Compare Socialized Medicine to the American Mess.

The French health care system is one of universal health care largely financed by government national health insurance. In its 2000 assessment of world health care systems, the World Health Organization found that France provided the "best overall health care" in the world.[1] In 2005, France spent 11.2% of GDP on health care, or US$3,926 per capita, a figure much higher than the average spent by countries in Europe but less than in the US. Approximately 77% of health expenditures are covered by government funded agencies.[2]
Most general physicians are in private practice but draw their income from the public insurance funds. These funds, unlike their German counterparts, have never gained self-management responsibility. Instead, the government has taken responsibility for the financial and operational management of health insurance (by setting premium levels related to income and determining the prices of goods and services refunded).[1] The French National Health Service generally refunds patients 70% of most health care costs, and 100% in case of costly or long-term ailments. Supplemental coverage may be bought from private insurers, most of them nonprofit, mutual insurers. Until recently, coverage was restricted to those who contributed to social security (generally, workers or retirees), excluding some poor segments of the population; the government of Lionel Jospin put into place "universal health coverage" and extended the coverage to all those legally resident in France. Only about 3.7% of hospital treatment costs are reimbursed through private insurance, but a much higher share of the cost of spectacles and prostheses (21.9%), drugs (18.6%) and dental care (35.9%) (Figures from the year 2000). There are public hospitals, non-profit independent hospitals (which are linked to the public system), as well as private for-profit hospitals.
Average life expectancy in France at birth is 81 years.[3][4]
Health care in France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Compare Socialized Medicine to the American Mess

How 'bout.....​


"One way to answer this question is to compare kids in nations that have aggressively embraced free-market policies with kids in nations that have not.

The 2007 UNICEF "Report Card 7" does just that.

To compare the health, education, emotional and material well-being of children in 21 economically advanced nations, an international team of researchers looked at such indicators as whether children ate dinner with the family, had someone to talk to, were susceptible to accidents.

They reported the highest ratings of well-being among children living in the Netherlands, Sweden, Norway and Denmark — nations that, far more than we, tax the rich, regulate industry and provide such public services as paid parental leave, art subsidies and excellent public schools.

The lowest overall rank went to nations pursuing the strongest free-market agenda: the U.S. and Britain, both of which ranked in the bottom third for five of the six key dimensions of child well-being. The U.S. ranked dead last among these 21 affluent countries in child poverty and second to last in "family and peer relationships" and "behaviors and risks." The likelihood of a child skipping breakfast, of becoming fat, of smoking pot, of a teenage girl getting pregnant — on all these measure, the U.S. and Britain ranked worse than nearly all the other nations.
 
Pubs defend this mess to the death. Open your eyes fcs...dittoheads...

And you do nothing but repeat your Al Gore talking points.

Quit talking out your ass....blowhard.
Yeah....you World-traveling Teabaggers always have so much experience at.........not-much-of-anything.....


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxNhOBemsic]Q&A: T.R. Reid - YouTube[/ame]​
 
WOW, the socialized medicine nations also have high rates of suicide!

Not that there is a connection.
 
We need the Single Payer Solution to compete against the For Profit Monopolies. That will keep their rates down. They don't want this, which is how we know its a good idea.
BINGO!!!!


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi1acHg3mhw]BILL MOYERS JOURNAL | Single Payer Health Insurance | PBS - YouTube[/ame]​
 
Pretty soon health insurance will cost too much.....except for the very wealthy
Pretty soon drug coverage will be gone and will cost too much...except for the wealthy
Pretty soon people will show up sick...and because they dont have any way to pay for all of it they will be denied.....except for the wealthy
Medicare will be gone soon...tough luck senior citizens you cant afford it and it's your fault for retiring....except for the wealthy

In my eyes I see where all this is leading.

No doubt.......​

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War On The Weak

"How the GOP came to view the poor as parasites—and the rich as our rightful rulers."
 
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No one cares that Germany and France lead a lot healthier life styles...

Obesity Rates, by Country

United States: 30.6% (second place is Mexico, 24.2%)
Germany: 12.9%
Sweden: 9.7%
France: 9.4%
Japan: 3.2%

Comparison of Above Countries by Heart Disease Death Rates per 100,000

United States 80.5
Germany 75.0
Sweden 71.0
Japan 31.2
France 29.2


We are a country of slobs, people who are more concerned with what the Kardashians are up to than what we're doing to stay healthy. We wolf down fast food, guzzle soda and sit on our fat asses watching teevee 8 hours a day. We think that, because we're Americans, we somehow deserve this. All we're doing is killing ourselves slowly because our "culture" is all about entitlement, me first, I want mine. More, more, more, gimme gimme gimme.

Damn right this needs to be taken into consideration when discussing our health care system. But the politicians won't do it, because they may piss off their voters and lose their fucking precious government jobs.

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I already knew that especially Denmark, Sweden and Norway had high suicide rates. As islam slowly takes over Sweden, that might change.
 
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Republicans say "American helping American is socialism". They want to correct that. No one helps anyone else EVER. Then we will be living in the kind of nation they could really admire.
 
We need the Single Payer Solution to compete against the For Profit Monopolies. That will keep their rates down. They don't want this, which is how we know its a good idea.

The government has stopped competition between insurance companies. They should be able to sell policies across the country, but their hands are tied.

Auto insurance companies compete and, as a result, have gotten cheaper with better service. We don't need government to enter the picture for competition, we just need them to get out of the way.

If government got involved with auto insurance the same way they have inserted themselves into medical insurance, it would be a huge mess and auto insurance would be grossly expensive because the government would make them pay for oil changes, tune ups, new tires and maybe even gas.
 
Republicans say "American helping American is socialism". They want to correct that. No one helps anyone else EVER. Then we will be living in the kind of nation they could really admire.
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
- John Kenneth Galbraith
 
A nice cheep sensible government run option that people can buy into if they lose their job or work for themselves. And yes, a lot of employers would stop providing healthcare if this came to be, and isn't that great? Wouldn't that eliminate a big burden on corporations not to have to deal with healthcare? They cry about Sarbanes Oxley but I bet one of HR's biggest tasks is dealing with Heatlhcare. And its costing companies a fortune. I've never understood why they don't push for a public option too.

Just let young people buy into Medicare. Whatever Medicare is, give that to us. We would actually lower the costs of medicare because we aren't old. Consider how much seniors use the doctors. A lot more than we do. So we would actually strengthen medicare.

A cheap sensible government run option that's a contradiction in terms if there ever was one at least for this government.
 
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
- John Kenneth Galbraith

Last I checked, you're the one demanding someone else pay your bills for you. Ironic how you people never view yourselves as the selfish ones.
 

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