Cons say the government doesn't create jobs....

[HereWeGoAgain]

What exactly does the government do more efficiently?
They couldnt even protect gov workers private info.

Do you build and maintain your own roads?
Do you hire your own police protection?
Do you verify the safety of your drinking water, food and drugs?
Hire your own teachers?
Do you maintain your own legal system?

Many, many things are done better collectively than individually

And if you think the gov builds all roads you're an idiot.
These guys build a shitload of roads in Texas and they usually finish early and if not below budget at least on budget.
Williams Brothers Construction Company Inc.

Interesting...does Williams Brothers buy the land and build the roads with their own money or public funds? Do they maintain and police the roads?

Nope..the whole point is they can do it on budget and on time thus using our tax dollars wisely.

So you admit that the GOVERNMENT created all those Williams Brothers jobs

Through an efficient company that has an excellent track record.

 

[rightwinger]

And if you think the gov builds all roads you're an idiot.

Exactly! I get so fed up with the stupid liberal meme about the fucking roads and bridges! Anywhere a road or bridge is needed, the town, county or state vote to use state funds to build it. That's what the state and local governments do, not the federal government. Reason being, it's not fair for me (in Alabama) to pay for a bridge or road in Michigan or Alaska. I'm not going to receive any benefit from that and I shouldn't be obligated to pay for it. If the people of Michigan or Alaska want a road or bridge, let them pay for one. If we need one here, we'll do the same.

Do you realize that local, state and federal are all GOVERNMENT?

Do you realize the Williams Brothers are a private company?

A private company that gets paid by the Government
All their jobs are created by the government

 

[PredFan]

...Cons say Obama doesn't deserve credit for cutting unemployment in have, because the government can't create jobs.

But now Jeb Bush is promising to create 19 million jobs. And Trump is promising to create the most jobs of any previous POTUS.

Hypocrisy IS the GOP.

You are as usual, confused.

The government does NOT create jobs and both Bush and Trump would tell you that. If you had a functioning brain cell to your name, you'd know what they meant but you are an idiot so it has to be explained to you.

What they mean is to create an environment where private businesses can create jobs. Like reducing taxes, giving tax incentives, cutting regulations, and basically getting the goverent out if the way.

Another ignorant left wing nut thread killed. My job is done here.

Who created the millions of jobs in the defense department? Including the men and women in uniform?

Who created public school teaching and non-teaching jobs?

Who created the jobs in law enforcement?

Who created the jobs for every business that has business with the government?

They bought them with taxpayer dollars. Those kind of jobs don't help the economy nut ball.

The Government IS the people

Thats what taxpayers pay for

Irrelevant. Buying jobs is not creating jobs.

 

[rightwinger]

Do you build and maintain your own roads?
Do you hire your own police protection?
Do you verify the safety of your drinking water, food and drugs?
Hire your own teachers?
Do you maintain your own legal system?

Many, many things are done better collectively than individually

And if you think the gov builds all roads you're an idiot.
These guys build a shitload of roads in Texas and they usually finish early and if not below budget at least on budget.
Williams Brothers Construction Company Inc.

Interesting...does Williams Brothers buy the land and build the roads with their own money or public funds? Do they maintain and police the roads?

Nope..the whole point is they can do it on budget and on time thus using our tax dollars wisely.

So you admit that the GOVERNMENT created all those Williams Brothers jobs

Through an efficient company that has an excellent track record.

Good for them. That is the intent of government contracts
All those Williams employees owe their jobs to the government

 

[rightwinger]

...Cons say Obama doesn't deserve credit for cutting unemployment in have, because the government can't create jobs.

But now Jeb Bush is promising to create 19 million jobs. And Trump is promising to create the most jobs of any previous POTUS.

Hypocrisy IS the GOP.

You are as usual, confused.

The government does NOT create jobs and both Bush and Trump would tell you that. If you had a functioning brain cell to your name, you'd know what they meant but you are an idiot so it has to be explained to you.

What they mean is to create an environment where private businesses can create jobs. Like reducing taxes, giving tax incentives, cutting regulations, and basically getting the goverent out if the way.

Another ignorant left wing nut thread killed. My job is done here.

Who created the millions of jobs in the defense department? Including the men and women in uniform?

Who created public school teaching and non-teaching jobs?

Who created the jobs in law enforcement?

Who created the jobs for every business that has business with the government?

They bought them with taxpayer dollars. Those kind of jobs don't help the economy nut ball.

The Government IS the people

Thats what taxpayers pay for

Irrelevant. Buying jobs is not creating jobs.

Please do explain

 

[PredFan]

You are as usual, confused.

The government does NOT create jobs and both Bush and Trump would tell you that. If you had a functioning brain cell to your name, you'd know what they meant but you are an idiot so it has to be explained to you.

What they mean is to create an environment where private businesses can create jobs. Like reducing taxes, giving tax incentives, cutting regulations, and basically getting the goverent out if the way.

Another ignorant left wing nut thread killed. My job is done here.

Who created the millions of jobs in the defense department? Including the men and women in uniform?

