Cons say the government doesn't create jobs....

Only a liberal would think expansion of government is a good thing.

Why not?

If government can do some things more efficiently than individuals...why shouldn't they?

What exactly does the government do more efficiently?
They couldnt even protect gov workers private info.

Do you build and maintain your own roads?
Do you hire your own police protection?
Do you verify the safety of your drinking water, food and drugs?
Hire your own teachers?
Do you maintain your own legal system?

Many, many things are done better collectively than individually

A private company could do it for half the price.

Bull shit. Another BIG LIE by another partisan hack. Libertarians are no different than utopian socialists. That is fixated on an idea, a fantasy, devoid of any critical thought or pragmatism.

A lot of typing to say nothing.
Are you saying a private company would hand out bonuses even when the employees fail miserably?
Look at the IRS for a perfect example of this.
A private company needs to make a profit,the government doesnt give a shit if they exceed their budget.
 
You make that out to be a good thing.

Why wouldn't it be?

No society can function without a government

Only a liberal would think expansion of government is a good thing.

Why not?

If government can do some things more efficiently than individuals...why shouldn't they?

What exactly does the government do more efficiently?
They couldnt even protect gov workers private info.

Do you build and maintain your own roads?
Do you hire your own police protection?
Do you verify the safety of your drinking water, food and drugs?
Hire your own teachers?
Do you maintain your own legal system?

Many, many things are done better collectively than individually

And if you think the gov builds all roads you're an idiot.
These guys build a shitload of roads in Texas and they usually finish early and if not below budget at least on budget.
Williams Brothers Construction Company Inc.
 
...Cons say Obama doesn't deserve credit for cutting unemployment in have, because the government can't create jobs.

But now Jeb Bush is promising to create 19 million jobs. And Trump is promising to create the most jobs of any previous POTUS.

Hypocrisy IS the GOP.

You are as usual, confused.

The government does NOT create jobs and both Bush and Trump would tell you that. If you had a functioning brain cell to your name, you'd know what they meant but you are an idiot so it has to be explained to you.

What they mean is to create an environment where private businesses can create jobs. Like reducing taxes, giving tax incentives, cutting regulations, and basically getting the goverent out if the way.

Another ignorant left wing nut thread killed. My job is done here.

Who created the millions of jobs in the defense department? Including the men and women in uniform?

Who created public school teaching and non-teaching jobs?

Who created the jobs in law enforcement?

Who created the jobs for every business that has business with the government?


those jobs are the functions of government. The issue is creating new private sector jobs and getting people off of unemployment.

BTW, all those government jobs you listed have to be paid for with tax revenues. Now, who pays taxes, dingleberry?
 
Why wouldn't it be?

No society can function without a government

Only a liberal would think expansion of government is a good thing.

Why not?

If government can do some things more efficiently than individuals...why shouldn't they?

What exactly does the government do more efficiently?
They couldnt even protect gov workers private info.

Do you build and maintain your own roads?
Do you hire your own police protection?
Do you verify the safety of your drinking water, food and drugs?
Hire your own teachers?
Do you maintain your own legal system?

Many, many things are done better collectively than individually

And if you think the gov builds all roads you're an idiot.
These guys build a shitload of roads in Texas and they usually finish early and if not below budget at least on budget.
Williams Brothers Construction Company Inc.

Interesting...does Williams Brothers buy the land and build the roads with their own money or public funds? Do they maintain and police the roads?
 
Here's the problem... The government CAN create jobs.... tons of them! Each job they create is paid for by the taxpayer and the rate of pay is determined by tenure and longevity rather than free market capitalist economics. There is essentially no relationship between pay and performance or production. Wages are determined by formulas and tables unrelated to the free market.

In a free market society, these government jobs often are in direct competition with the private sector, which means they force private businesses to offer higher pay to compete. This means the cost of living goes up the more government jobs we create.

The real pitfall is, we can never create enough government jobs to bail out a struggling economy. In fact, more government jobs being funded by the taxpayer has the opposite effect. To improve the economy, the overwhelming majority of new jobs created should come from private sector capitalists. Liberals hear those three words and go into epileptic seizures because they are anti-capitalist Socialists.
 
Here's the problem... The government CAN create jobs.... tons of them! Each job they create is paid for by the taxpayer and the rate of pay is determined by tenure and longevity rather than free market capitalist economics. There is essentially no relationship between pay and performance or production. Wages are determined by formulas and tables unrelated to the free market.

