CNN poll: DACA not worth a shutdown, except to Democrats

[flacaltenn]

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

#1 57 percent of all households that are led by an immigrant (legal or illegal) are enrolled in at least one welfare program.

#2 According to one study, the cost to U.S. taxpayers of legalizing current illegal immigrants would be approximately 6.3 trillion dollars over the next 50 years.

#3 The Obama administration has distributed flyers that tell illegal immigrants that their immigration status will not be checked when they apply for food stamps.

#4 The Department of Homeland Security says that it has lost track of a million people that have entered this country but that appear never to have left.

#5 One out of every five children living in Los Angeles County has a parent that is in the country illegally.

#6 In one recent year, taxpayers in Los Angeles County spent 600 million dollars on welfare for children of illegal immigrants.

#7 Thanks to illegal immigration, California’s overstretched health care system is on the verge of collapse. Dozens of California hospitals and emergency rooms have shut down over the past decade because they could not afford to stay open after being endlessly swamped by illegal immigrants who were simply not able to pay for the services that they were receiving. As a result, the remainder of the health care system in the state of California is now beyond overloaded. This had led to brutally long waits, diverted ambulances and even unnecessary patient deaths. At this point, the state of California now ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

#8 It has been estimated that U.S. taxpayers spend $12,000,000,000 a yearon primary and secondary school education for the children of illegal immigrants.

#9 It is estimated that illegal aliens make up approximately 30 percent of the population in federal, state and local prisons and that the total cost of incarcerating them is more than $1.6 billion annually.

#10 The federal government actually has a website that teaches immigrants how to sign up for welfare programs once they arrive in the United States.

#11 The Obama administration recently introduced the very first “unmanned” border station along the Texas-Mexico border.

#12 The Obama administration has sued individual states such as Arizona that have tried to crack down on illegal immigration.

#13 According to the FBI, there are approximately 1.4 million gang members living in our cities. Illegal immigration has been one of the primary factors that has fueled the growth of these gangs.

#14 As I have written about previously, there are only about 200 police officers assigned to Chicago’s Gang Enforcement Unit to handle the estimated 100,000 gang members living in the city.

#15 Mexican drug cartels make approximately 6.6 billion dollars a year“exporting” illegal drugs to the United States.

#16 It is an open secret that Mexican drug cartels are openly conducting military operations inside the United States. The handful of border patrol agents that we have guarding the border are massively outgunned and outmanned.

#17 According to the Justice Department’s National Drug Intelligence Center, Mexican drug cartels were actively operating in 50 different U.S. cities in 2006. By 2010, that number had skyrocketed to 1,286.

#18 Overall, more than 55,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence in Mexico since 2006. That same level of violence will eventually show up in major U.S. cities unless something dramatic is done about illegal immigration.

#19 It is being projected that the Senate immigration bill will bring 33 million more people to the United States over the next decade.

Different problems.. It's triage of horrors because of the 30 years of immigration NEGLECT and mismanagement. I'm only arguing for starting with CRIMINAL deportations, local state cooperation with ICE to accomplish that -- and giving the DACA group special standing. THEN -- you have the MILLIONS of American born children of the illegals to deal with.

The govt fucked up HUGELY --- there's a LOT of clean-up required here.

How are Illegal immigrants discriminated against in this nation? They’re illegal?

Where'd you get I said they are discriminated against? They ALL have NEBULOUS status. Not every one of them deserves the SAME "fix". The DACA fix is unique. That's what we're discussing.

You DO KNOW that the REAL Bush92 is probably a YUUUGE DACA fan right? Is Bush92 what BriPat calls a traitorous snowflake? You might have to request a forum name change.

 

[Bush92]

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

#1 57 percent of all households that are led by an immigrant (legal or illegal) are enrolled in at least one welfare program.

#2 According to one study, the cost to U.S. taxpayers of legalizing current illegal immigrants would be approximately 6.3 trillion dollars over the next 50 years.

#3 The Obama administration has distributed flyers that tell illegal immigrants that their immigration status will not be checked when they apply for food stamps.

#4 The Department of Homeland Security says that it has lost track of a million people that have entered this country but that appear never to have left.

#5 One out of every five children living in Los Angeles County has a parent that is in the country illegally.

