CNN poll: DACA not worth a shutdown, except to Democrats

[Bush92]

It's a arbitrary and meaningless issue. We can't dilute confronting illegal immigration by allowing the nightmares they cause as dreamers, I am a dreamer, too. I dream we enforce immigration laws.

Liberals need to understand the definition...
the definition of sovereignty

 

[Dschrute3]

The Democratic Party has chosen non-citizen interests over American Citizen interests. More folks are recognizing that than Democrats think. You don't shut the US Government down over non-citizen interests. Most Americans do not support that. Hopefully they'll make Democrats pay for it in future elections. Stay tuned.

 

[bripat9643]

The Democratic Party has chosen non-citizen interests over American Citizen interests. More folks are recognizing that than Democrats think. You don't shut the US Government down over non-citizen interests. Most Americans do not support that. Hopefully they'll make Democrats pay for it in future elections. Stay tuned.

This episode makes it clear that Dims don't want to secure the border. They simply can't deny it any longer.

 

[Dschrute3]

The Democratic Party has chosen non-citizen interests over American Citizen interests. More folks are recognizing that than Democrats think. You don't shut the US Government down over non-citizen interests. Most Americans do not support that. Hopefully they'll make Democrats pay for it in future elections. Stay tuned.

This episode makes it clear that Dims don't want to secure the border. They simply can't deny it any longer.

Yes, they're open about it now. They're now openly supporting non-citizen interests over American Citizen interests. They feel they have most Americans' support for it. I don't think they do. I think this will hurt them bigtime in future elections. You don't shut the US Government down over non-citizen interests.

 

[flacaltenn]

DACA IS "worth it". If it's written correctly. And both side agree to that. It's just not something that should slide in on a 3 week EMERGENCY extension of the Govt operating budget.

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

 

[Bush92]

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

Non-native kids? You mean that small % who go off and serve? What about all members of military who may not get paid because of Democrats?

 

[flacaltenn]

Not good for Dims:

CNN poll: DACA not worth a shutdown, except to Democrats - CNNPolitics​

Washington (CNN)With hours to go before a midnight deadline for Congress to fund the government or shut it down, most Americans say avoiding a shutdown is more important than passing a bill to maintain the program allowing people brought to the US illegally as children to stay, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

. . . .

Still, 56% overall say approving a budget agreement to avoid a shutdown is more important than continuing the DACA program, while just 34% choose DACA over a shutdown. Democrats break narrowly in favor of DACA -- 49% say it's more important vs. 42% who say avoiding a shutdown is the priority -- while majorities of both Republicans (75%) and independents (57%) say avoiding a shutdown is more important.​

DACA IS "worth it". If it's written correctly. And both side agree to that. It's just not something that should slide in on a 3 week EMERGENCY extension of the Govt operating budget.

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

Lots of them don't get charged even though they break the law.

Six and nine year olds get CHARGED for crimes of their parents? Really?? Did Hannity tell you that?

You and Bush92 ought to realize that the REAL Bush92 is probably "all in" on DACA.. YOU jerks have this vision of mass incarceration and deportation which is not gonna happen.

Get your govt to work correctly. Most of your issues would go away...

 

[TomParks]

The Democratic Party has chosen non-citizen interests over American Citizen interests. More folks are recognizing that than Democrats think. You don't shut the US Government down over non-citizen interests. Most Americans do not support that. Hopefully they'll make Democrats pay for it in future elections. Stay tuned.

This episode makes it clear that Dims don't want to secure the border. They simply can't deny it any longer.

And they don't give two shits about the dreamers except their votes.

 

[bripat9643]

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

#1 57 percent of all households that are led by an immigrant (legal or illegal) are enrolled in at least one welfare program.

#2 According to one study, the cost to U.S. taxpayers of legalizing current illegal immigrants would be approximately 6.3 trillion dollars over the next 50 years.

#3 The Obama administration has distributed flyers that tell illegal immigrants that their immigration status will not be checked when they apply for food stamps.

#4 The Department of Homeland Security says that it has lost track of a million people that have entered this country but that appear never to have left.

#5 One out of every five children living in Los Angeles County has a parent that is in the country illegally.

#6 In one recent year, taxpayers in Los Angeles County spent 600 million dollars on welfare for children of illegal immigrants.