In a free market society, these government jobs often are in direct competition with the private sector, which means they force private businesses to offer higher pay to compete. This means the cost of living goes up the more government jobs we create.

The real pitfall is, we can never create enough government jobs to bail out a struggling economy. In fact, more government jobs being funded by the taxpayer has the opposite effect. To improve the economy, the overwhelming majority of new jobs created should come from private sector capitalists. Liberals hear those three words and go into epileptic seizures because they are anti-capitalist Socialists.


well said and 100% accurate. :clap2:
 
Here's the problem... The government CAN create jobs.... tons of them! Each job they create is paid for by the taxpayer and the rate of pay is determined by tenure and longevity rather than free market capitalist economics. There is essentially no relationship between pay and performance or production. Wages are determined by formulas and tables unrelated to the free market.

In a free market society, these government jobs often are in direct competition with the private sector, which means they force private businesses to offer higher pay to compete. This means the cost of living goes up the more government jobs we create.

The real pitfall is, we can never create enough government jobs to bail out a struggling economy. In fact, more government jobs being funded by the taxpayer has the opposite effect. To improve the economy, the overwhelming majority of new jobs created should come from private sector capitalists. Liberals hear those three words and go into epileptic seizures because they are anti-capitalist Socialists.

Government pay is determined by free market and comparisons to what equivalent private sector jobs are paying

Government jobs can be created to bail out a struggling economy. Infrastructure can be built, deferred maintenance can be performed, police, fire and teachers can be hired

If the economy is really struggling, we can always start a war
 
And if you think the gov builds all roads you're an idiot.

Exactly! I get so fed up with the stupid liberal meme about the fucking roads and bridges! Anywhere a road or bridge is needed, the town, county or state vote to use state funds to build it. That's what the state and local governments do, not the federal government. Reason being, it's not fair for me (in Alabama) to pay for a bridge or road in Michigan or Alaska. I'm not going to receive any benefit from that and I shouldn't be obligated to pay for it. If the people of Michigan or Alaska want a road or bridge, let them pay for one. If we need one here, we'll do the same.
 
And if you think the gov builds all roads you're an idiot.

Exactly! I get so fed up with the stupid liberal meme about the fucking roads and bridges! Anywhere a road or bridge is needed, the town, county or state vote to use state funds to build it. That's what the state and local governments do, not the federal government. Reason being, it's not fair for me (in Alabama) to pay for a bridge or road in Michigan or Alaska. I'm not going to receive any benefit from that and I shouldn't be obligated to pay for it. If the people of Michigan or Alaska want a road or bridge, let them pay for one. If we need one here, we'll do the same.

Do you realize that local, state and federal are all GOVERNMENT?
 
Government pay is determined by free market and comparisons to what equivalent private sector jobs are paying

Government jobs can be created to bail out a struggling economy. Infrastructure can be built, deferred maintenance can be performed, police, fire and teachers can be hired

If the economy is really struggling, we can always start a war

Nope... Government pay is certainly NOT determined by free market comparisons or federal employees would make the same as their private sector counterparts and they don't. Unproductive or inefficient employees would be dismissed instead of promoted and given raises based on tenure.

All you are doing with the idea of government bailing out the economy is creating more tax burden for people who work in the private sector and causing prices to go up. There is not one damn thing in the Constitution about the federal government building infrastructure, hiring policemen or firemen, or even teachers. Those are all STATE responsibilities delegated to the states and their people to decide.
 
The Government creates millions of jobs

2 million federal employees, state and local employees, policemen, firemen, teachers....

The entire defense industry is created by the governement

Those aren't jobs. They're just titles enabling the people who hold them to collect a check from the government. Jobs produce something people are willing to pay for voluntarily.
 
...Cons say Obama doesn't deserve credit for cutting unemployment in have, because the government can't create jobs.

But now Jeb Bush is promising to create 19 million jobs. And Trump is promising to create the most jobs of any previous POTUS.

Hypocrisy IS the GOP.

You are as usual, confused.

The government does NOT create jobs and both Bush and Trump would tell you that. If you had a functioning brain cell to your name, you'd know what they meant but you are an idiot so it has to be explained to you.

What they mean is to create an environment where private businesses can create jobs. Like reducing taxes, giving tax incentives, cutting regulations, and basically getting the goverent out if the way.

Another ignorant left wing nut thread killed. My job is done here.

Who created the millions of jobs in the defense department? Including the men and women in uniform?

Who created public school teaching and non-teaching jobs?

Who created the jobs in law enforcement?