#6 In one recent year, taxpayers in Los Angeles County spent 600 million dollars on welfare for children of illegal immigrants.

#7 Thanks to illegal immigration, California’s overstretched health care system is on the verge of collapse. Dozens of California hospitals and emergency rooms have shut down over the past decade because they could not afford to stay open after being endlessly swamped by illegal immigrants who were simply not able to pay for the services that they were receiving. As a result, the remainder of the health care system in the state of California is now beyond overloaded. This had led to brutally long waits, diverted ambulances and even unnecessary patient deaths. At this point, the state of California now ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

#8 It has been estimated that U.S. taxpayers spend $12,000,000,000 a yearon primary and secondary school education for the children of illegal immigrants.

#9 It is estimated that illegal aliens make up approximately 30 percent of the population in federal, state and local prisons and that the total cost of incarcerating them is more than $1.6 billion annually.

#10 The federal government actually has a website that teaches immigrants how to sign up for welfare programs once they arrive in the United States.

#11 The Obama administration recently introduced the very first “unmanned” border station along the Texas-Mexico border.

#12 The Obama administration has sued individual states such as Arizona that have tried to crack down on illegal immigration.

#13 According to the FBI, there are approximately 1.4 million gang members living in our cities. Illegal immigration has been one of the primary factors that has fueled the growth of these gangs.

#14 As I have written about previously, there are only about 200 police officers assigned to Chicago’s Gang Enforcement Unit to handle the estimated 100,000 gang members living in the city.

#15 Mexican drug cartels make approximately 6.6 billion dollars a year“exporting” illegal drugs to the United States.

#16 It is an open secret that Mexican drug cartels are openly conducting military operations inside the United States. The handful of border patrol agents that we have guarding the border are massively outgunned and outmanned.

#17 According to the Justice Department’s National Drug Intelligence Center, Mexican drug cartels were actively operating in 50 different U.S. cities in 2006. By 2010, that number had skyrocketed to 1,286.

#18 Overall, more than 55,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence in Mexico since 2006. That same level of violence will eventually show up in major U.S. cities unless something dramatic is done about illegal immigration.

#19 It is being projected that the Senate immigration bill will bring 33 million more people to the United States over the next decade.

Different problems.. It's triage of horrors because of the 30 years of immigration NEGLECT and mismanagement. I'm only arguing for starting with CRIMINAL deportations, local state cooperation with ICE to accomplish that -- and giving the DACA group special standing. THEN -- you have the MILLIONS of American born children of the illegals to deal with.

The govt fucked up HUGELY --- there's a LOT of clean-up required here.

How are Illegal immigrants discriminated against in this nation? They’re illegal?

Where'd you get I said they are discriminated against? They ALL have NEBULOUS status. Not every one of them deserves the SAME "fix". The DACA fix is unique. That's what we're discussing.

You DO KNOW that the REAL Bush92 is probably a YUUUGE DACA fan right? Is Bush92 what BriPat calls a traitorous snowflake? You might have to request a forum name change.

Then the kids need to go through the legal process of citizenship. Why do you oppose this?

 

[Bush92]

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

#1 57 percent of all households that are led by an immigrant (legal or illegal) are enrolled in at least one welfare program.

#2 According to one study, the cost to U.S. taxpayers of legalizing current illegal immigrants would be approximately 6.3 trillion dollars over the next 50 years.

#3 The Obama administration has distributed flyers that tell illegal immigrants that their immigration status will not be checked when they apply for food stamps.

#4 The Department of Homeland Security says that it has lost track of a million people that have entered this country but that appear never to have left.

#5 One out of every five children living in Los Angeles County has a parent that is in the country illegally.

#6 In one recent year, taxpayers in Los Angeles County spent 600 million dollars on welfare for children of illegal immigrants.

#7 Thanks to illegal immigration, California’s overstretched health care system is on the verge of collapse. Dozens of California hospitals and emergency rooms have shut down over the past decade because they could not afford to stay open after being endlessly swamped by illegal immigrants who were simply not able to pay for the services that they were receiving. As a result, the remainder of the health care system in the state of California is now beyond overloaded. This had led to brutally long waits, diverted ambulances and even unnecessary patient deaths. At this point, the state of California now ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

#8 It has been estimated that U.S. taxpayers spend $12,000,000,000 a yearon primary and secondary school education for the children of illegal immigrants.