#7 Thanks to illegal immigration, California’s overstretched health care system is on the verge of collapse. Dozens of California hospitals and emergency rooms have shut down over the past decade because they could not afford to stay open after being endlessly swamped by illegal immigrants who were simply not able to pay for the services that they were receiving. As a result, the remainder of the health care system in the state of California is now beyond overloaded. This had led to brutally long waits, diverted ambulances and even unnecessary patient deaths. At this point, the state of California now ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

#8 It has been estimated that U.S. taxpayers spend $12,000,000,000 a yearon primary and secondary school education for the children of illegal immigrants.

#9 It is estimated that illegal aliens make up approximately 30 percent of the population in federal, state and local prisons and that the total cost of incarcerating them is more than $1.6 billion annually.

#10 The federal government actually has a website that teaches immigrants how to sign up for welfare programs once they arrive in the United States.

#11 The Obama administration recently introduced the very first “unmanned” border station along the Texas-Mexico border.

#12 The Obama administration has sued individual states such as Arizona that have tried to crack down on illegal immigration.

#13 According to the FBI, there are approximately 1.4 million gang members living in our cities. Illegal immigration has been one of the primary factors that has fueled the growth of these gangs.

#14 As I have written about previously, there are only about 200 police officers assigned to Chicago’s Gang Enforcement Unit to handle the estimated 100,000 gang members living in the city.

#15 Mexican drug cartels make approximately 6.6 billion dollars a year“exporting” illegal drugs to the United States.

#16 It is an open secret that Mexican drug cartels are openly conducting military operations inside the United States. The handful of border patrol agents that we have guarding the border are massively outgunned and outmanned.

#17 According to the Justice Department’s National Drug Intelligence Center, Mexican drug cartels were actively operating in 50 different U.S. cities in 2006. By 2010, that number had skyrocketed to 1,286.

#18 Overall, more than 55,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence in Mexico since 2006. That same level of violence will eventually show up in major U.S. cities unless something dramatic is done about illegal immigration.

#19 It is being projected that the Senate immigration bill will bring 33 million more people to the United States over the next decade.

 

[bripat9643]

Not good for Dims:

CNN poll: DACA not worth a shutdown, except to Democrats - CNNPolitics​

Washington (CNN)With hours to go before a midnight deadline for Congress to fund the government or shut it down, most Americans say avoiding a shutdown is more important than passing a bill to maintain the program allowing people brought to the US illegally as children to stay, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

. . . .

Still, 56% overall say approving a budget agreement to avoid a shutdown is more important than continuing the DACA program, while just 34% choose DACA over a shutdown. Democrats break narrowly in favor of DACA -- 49% say it's more important vs. 42% who say avoiding a shutdown is the priority -- while majorities of both Republicans (75%) and independents (57%) say avoiding a shutdown is more important.​

DACA IS "worth it". If it's written correctly. And both side agree to that. It's just not something that should slide in on a 3 week EMERGENCY extension of the Govt operating budget.

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

Lots of them don't get charged even though they break the law.

Six and nine year olds get CHARGED for crimes of their parents? Really?? Did Hannity tell you that?

You and Bush92 ought to realize that the REAL Bush92 is probably "all in" on DACA.. YOU jerks have this vision of mass incarceration and deportation which is not gonna happen.

Get your govt to work correctly. Most of your issues would go away...

DACA people broke the law themselves, numskull. Bush92 is an establishment RINO.

 

[bripat9643]

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

Non-native kids? You mean that small % who go off and serve? What about all members of military who may not get paid because of Democrats?

I heard someone say that only 0.5% of DACA people ever served in the military.

 

[flacaltenn]

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

#1 57 percent of all households that are led by an immigrant (legal or illegal) are enrolled in at least one welfare program.

#2 According to one study, the cost to U.S. taxpayers of legalizing current illegal immigrants would be approximately 6.3 trillion dollars over the next 50 years.

#3 The Obama administration has distributed flyers that tell illegal immigrants that their immigration status will not be checked when they apply for food stamps.

#4 The Department of Homeland Security says that it has lost track of a million people that have entered this country but that appear never to have left.

#5 One out of every five children living in Los Angeles County has a parent that is in the country illegally.

#6 In one recent year, taxpayers in Los Angeles County spent 600 million dollars on welfare for children of illegal immigrants.

#7 Thanks to illegal immigration, California’s overstretched health care system is on the verge of collapse. Dozens of California hospitals and emergency rooms have shut down over the past decade because they could not afford to stay open after being endlessly swamped by illegal immigrants who were simply not able to pay for the services that they were receiving. As a result, the remainder of the health care system in the state of California is now beyond overloaded. This had led to brutally long waits, diverted ambulances and even unnecessary patient deaths. At this point, the state of California now ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

#8 It has been estimated that U.S. taxpayers spend $12,000,000,000 a yearon primary and secondary school education for the children of illegal immigrants.