Who created public school teaching and non-teaching jobs?

Who created the jobs in law enforcement?

Who created the jobs for every business that has business with the government?

They bought them with taxpayer dollars. Those kind of jobs don't help the economy nut ball.

The Government IS the people

Thats what taxpayers pay for

Irrelevant. Buying jobs is not creating jobs.

Please do explain

Excuse me? You need that explained to you?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

...Cons say Obama doesn't deserve credit for cutting unemployment in have, because the government can't create jobs.

But now Jeb Bush is promising to create 19 million jobs. And Trump is promising to create the most jobs of any previous POTUS.

Hypocrisy IS the GOP.

What they are promoting is policies that encourage job creation in the private sector. Do try and keep up.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Government can create jobs but those jobs need to be funded by corporations and individuals paying taxes. When a private sector company creates a job, it is not dependent on taxes to fund and sustain the position.

 

[Boss]

Federal employees do not make the same as their private sector contemporaries...as a rule, the make less

Unproductive employees are not promoted or given raises. Each employee is given an annual appraisal and must meet an acceptable level of performance

Building roads is in the constitution. Once again you obsess over the level of government...it is all still GOVERNMENT

The title of the thread is the GOVERNMENT does not create jobs

Nope... as a rule, they make more.. they do less... they have to really fuck up to get fired.

Building roads is NOT in the Constitution.

Government is not Government. There are distinct roles provided in the Constitution for federal government and states. It doesn't state there is no difference or it doesn't matter who does what. That's YOUR cockamamie idea and not in accordance with the Constitution which enumerates powers to the federal government and leaves everything else up to the states and people respectively.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

And if you think the gov builds all roads you're an idiot.

Exactly! I get so fed up with the stupid liberal meme about the fucking roads and bridges! Anywhere a road or bridge is needed, the town, county or state vote to use state funds to build it. That's what the state and local governments do, not the federal government. Reason being, it's not fair for me (in Alabama) to pay for a bridge or road in Michigan or Alaska. I'm not going to receive any benefit from that and I shouldn't be obligated to pay for it. If the people of Michigan or Alaska want a road or bridge, let them pay for one. If we need one here, we'll do the same.

Do you realize that local, state and federal are all GOVERNMENT?

Do you realize the Williams Brothers are a private company?

A private company that gets paid by the Government
All their jobs are created by the government

By local government. And on time and on budget.

 

[jknowgood]

...Cons say Obama doesn't deserve credit for cutting unemployment in have, because the government can't create jobs.

But now Jeb Bush is promising to create 19 million jobs. And Trump is promising to create the most jobs of any previous POTUS.

Hypocrisy IS the GOP.

You are as usual, confused.

The government does NOT create jobs and both Bush and Trump would tell you that. If you had a functioning brain cell to your name, you'd know what they meant but you are an idiot so it has to be explained to you.

What they mean is to create an environment where private businesses can create jobs. Like reducing taxes, giving tax incentives, cutting regulations, and basically getting the goverent out if the way.

Another ignorant left wing nut thread killed. My job is done here.

Who created the millions of jobs in the defense department? Including the men and women in uniform?

Who created public school teaching and non-teaching jobs?

Who created the jobs in law enforcement?

Who created the jobs for every business that has business with the government?

Where does the government get the money to pay for those jobs.

 

[jknowgood]

The Government creates millions of jobs

2 million federal employees, state and local employees, policemen, firemen, teachers....

The entire defense industry is created by the governement

Who are then payed by the tax payer. Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

No you are not

Taxpayers are paying for services they demand

Really? I know damn well I dont demand more IRS employees.

IRS is one of the few agencies that make money

You mean, take money.

 

[rightwinger]

Who created the millions of jobs in the defense department? Including the men and women in uniform?

Who created public school teaching and non-teaching jobs?

Who created the jobs in law enforcement?

Who created the jobs for every business that has business with the government?

They bought them with taxpayer dollars. Those kind of jobs don't help the economy nut ball.

The Government IS the people

Thats what taxpayers pay for

Irrelevant. Buying jobs is not creating jobs.

Please do explain

Excuse me? You need that explained to you?

Yes...please explain what you are talking about
Ridicule will follow

 

[rightwinger]

And if you think the gov builds all roads you're an idiot.

Exactly! I get so fed up with the stupid liberal meme about the fucking roads and bridges! Anywhere a road or bridge is needed, the town, county or state vote to use state funds to build it. That's what the state and local governments do, not the federal government. Reason being, it's not fair for me (in Alabama) to pay for a bridge or road in Michigan or Alaska. I'm not going to receive any benefit from that and I shouldn't be obligated to pay for it. If the people of Michigan or Alaska want a road or bridge, let them pay for one. If we need one here, we'll do the same.

Do you realize that local, state and federal are all GOVERNMENT?

Do you realize the Williams Brothers are a private company?

A private company that gets paid by the Government
All their jobs are created by the government

By local government. And on time and on budget.