#9 It is estimated that illegal aliens make up approximately 30 percent of the population in federal, state and local prisons and that the total cost of incarcerating them is more than $1.6 billion annually.

#10 The federal government actually has a website that teaches immigrants how to sign up for welfare programs once they arrive in the United States.

#11 The Obama administration recently introduced the very first “unmanned” border station along the Texas-Mexico border.

#12 The Obama administration has sued individual states such as Arizona that have tried to crack down on illegal immigration.

#13 According to the FBI, there are approximately 1.4 million gang members living in our cities. Illegal immigration has been one of the primary factors that has fueled the growth of these gangs.

#14 As I have written about previously, there are only about 200 police officers assigned to Chicago’s Gang Enforcement Unit to handle the estimated 100,000 gang members living in the city.

#15 Mexican drug cartels make approximately 6.6 billion dollars a year“exporting” illegal drugs to the United States.

#16 It is an open secret that Mexican drug cartels are openly conducting military operations inside the United States. The handful of border patrol agents that we have guarding the border are massively outgunned and outmanned.

#17 According to the Justice Department’s National Drug Intelligence Center, Mexican drug cartels were actively operating in 50 different U.S. cities in 2006. By 2010, that number had skyrocketed to 1,286.

#18 Overall, more than 55,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence in Mexico since 2006. That same level of violence will eventually show up in major U.S. cities unless something dramatic is done about illegal immigration.

#19 It is being projected that the Senate immigration bill will bring 33 million more people to the United States over the next decade.

Different problems.. It's triage of horrors because of the 30 years of immigration NEGLECT and mismanagement. I'm only arguing for starting with CRIMINAL deportations, local state cooperation with ICE to accomplish that -- and giving the DACA group special standing. THEN -- you have the MILLIONS of American born children of the illegals to deal with.

The govt fucked up HUGELY --- there's a LOT of clean-up required here.

How are Illegal immigrants discriminated against in this nation? They’re illegal?

Where'd you get I said they are discriminated against? They ALL have NEBULOUS status. Not every one of them deserves the SAME "fix". The DACA fix is unique. That's what we're discussing.

You DO KNOW that the REAL Bush92 is probably a YUUUGE DACA fan right? Is Bush92 what BriPat calls a traitorous snowflake? You might have to request a forum name change.

We would not even be in this shape as a country if Clinton’s had been defeated in ‘92. Would be no DACA...no Obamacare...no fucked up public education system...etc

 

[flacaltenn]

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

#1 57 percent of all households that are led by an immigrant (legal or illegal) are enrolled in at least one welfare program.

#2 According to one study, the cost to U.S. taxpayers of legalizing current illegal immigrants would be approximately 6.3 trillion dollars over the next 50 years.

#3 The Obama administration has distributed flyers that tell illegal immigrants that their immigration status will not be checked when they apply for food stamps.

#4 The Department of Homeland Security says that it has lost track of a million people that have entered this country but that appear never to have left.

#5 One out of every five children living in Los Angeles County has a parent that is in the country illegally.

#6 In one recent year, taxpayers in Los Angeles County spent 600 million dollars on welfare for children of illegal immigrants.

#7 Thanks to illegal immigration, California’s overstretched health care system is on the verge of collapse. Dozens of California hospitals and emergency rooms have shut down over the past decade because they could not afford to stay open after being endlessly swamped by illegal immigrants who were simply not able to pay for the services that they were receiving. As a result, the remainder of the health care system in the state of California is now beyond overloaded. This had led to brutally long waits, diverted ambulances and even unnecessary patient deaths. At this point, the state of California now ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

#8 It has been estimated that U.S. taxpayers spend $12,000,000,000 a yearon primary and secondary school education for the children of illegal immigrants.

#9 It is estimated that illegal aliens make up approximately 30 percent of the population in federal, state and local prisons and that the total cost of incarcerating them is more than $1.6 billion annually.

#10 The federal government actually has a website that teaches immigrants how to sign up for welfare programs once they arrive in the United States.

#11 The Obama administration recently introduced the very first “unmanned” border station along the Texas-Mexico border.