#9 It is estimated that illegal aliens make up approximately 30 percent of the population in federal, state and local prisons and that the total cost of incarcerating them is more than $1.6 billion annually.

#10 The federal government actually has a website that teaches immigrants how to sign up for welfare programs once they arrive in the United States.

#11 The Obama administration recently introduced the very first “unmanned” border station along the Texas-Mexico border.

#12 The Obama administration has sued individual states such as Arizona that have tried to crack down on illegal immigration.

#13 According to the FBI, there are approximately 1.4 million gang members living in our cities. Illegal immigration has been one of the primary factors that has fueled the growth of these gangs.

#14 As I have written about previously, there are only about 200 police officers assigned to Chicago’s Gang Enforcement Unit to handle the estimated 100,000 gang members living in the city.

#15 Mexican drug cartels make approximately 6.6 billion dollars a year“exporting” illegal drugs to the United States.

#16 It is an open secret that Mexican drug cartels are openly conducting military operations inside the United States. The handful of border patrol agents that we have guarding the border are massively outgunned and outmanned.

#17 According to the Justice Department’s National Drug Intelligence Center, Mexican drug cartels were actively operating in 50 different U.S. cities in 2006. By 2010, that number had skyrocketed to 1,286.

#18 Overall, more than 55,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence in Mexico since 2006. That same level of violence will eventually show up in major U.S. cities unless something dramatic is done about illegal immigration.

#19 It is being projected that the Senate immigration bill will bring 33 million more people to the United States over the next decade.

Different problems.. It's triage of horrors because of the 30 years of immigration NEGLECT and mismanagement. I'm only arguing for starting with CRIMINAL deportations, local state cooperation with ICE to accomplish that -- and giving the DACA group special standing. THEN -- you have the MILLIONS of American born children of the illegals to deal with.

The govt fucked up HUGELY --- there's a LOT of clean-up required here.

 

[flacaltenn]

DACA IS "worth it". If it's written correctly. And both side agree to that. It's just not something that should slide in on a 3 week EMERGENCY extension of the Govt operating budget.

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

Lots of them don't get charged even though they break the law.

Six and nine year olds get CHARGED for crimes of their parents? Really?? Did Hannity tell you that?

You and Bush92 ought to realize that the REAL Bush92 is probably "all in" on DACA.. YOU jerks have this vision of mass incarceration and deportation which is not gonna happen.

Get your govt to work correctly. Most of your issues would go away...

DACA people broke the law themselves, numskull. Bush92 is an establishment RINO.

Six and Nine years old "broke the law themselves" ?? You still stuck on stupid or something?

 

[bripat9643]

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

The wall is the only solution that can't be made to disappear with the stroke of a pen the minute some douchebag Democrats gets into office, and the wall will give far more bang for the buck than any other proposed solution. The wall is essential to effectively securing the border, and that's precisely why all you snowflake traitor vermin oppose it so fiercely.

Who do you think you're fooling, asshole?

 

[Bush92]

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

#1 57 percent of all households that are led by an immigrant (legal or illegal) are enrolled in at least one welfare program.

#2 According to one study, the cost to U.S. taxpayers of legalizing current illegal immigrants would be approximately 6.3 trillion dollars over the next 50 years.

#3 The Obama administration has distributed flyers that tell illegal immigrants that their immigration status will not be checked when they apply for food stamps.

#4 The Department of Homeland Security says that it has lost track of a million people that have entered this country but that appear never to have left.

#5 One out of every five children living in Los Angeles County has a parent that is in the country illegally.

#6 In one recent year, taxpayers in Los Angeles County spent 600 million dollars on welfare for children of illegal immigrants.

#7 Thanks to illegal immigration, California’s overstretched health care system is on the verge of collapse. Dozens of California hospitals and emergency rooms have shut down over the past decade because they could not afford to stay open after being endlessly swamped by illegal immigrants who were simply not able to pay for the services that they were receiving. As a result, the remainder of the health care system in the state of California is now beyond overloaded. This had led to brutally long waits, diverted ambulances and even unnecessary patient deaths. At this point, the state of California now ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

#8 It has been estimated that U.S. taxpayers spend $12,000,000,000 a yearon primary and secondary school education for the children of illegal immigrants.