Some construction jobs are at the local level, some are at the state level, some are at the federal level

They are all still government created jobs

 

[jknowgood]

You make that out to be a good thing.

Why wouldn't it be?

No society can function without a government

Only a liberal would think expansion of government is a good thing.

Why not?

If government can do some things more efficiently than individuals...why shouldn't they?

What exactly does the government do more efficiently?
They couldnt even protect gov workers private info.

Do you build and maintain your own roads?
Do you hire your own police protection?
Do you verify the safety of your drinking water, food and drugs?
Hire your own teachers?
Do you maintain your own legal system?

Many, many things are done better collectively than individually

President Obama hates cops.

 

[rightwinger]

Federal employees do not make the same as their private sector contemporaries...as a rule, the make less

Unproductive employees are not promoted or given raises. Each employee is given an annual appraisal and must meet an acceptable level of performance

Building roads is in the constitution. Once again you obsess over the level of government...it is all still GOVERNMENT

The title of the thread is the GOVERNMENT does not create jobs

Nope... as a rule, they make more.. they do less... they have to really fuck up to get fired.

Building roads is NOT in the Constitution.

Government is not Government. There are distinct roles provided in the Constitution for federal government and states. It doesn't state there is no difference or it doesn't matter who does what. That's YOUR cockamamie idea and not in accordance with the Constitution which enumerates powers to the federal government and leaves everything else up to the states and people respectively.

Building roads is in the Constitution

Postal Clause - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[rightwinger]

...Cons say Obama doesn't deserve credit for cutting unemployment in have, because the government can't create jobs.

But now Jeb Bush is promising to create 19 million jobs. And Trump is promising to create the most jobs of any previous POTUS.

Hypocrisy IS the GOP.

You are as usual, confused.

The government does NOT create jobs and both Bush and Trump would tell you that. If you had a functioning brain cell to your name, you'd know what they meant but you are an idiot so it has to be explained to you.

What they mean is to create an environment where private businesses can create jobs. Like reducing taxes, giving tax incentives, cutting regulations, and basically getting the goverent out if the way.

Another ignorant left wing nut thread killed. My job is done here.

Who created the millions of jobs in the defense department? Including the men and women in uniform?

Who created public school teaching and non-teaching jobs?

Who created the jobs in law enforcement?

Who created the jobs for every business that has business with the government?

Where does the government get the money to pay for those jobs.

From the same "We the People" that created the government in the first place

 

[PredFan]

They bought them with taxpayer dollars. Those kind of jobs don't help the economy nut ball.

The Government IS the people

Thats what taxpayers pay for

Irrelevant. Buying jobs is not creating jobs.

Please do explain

Excuse me? You need that explained to you?

Yes...please explain what you are talking about
Ridicule will follow

Yeah I'm sure it will. Listening would never be a part of it for you.

 

[Claudette]

The Government creates millions of jobs

2 million federal employees, state and local employees, policemen, firemen, teachers....

The entire defense industry is created by the governement

Sure the public sector and Govt. create loads of jobs where salaries and benefits are paid for by the taxpayer.

Here's the problem... The government CAN create jobs.... tons of them! Each job they create is paid for by the taxpayer and the rate of pay is determined by tenure and longevity rather than free market capitalist economics. There is essentially no relationship between pay and performance or production. Wages are determined by formulas and tables unrelated to the free market.

In a free market society, these government jobs often are in direct competition with the private sector, which means they force private businesses to offer higher pay to compete. This means the cost of living goes up the more government jobs we create.

The real pitfall is, we can never create enough government jobs to bail out a struggling economy. In fact, more government jobs being funded by the taxpayer has the opposite effect. To improve the economy, the overwhelming majority of new jobs created should come from private sector capitalists. Liberals hear those three words and go into epileptic seizures because they are anti-capitalist Socialists.

Yup. Just take a look at Greece where everyone worked for the Govt. Leaving no one to work at a job that actually produced revenue. Revenue that was needed to RUN THE GOVT.

 

[Boss]

Federal employees do not make the same as their private sector contemporaries...as a rule, the make less

Unproductive employees are not promoted or given raises. Each employee is given an annual appraisal and must meet an acceptable level of performance

Building roads is in the constitution. Once again you obsess over the level of government...it is all still GOVERNMENT

The title of the thread is the GOVERNMENT does not create jobs

Nope... as a rule, they make more.. they do less... they have to really fuck up to get fired.

Building roads is NOT in the Constitution.

Government is not Government. There are distinct roles provided in the Constitution for federal government and states. It doesn't state there is no difference or it doesn't matter who does what. That's YOUR cockamamie idea and not in accordance with the Constitution which enumerates powers to the federal government and leaves everything else up to the states and people respectively.

Building roads is in the Constitution

Postal Clause - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Except there is nothing in there which gives federal government authority to build roads. This was for the purpose of establishing a postal communication service, building post offices, setting routes, etc.

From your link:
Thomas Jefferson feared that the postal service would become a source of patronage and a waste of money. Jefferson also expressed doubt at granting Congress the power to designate post roads, as he considered road building to be a state responsibility.