#12 The Obama administration has sued individual states such as Arizona that have tried to crack down on illegal immigration.

#13 According to the FBI, there are approximately 1.4 million gang members living in our cities. Illegal immigration has been one of the primary factors that has fueled the growth of these gangs.

#14 As I have written about previously, there are only about 200 police officers assigned to Chicago’s Gang Enforcement Unit to handle the estimated 100,000 gang members living in the city.

#15 Mexican drug cartels make approximately 6.6 billion dollars a year“exporting” illegal drugs to the United States.

#16 It is an open secret that Mexican drug cartels are openly conducting military operations inside the United States. The handful of border patrol agents that we have guarding the border are massively outgunned and outmanned.

#17 According to the Justice Department’s National Drug Intelligence Center, Mexican drug cartels were actively operating in 50 different U.S. cities in 2006. By 2010, that number had skyrocketed to 1,286.

#18 Overall, more than 55,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence in Mexico since 2006. That same level of violence will eventually show up in major U.S. cities unless something dramatic is done about illegal immigration.

#19 It is being projected that the Senate immigration bill will bring 33 million more people to the United States over the next decade.

Different problems.. It's triage of horrors because of the 30 years of immigration NEGLECT and mismanagement. I'm only arguing for starting with CRIMINAL deportations, local state cooperation with ICE to accomplish that -- and giving the DACA group special standing. THEN -- you have the MILLIONS of American born children of the illegals to deal with.

The govt fucked up HUGELY --- there's a LOT of clean-up required here.

How are Illegal immigrants discriminated against in this nation? They’re illegal?

Where'd you get I said they are discriminated against? They ALL have NEBULOUS status. Not every one of them deserves the SAME "fix". The DACA fix is unique. That's what we're discussing.

You DO KNOW that the REAL Bush92 is probably a YUUUGE DACA fan right? Is Bush92 what BriPat calls a traitorous snowflake? You might have to request a forum name change.

Then the kids need to go through the legal process of citizenship. Why do you oppose this?

Because they had no part in the crimes. For one reason. Their MOM dragged them across the border before they hit puberty. And the ONLY difference between them and their YOUNGER siblings is that Mom had HERE in the States (and ARE NOW US CITIZENS) is a couple years of age.

So we keep the sibling that 2 or 5 years OLDER in LIMBO with NO home country to go to? While the 2 or 5 year younger kid is a FULL US citizen?? Doesn't make sense..

Second ---- I put young adults who have BEEN in the US for more than 12 years and attended US schools and have a sparkling clean record MUCH HIGHER in immigration priority than ANY foreigner in line for naturalization. MUCH HIGHER than "lottery" choices or UNVETTABLE refugees who don't even WANT to be American..

That answer your question? There's not a "one size fixes all" solution to the neglect and incompetence of the Fed govt immigration policy..

 

[The Original Tree]

DACA is not a Law. It is a circumvention of Law, and a delayed Enforcement of Law.

The second DACA expires and it was already extended once, Every so called Dreamer “Permanent Welfare Leach” can and will be DEPORTED!

Fucking Dems have ZERO compassion for impoverished kids needing health insurance but they’ll get down on their knees to suck Criminal Illegal Immigrant Cock while giving America, CHIPS kids, & Soldiers The Middle Finger

 

[S.J.]

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

You keep overlooking the fact that Democrats don't WANT to fix the problem.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why do non citizens mean so much more to democrats than citizens? Do ordinary democrat voters feel this way? Would you really sell out your own children for the benefit of those illegally here? Why?

Perhaps the answer is, democrats really want a purge of all non democrats and expect the illegals to be the replacement population. In that case, we have a very serious problem in this country. We need to start with some serious bloodletting and solve this.

 

[Bush92]

#1 57 percent of all households that are led by an immigrant (legal or illegal) are enrolled in at least one welfare program.

#2 According to one study, the cost to U.S. taxpayers of legalizing current illegal immigrants would be approximately 6.3 trillion dollars over the next 50 years.

#3 The Obama administration has distributed flyers that tell illegal immigrants that their immigration status will not be checked when they apply for food stamps.

#4 The Department of Homeland Security says that it has lost track of a million people that have entered this country but that appear never to have left.