Who created the jobs for every business that has business with the government?

They bought them with taxpayer dollars. Those kind of jobs don't help the economy nut ball.
 
Government pay is determined by free market and comparisons to what equivalent private sector jobs are paying

Government jobs can be created to bail out a struggling economy. Infrastructure can be built, deferred maintenance can be performed, police, fire and teachers can be hired

If the economy is really struggling, we can always start a war

Nope... Government pay is certainly NOT determined by free market comparisons or federal employees would make the same as their private sector counterparts and they don't. Unproductive or inefficient employees would be dismissed instead of promoted and given raises based on tenure.

All you are doing with the idea of government bailing out the economy is creating more tax burden for people who work in the private sector and causing prices to go up. There is not one damn thing in the Constitution about the federal government building infrastructure, hiring policemen or firemen, or even teachers. Those are all STATE responsibilities delegated to the states and their people to decide.

Federal employees do not make the same as their private sector contemporaries...as a rule, the make less

Unproductive employees are not promoted or given raises. Each employee is given an annual appraisal and must meet an acceptable level of performance

Building roads is in the constitution. Once again you obsess over the level of government...it is all still GOVERNMENT

The title of the thread is the GOVERNMENT does not create jobs
 
...Cons say Obama doesn't deserve credit for cutting unemployment in have, because the government can't create jobs.

But now Jeb Bush is promising to create 19 million jobs. And Trump is promising to create the most jobs of any previous POTUS.

Hypocrisy IS the GOP.

You are as usual, confused.

The government does NOT create jobs and both Bush and Trump would tell you that. If you had a functioning brain cell to your name, you'd know what they meant but you are an idiot so it has to be explained to you.

What they mean is to create an environment where private businesses can create jobs. Like reducing taxes, giving tax incentives, cutting regulations, and basically getting the goverent out if the way.

Another ignorant left wing nut thread killed. My job is done here.

Who created the millions of jobs in the defense department? Including the men and women in uniform?

Who created public school teaching and non-teaching jobs?

Who created the jobs in law enforcement?

Who created the jobs for every business that has business with the government?

They bought them with taxpayer dollars. Those kind of jobs don't help the economy nut ball.

The Government IS the people

Thats what taxpayers pay for
 
Only a liberal would think expansion of government is a good thing.

Why not?

If government can do some things more efficiently than individuals...why shouldn't they?

What exactly does the government do more efficiently?
They couldnt even protect gov workers private info.

Do you build and maintain your own roads?
Do you hire your own police protection?
Do you verify the safety of your drinking water, food and drugs?
Hire your own teachers?
Do you maintain your own legal system?

Many, many things are done better collectively than individually

And if you think the gov builds all roads you're an idiot.
These guys build a shitload of roads in Texas and they usually finish early and if not below budget at least on budget.
Williams Brothers Construction Company Inc.

Interesting...does Williams Brothers buy the land and build the roads with their own money or public funds? Do they maintain and police the roads?

Nope..the whole point is they can do it on budget and on time thus using our tax dollars wisely.
 
Why not?

If government can do some things more efficiently than individuals...why shouldn't they?

What exactly does the government do more efficiently?
They couldnt even protect gov workers private info.

Do you build and maintain your own roads?
Do you hire your own police protection?
Do you verify the safety of your drinking water, food and drugs?
Hire your own teachers?
Do you maintain your own legal system?

Many, many things are done better collectively than individually

And if you think the gov builds all roads you're an idiot.
These guys build a shitload of roads in Texas and they usually finish early and if not below budget at least on budget.
Williams Brothers Construction Company Inc.

Interesting...does Williams Brothers buy the land and build the roads with their own money or public funds? Do they maintain and police the roads?

Nope..the whole point is they can do it on budget and on time thus using our tax dollars wisely.

So you admit that the GOVERNMENT created all those Williams Brothers jobs
 
And if you think the gov builds all roads you're an idiot.

Exactly! I get so fed up with the stupid liberal meme about the fucking roads and bridges! Anywhere a road or bridge is needed, the town, county or state vote to use state funds to build it. That's what the state and local governments do, not the federal government. Reason being, it's not fair for me (in Alabama) to pay for a bridge or road in Michigan or Alaska. I'm not going to receive any benefit from that and I shouldn't be obligated to pay for it. If the people of Michigan or Alaska want a road or bridge, let them pay for one. If we need one here, we'll do the same.

Do you realize that local, state and federal are all GOVERNMENT?

Do you realize the Williams Brothers are a private company?
 

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