#9 It is estimated that illegal aliens make up approximately 30 percent of the population in federal, state and local prisons and that the total cost of incarcerating them is more than $1.6 billion annually.

#10 The federal government actually has a website that teaches immigrants how to sign up for welfare programs once they arrive in the United States.

#11 The Obama administration recently introduced the very first “unmanned” border station along the Texas-Mexico border.

#12 The Obama administration has sued individual states such as Arizona that have tried to crack down on illegal immigration.

#13 According to the FBI, there are approximately 1.4 million gang members living in our cities. Illegal immigration has been one of the primary factors that has fueled the growth of these gangs.

#14 As I have written about previously, there are only about 200 police officers assigned to Chicago’s Gang Enforcement Unit to handle the estimated 100,000 gang members living in the city.

#15 Mexican drug cartels make approximately 6.6 billion dollars a year“exporting” illegal drugs to the United States.

#16 It is an open secret that Mexican drug cartels are openly conducting military operations inside the United States. The handful of border patrol agents that we have guarding the border are massively outgunned and outmanned.

#17 According to the Justice Department’s National Drug Intelligence Center, Mexican drug cartels were actively operating in 50 different U.S. cities in 2006. By 2010, that number had skyrocketed to 1,286.

#18 Overall, more than 55,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence in Mexico since 2006. That same level of violence will eventually show up in major U.S. cities unless something dramatic is done about illegal immigration.

#19 It is being projected that the Senate immigration bill will bring 33 million more people to the United States over the next decade.

Different problems.. It's triage of horrors because of the 30 years of immigration NEGLECT and mismanagement. I'm only arguing for starting with CRIMINAL deportations, local state cooperation with ICE to accomplish that -- and giving the DACA group special standing. THEN -- you have the MILLIONS of American born children of the illegals to deal with.

The govt fucked up HUGELY --- there's a LOT of clean-up required here.

How are Illegal immigrants discriminated against in this nation? They’re illegal?

 

[Bush92]

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

The wall is the only solution that can't be made to disappear with the stroke of a pen the minute some douchebag Democrats gets into office, and the wall will give far more bang for the buck than any other proposed solution. The wall is essential to effectively securing the border, and that's precisely why all you snowflake traitor vermin oppose it so fiercely.

Who do you think you're fooling, asshole?

Why it must be built.

 

[flacaltenn]

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

The wall is the only solution that can't be made to disappear with the stroke of a pen the minute some douchebag Democrats gets into office, and the wall will give far more bang for the buck than any other proposed solution. The wall is essential to effectively securing the border, and that's precisely why all you snowflake traitor assholes oppose it so fiercely.

Who do you think you're fooling, asshole?

So 40,000 employers of illegal aliens behind bars when the next Demo power triad happens. And SUDDENLY, hiring illegals is gonna be honky dory all over again? Nope. It's the fucking law. Enforce it. No wall required.

Answer the question.. WHY hasn't that happened under the past 3 admins?

 

[Bush92]

DACA rewards law breakers. Pay the $$$$$ and go to citizenship classes.

Didn't know a lot of 6 or 9 year olds get charged as law-breakers.. Is this something new that you want to do?

Lots of them don't get charged even though they break the law.

Six and nine year olds get CHARGED for crimes of their parents? Really?? Did Hannity tell you that?

You and Bush92 ought to realize that the REAL Bush92 is probably "all in" on DACA.. YOU jerks have this vision of mass incarceration and deportation which is not gonna happen.

Get your govt to work correctly. Most of your issues would go away...

DACA people broke the law themselves, numskull. Bush92 is an establishment RINO.

Six and Nine years old "broke the law themselves" ?? You still stuck on stupid or something?

Their parents did. They were in violation of the law. So...there kids must go through the process legally.

 

[bripat9643]

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

#1 57 percent of all households that are led by an immigrant (legal or illegal) are enrolled in at least one welfare program.

#2 According to one study, the cost to U.S. taxpayers of legalizing current illegal immigrants would be approximately 6.3 trillion dollars over the next 50 years.

#3 The Obama administration has distributed flyers that tell illegal immigrants that their immigration status will not be checked when they apply for food stamps.

#4 The Department of Homeland Security says that it has lost track of a million people that have entered this country but that appear never to have left.

#5 One out of every five children living in Los Angeles County has a parent that is in the country illegally.

#6 In one recent year, taxpayers in Los Angeles County spent 600 million dollars on welfare for children of illegal immigrants.