#5 One out of every five children living in Los Angeles County has a parent that is in the country illegally.

#6 In one recent year, taxpayers in Los Angeles County spent 600 million dollars on welfare for children of illegal immigrants.

#7 Thanks to illegal immigration, California’s overstretched health care system is on the verge of collapse. Dozens of California hospitals and emergency rooms have shut down over the past decade because they could not afford to stay open after being endlessly swamped by illegal immigrants who were simply not able to pay for the services that they were receiving. As a result, the remainder of the health care system in the state of California is now beyond overloaded. This had led to brutally long waits, diverted ambulances and even unnecessary patient deaths. At this point, the state of California now ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

#8 It has been estimated that U.S. taxpayers spend $12,000,000,000 a yearon primary and secondary school education for the children of illegal immigrants.

#9 It is estimated that illegal aliens make up approximately 30 percent of the population in federal, state and local prisons and that the total cost of incarcerating them is more than $1.6 billion annually.

#10 The federal government actually has a website that teaches immigrants how to sign up for welfare programs once they arrive in the United States.

#11 The Obama administration recently introduced the very first “unmanned” border station along the Texas-Mexico border.

#12 The Obama administration has sued individual states such as Arizona that have tried to crack down on illegal immigration.

#13 According to the FBI, there are approximately 1.4 million gang members living in our cities. Illegal immigration has been one of the primary factors that has fueled the growth of these gangs.

#14 As I have written about previously, there are only about 200 police officers assigned to Chicago’s Gang Enforcement Unit to handle the estimated 100,000 gang members living in the city.

#15 Mexican drug cartels make approximately 6.6 billion dollars a year“exporting” illegal drugs to the United States.

#16 It is an open secret that Mexican drug cartels are openly conducting military operations inside the United States. The handful of border patrol agents that we have guarding the border are massively outgunned and outmanned.

#17 According to the Justice Department’s National Drug Intelligence Center, Mexican drug cartels were actively operating in 50 different U.S. cities in 2006. By 2010, that number had skyrocketed to 1,286.

#18 Overall, more than 55,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence in Mexico since 2006. That same level of violence will eventually show up in major U.S. cities unless something dramatic is done about illegal immigration.

#19 It is being projected that the Senate immigration bill will bring 33 million more people to the United States over the next decade.

Different problems.. It's triage of horrors because of the 30 years of immigration NEGLECT and mismanagement. I'm only arguing for starting with CRIMINAL deportations, local state cooperation with ICE to accomplish that -- and giving the DACA group special standing. THEN -- you have the MILLIONS of American born children of the illegals to deal with.

The govt fucked up HUGELY --- there's a LOT of clean-up required here.

How are Illegal immigrants discriminated against in this nation? They’re illegal?

Where'd you get I said they are discriminated against? They ALL have NEBULOUS status. Not every one of them deserves the SAME "fix". The DACA fix is unique. That's what we're discussing.

You DO KNOW that the REAL Bush92 is probably a YUUUGE DACA fan right? Is Bush92 what BriPat calls a traitorous snowflake? You might have to request a forum name change.

Then the kids need to go through the legal process of citizenship. Why do you oppose this?

Because they had no part in the crimes. For one reason. Their MOM dragged them across the border before they hit puberty. And the ONLY difference between them and their YOUNGER siblings is that Mom had HERE in the States (and ARE NOW US CITIZENS) is a couple years of age.

So we keep the sibling that 2 or 5 years OLDER in LIMBO with NO home country to go to? While the 2 or 5 year older kid is a FULL US citizen?? Doesn't make sense..

Second ---- I put young adults who have BEEN in the US for more than 12 years and attended US schools and have a sparkling clean record MUCH HIGHER in immigration priority than ANY foreigner in line for naturalization. MUCH HIGHER than "lottery" choices or UNVETTABLE refugees who don't even WANT to be American..

That answer your question? There's not a "one size fixes all" solution to the neglect and incompetence of the Fed govt immigration policy..

Yes. There is “one size fits all.” 14th Amendment says if your born on U.S. soil or territory...you are a citizen...if your not...well...your not.

 

[The Original Tree]

That’s absolutely true.

They don’t want anything done regarding immigration.

