurt economically to be immoral or wrong???

Again, where do you think these trannies were going to the bathroom before?

Yes, I'm sure I'll burn wanting to keep God's name in our society, doing away with evil, and actually believing that God didn't make mistakes with gender that liberals think they can correct for him. Tell St. Peter to let you in since you believe in keeping God out our schools and public buildings. See ya then.......

Dude, there is no God. Thankfully. Keep your bronze age superstitions to yourself.

 

[gipper]

Because businesses have to hire bilingual employees, they have to make out bilingual signs, the government has to make out bilingual voting ballots and so on.........

And so what? How does this hurt the business? They had to pay an extra .02 for extra ink?

It's bigotry, racism and xenophobia to want your daughter in school safe and secure from weirdo men in their locker rooms? Then I think most normal people are racists, bigots and xenophobes. It has to hurt economically to be immoral or wrong???

Again, where do you think these trannies were going to the bathroom before?

Yes, I'm sure I'll burn wanting to keep God's name in our society, doing away with evil, and actually believing that God didn't make mistakes with gender that liberals think they can correct for him. Tell St. Peter to let you in since you believe in keeping God out our schools and public buildings. See ya then.......

Dude, there is no God. Thankfully. Keep your bronze age superstitions to yourself.

How do you know there is no God?

 

[ptbw forever]

Not rich. Middle class is quite enough. The poor of all colors voted Democratic.

Trump did better with minorities than McCain and Romney.

And Bush Jr.

 

[martybegan]

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio —

The dinner was supposed to be a Democratic strategy session for an upcoming county election. But the mood grew darker as conversation turned toward the future of their party.

One by one, members of the Mahoning County Democratic Party poured out their frustrations: Just months after the presidential election, they felt folks like them were being forgotten - again. The party's comeback strategy was being steered by protesters, consultants and elitists from New York and California who have no idea what voters in middle America care about.

But worst of all, they said, the party hadn't learned from what they saw as the biggest message from November's election: Democrats have fallen completely out of touch with America's blue-collar voters.

"It doesn't matter how much we scream and holler about jobs and the economy at the local level. Our national leaders still don't get it," said David Betras, the county's party chair. "While Trump is talking about trade and jobs, they're still obsessing about which bathrooms people should be allowed to go into."

Others around the restaurant table nodded.

Since the election, Democrats have been swallowed up in an unending cycle of outrage and issues that have little to do with the nation's working class, they said, such as women's marches, fighting Trump's refugee ban and advocating for transgender bathroom rights.

..."Every time Trump so much as sneezes, we as a party are setting our hair on fire and running around like it's the end of the world," Betras said as the dinner wound down. "Most people around here don't care. They are living paycheck to paycheck, just trying to hold on. After everything that's happened, if we as a party still aren't speaking to them, then we are never getting them back."
Democrats still ignoring people who could have helped them defeat Trump...

You have to be flat out living in denial not to see this.

Well, that's what it is: Denial. Look at the comments from them on this board.

They refuse to believe their own behaviors and bigotries had anything to do with their loss, and so those behaviors haven't changed even a bit.
.

Not only that, they figure the best way back to power is to double down on their attacks on anything that doesn't fit their worldview.

So more balkanization, more races to the top of the victim pole, and more concentrating on asinine social issues instead of the harder things that have to be done.