#7 Thanks to illegal immigration, California’s overstretched health care system is on the verge of collapse. Dozens of California hospitals and emergency rooms have shut down over the past decade because they could not afford to stay open after being endlessly swamped by illegal immigrants who were simply not able to pay for the services that they were receiving. As a result, the remainder of the health care system in the state of California is now beyond overloaded. This had led to brutally long waits, diverted ambulances and even unnecessary patient deaths. At this point, the state of California now ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

#8 It has been estimated that U.S. taxpayers spend $12,000,000,000 a yearon primary and secondary school education for the children of illegal immigrants.

#9 It is estimated that illegal aliens make up approximately 30 percent of the population in federal, state and local prisons and that the total cost of incarcerating them is more than $1.6 billion annually.

#10 The federal government actually has a website that teaches immigrants how to sign up for welfare programs once they arrive in the United States.

#11 The Obama administration recently introduced the very first “unmanned” border station along the Texas-Mexico border.

#12 The Obama administration has sued individual states such as Arizona that have tried to crack down on illegal immigration.

#13 According to the FBI, there are approximately 1.4 million gang members living in our cities. Illegal immigration has been one of the primary factors that has fueled the growth of these gangs.

#14 As I have written about previously, there are only about 200 police officers assigned to Chicago’s Gang Enforcement Unit to handle the estimated 100,000 gang members living in the city.

#15 Mexican drug cartels make approximately 6.6 billion dollars a year“exporting” illegal drugs to the United States.

#16 It is an open secret that Mexican drug cartels are openly conducting military operations inside the United States. The handful of border patrol agents that we have guarding the border are massively outgunned and outmanned.

#17 According to the Justice Department’s National Drug Intelligence Center, Mexican drug cartels were actively operating in 50 different U.S. cities in 2006. By 2010, that number had skyrocketed to 1,286.

#18 Overall, more than 55,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence in Mexico since 2006. That same level of violence will eventually show up in major U.S. cities unless something dramatic is done about illegal immigration.

#19 It is being projected that the Senate immigration bill will bring 33 million more people to the United States over the next decade.

Different problems.. It's triage of horrors because of the 30 years of immigration NEGLECT and mismanagement. I'm only arguing for starting with CRIMINAL deportations, local state cooperation with ICE to accomplish that -- and giving the DACA group special standing. THEN -- you have the MILLIONS of American born children of the illegals to deal with.

The govt fucked up HUGELY --- there's a LOT of clean-up required here.

How are Illegal immigrants discriminated against in this nation? They’re illegal?

Who cares if they are discriminated against? I sure as hell don't.

 

[bripat9643]

It’s about their parents. Guess you have not read the 14th Amendment.

Do children of law-breakers ever get prosecuted 20 years after the crime??

Here's your problem. Political leadership took a 3 decade vacay from responsibility on this issue. COMPLETELY ignored and demagogued it to death.. Did fucking NOTHING. Could have been FIXED in a week at ANY point in time by simply enforcing the existing law of PROSECUTING BUSINESSES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Overnight solution.. No wall required.

And NOW -- you want to blame and infract 6 and 9 yr old "accessories to crime"..

Shameful.. That our govt is so inept and incompetent. And when it gets bad enough, someone has to take the blows for them... And shameful that your anger is directed towards them. AND NOT -- the political leadership that needs to be deported from Washington D.C.

Why should native born Americans take it up the ass?

You've been sodomized and traumatized for all these years huh??? And hardly even noticed. While many of these non-native kids have been off fighting and dying in Afghanistan or Iraq in your name. Or going into Med fields to take care of your lame ass in your old age..

Told you idiot. There's NO IMMIGRATION crisis that can't be fixed without the wall and almost INSTANTANEOUSLY.. Just enforce the current law. Start arresting employers.

WHY -- do you think this does not happen???

The wall is the only solution that can't be made to disappear with the stroke of a pen the minute some douchebag Democrats gets into office, and the wall will give far more bang for the buck than any other proposed solution. The wall is essential to effectively securing the border, and that's precisely why all you snowflake traitor assholes oppose it so fiercely.

Who do you think you're fooling, asshole?

So 40,000 employers of illegal aliens behind bars when the next Demo power triad happens. And SUDDENLY, hiring illegals is gonna be honky dory all over again? Nope. It's the fucking law. Enforce it. No wall required.

Answer the question.. WHY hasn't that happened under the past 3 admins?

Obama didn't enforce the law. He openly refused to enforce it and even prevented state and local government from enforcing it.

You are truly naive if you believe Democrats are going to enforce immigration law.