They want Chain Migration, Amnesty, and they want The Visa Lottery.

Look at how they even fight temporary travel bans.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

You keep overlooking the fact that Democrats don't WANT to fix the problem.

 

[Bush92]

That’s absolutely true.

They don’t want anything done regarding immigration.

They want Chain Migration, Amnesty, and they want The Visa Lottery.

Look at how they even fight temporary travel bans.

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

You keep overlooking the fact that Democrats don't WANT to fix the problem.

This person is a leader in Democratic Party...why they are totally a mess...

 

[BrokeLoser]

Not good for Dims:

CNN poll: DACA not worth a shutdown, except to Democrats - CNNPolitics​

Washington (CNN)With hours to go before a midnight deadline for Congress to fund the government or shut it down, most Americans say avoiding a shutdown is more important than passing a bill to maintain the program allowing people brought to the US illegally as children to stay, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

. . . .

Still, 56% overall say approving a budget agreement to avoid a shutdown is more important than continuing the DACA program, while just 34% choose DACA over a shutdown. Democrats break narrowly in favor of DACA -- 49% say it's more important vs. 42% who say avoiding a shutdown is the priority -- while majorities of both Republicans (75%) and independents (57%) say avoiding a shutdown is more important.​

DACA IS "worth it". If it's written correctly. And both side agree to that. It's just not something that should slide in on a 3 week EMERGENCY extension of the Govt operating budget.

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

“Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??”
Prosecuted?
Wouldn’t you think the better question would be....should children of criminal parents be given a winning lotto ticket and a free ride on the backs of American taxpayers?
Should foreigners be able to abandon their children in the laps of Americans?
If you’re gonna support DACA why not support amnesty for ALL brought here as children? That wouldn’t be fair....to the kids...right?
The point is, it’s never ending, there’s always a new sob story to be sold. Think about it, we thought we’d never hear the word amnesty again after the fuck up during the Reagan era and here we are now.
The shit has to end....precedent has to be set. We’re either a constitutional nation of law, order and legal precedent or we’re not.

 

[Bush92]

DACA IS "worth it". If it's written correctly. And both side agree to that. It's just not something that should slide in on a 3 week EMERGENCY extension of the Govt operating budget.

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

“Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??”
Prosecuted?
Wouldn’t you think the better question would be....should children of criminal parents be given a winning lotto ticket and a free ride on the backs of American taxpayers?
Should foreigners be able to abandon their children in the laps of Americans?
If you’re gonna support DACA why not support amnesty for ALL brought here as children? That wouldn’t be fair....to the kids...right?
The point is, it’s never ending, there’s always a new sob story to be sold. Think about it, we thought we’d never hear the word amnesty again after the fuck up during the Reagan era and here we are now.
The shit has to end....precedent has to be set. We’re either a constitutional nation of law, order and legal precedent or we’re not.

Bingo!

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Recent polls show 86% of Americans do not want a DACA deal and would prefer to spend valuable resources helping AMERICAN children.

Polls also indicate a growing wave of resentment against the Left for betraying children of American heritage in favor of children of illegal immigrants.

This will cost the Dimocrats dearly not only in 2018, but also in 2020

Schumer, Pelosi and the Dim leadership has all but handed the Conservative Right guaranteed wins for a long time to come.

 

[TomParks]

DACA IS "worth it". If it's written correctly. And both side agree to that. It's just not something that should slide in on a 3 week EMERGENCY extension of the Govt operating budget.

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

“Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??”
Prosecuted?
Wouldn’t you think the better question would be....should children of criminal parents be given a winning lotto ticket and a free ride on the backs of American taxpayers?
Should foreigners be able to abandon their children in the laps of Americans?
If you’re gonna support DACA why not support amnesty for ALL brought here as children? That wouldn’t be fair....to the kids...right?
The point is, it’s never ending, there’s always a new sob story to be sold. Think about it, we thought we’d never hear the word amnesty again after the fuck up during the Reagan era and here we are now.
The shit has to end....precedent has to be set. We’re either a constitutional nation of law, order and legal precedent or we’re not.

I don't see Trump budging one inch on this. If any dreamer wants to stay they need to pay and no voting either....you don't pay you don't stay simple enough.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

“Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??”
Prosecuted?
Wouldn’t you think the better question would be....should children of criminal parents be given a winning lotto ticket and a free ride on the backs of American taxpayers?
Should foreigners be able to abandon their children in the laps of Americans?
If you’re gonna support DACA why not support amnesty for ALL brought here as children? That wouldn’t be fair....to the kids...right?
The point is, it’s never ending, there’s always a new sob story to be sold. Think about it, we thought we’d never hear the word amnesty again after the fuck up during the Reagan era and here we are now.
The shit has to end....precedent has to be set. We’re either a constitutional nation of law, order and legal precedent or we’re not.

WELL SAID !!!!!

 

[Bush92]

Recent polls show 86% of Americans do not want a DACA deal and would prefer to spend valuable resources helping AMERICAN children.

Polls also indicate a growing wave of resentment against the Left for betraying children of American heritage in favor of children of illegal immigrants.

This will cost the Dimocrats dearly not only in 2018, but also in 2020

Schumer, Pelosi and the Dim leadership has all but handed the Conservative Right guaranteed wins for a long time to come.

Their stunts will fail...

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Their stunts will fail...

You know, as hard as many Leftists fight to support the corrupt Dem agenda, ultimately they are fighting themselves.

The Democrat leadership cares ONLY for it's own elitist, luxurious lifestyles and they are using divide and conquer techniques to manipulate and control their emotional followers.

They use EVERY trick in the book....from calling people racists, bigoted, sexist, homophobic....etc etc etc.
DEMOCRATS do that...NOT the Right. Yet in reality, THEIR leadership has always historically been those bad things more than ANYONE else.

The average Leftists will suffer right along with those on the right. They've just been skillfully tricked into believing otherwise.

It's Truly a real life situation of the chickens cheering for Col Sanders....because he's skillfully convinced them he's their friend...all the while sharpening his knives and preparing for a delicious chicken dinner behind their backs.

I don't know how...but somehow we have to help those lost chickens see the truth because our fate is entangled with theirs.

 

[flacaltenn]

DACA IS "worth it". If it's written correctly. And both side agree to that. It's just not something that should slide in on a 3 week EMERGENCY extension of the Govt operating budget.

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

“Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??”
Prosecuted?
Wouldn’t you think the better question would be....should children of criminal parents be given a winning lotto ticket and a free ride on the backs of American taxpayers?
Should foreigners be able to abandon their children in the laps of Americans?
If you’re gonna support DACA why not support amnesty for ALL brought here as children? That wouldn’t be fair....to the kids...right?
The point is, it’s never ending, there’s always a new sob story to be sold. Think about it, we thought we’d never hear the word amnesty again after the fuck up during the Reagan era and here we are now.
The shit has to end....precedent has to be set. We’re either a constitutional nation of law, order and legal precedent or we’re not.

A winning lottery ticket? Did ya read what I just wrote about WHY I support DACA? These DACA young adults are a FAR better deal than "VISA Lottery" winners or UNVETTABLE refugees from hellhole nations who don't even WANT to be American.

And these SHOULDN'T be "abandoned" children. That was Obama's biggest mistake on DACA. When he gave the entire world the impression that America was opening an unlimited WORLD orphanage. Cue the death trains thru Mexico with unescorted minors flooding in to be housed in gymnasiums for years. Cared for by weird Old Uncle Samuel.

DACA should apply ONLY to children that were ESCORTED into the states by their parents.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

Democrats have just committed political suicide.

i wonder if Maxine even knows what DACA is,,,,she probably thinks its a small town in the Ukraine

 

[easyt65]

Democrats admit there is not 1 thing in the CR that they oppose...

...but they have sided with illegals over Americans by shutting down the govt in an attempt to try to force DACA as a part of the CR.

DACA is a completely separate issue that needs to be a STAND-ALONE bill.

Democrats had 8 years to pass Constitutional DACA legislation and did not. They never tried hard, and THEY NEVER FORCED A SHUTDOWN UNDER OBAMA TO GET DACA DONE!

SCHUMER HAS LED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY INTO CONDUCTING AN UN-SUCCESSFUL 'SUICIDE BOMBING' AGAINST THE UNITED STATES...

...AND THEY CAN KISS THE MID-TERM ELECTIONS GOOD-BYE!