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As described in the Bible...
Not at church.... that is what we are talking about here!
There goes the Incredible Larkinns diappearing act again!!!!
Peh...this is one thing that has been repeated throughout this thread which is just moronic. They can do as they wish? No shit. Freedom of religion? No shit. Nobody is advocating the government censure them or tear down their church or some shit. Just as they have the freedom of religion to deny people funerals, we have the freedom of speech and expression to give our views about those tactics. This has nothing at all to do with freedom of religion.
Your factually wrong. No one denied this person a funeral. The specific church refused on grounds of what the church believes would be condoning his behavior if they held his service. Further they provided food and a new place to hold the service, the also offered to help the family in other ways. You like to play word games, This is simply not true. NO ONE denied the man a Funeral.
Because we live in a free and open society. Don't like it? Move to a totalitarian state like North Korea or Burma. Those type of countries fit your sensibilities more.
My position:
Private businesses, charities, and churches (profits and non-profits) should be free to do as they please. People can buy things or donate as they see fit based upon whether or not they condone the activity of the business or charity. A church might not technically be a business but in a practical sense it is. Just look at the money churches rake in and how much it keeps for itself. Look at the huge elaborate cathedrals, art works and other items. Look at the items being hawked by Pat Robertson. He has turned into an infomercial.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/25/AR2005082501806.html
Read about how a preacher would take donations but ignore prayer request letters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Tilton#Continuing_scandal
Read about the Christian park.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_PTL_Club
Look at the wealth displayed by popular preachers.
Yes, we ARE free, Free to chose NOT to endorse or appear to endorse actions we disagree with. This church is opposed to endorsing or appearing to condone Homosexual affairs. They were not aware he was homosexual, they were not aware the memorial would include homosexual images, they did not agree that the family should run the entire procedure , making it appear as if the Church accepted and condoned Homosexual affairs and that life style.
The church however did try to accomadate the family in other ways that did not involve having the church appear to condone the homosexual life style. But you and the rest want to pretend this church should have done JUST that.
I know...I like sticking to the actual definitions of words as opposed to making them up as I go along. Terrible of me isn't it RGS?
Yes, they denied him a funeral. Whether its justifiable or not is a separate issue, but they denied him a funeral.
Lmao...the Bible describes a moral system and how things OUGHT to be, not how things ARE.?
Nope...even at church you are still in a free and open society. And by the way, you asked why YOU need to accept their behavior, not why the church needs to accept their behavior so no, we weren't talking about the church just then.
IT IS A CHURCH YOU MORON!!!!
Wrong... what did Jesus do when they had an open society in the temple?
go get you big sister kid... This board is for adults.
NO they did not, they denied him a Memorial AT their Church. He still had a funeral, he still had a memorial. I suggest you look up what those words mean. No one denied him either a funeral or a memorial. He in fact had both of those events.
*sigh*
From dictionary.com...
to withhold something from, or refuse to grant a request of: to deny a beggar.
They refused to grant a request for a funeral. That does not mean he was denied all funerals, just that particular one.
By the way...a word of advice. Before telling someone else to look something up, look it up yourself first.
And where in the article does it say homosexuality would be praised?
Its their right to do this, but it is also highly fucked up. Everyone deserves a funeral, whether you agree or disagree with how they lived their life. They are dead now, have a little bit of fucking respect.
So are you a Church? You said "I have no tolerance for gay men... Why should I have to accept thier behavior..." which is what I was responding too. Please tell me what that statement has to do with Church? .
I have no idea, and couldn't care less..
I honestly don't know how to respond to an insult like this. It is so patheticly childish, so amusingly immature. If I respond with an insult I will feel as if I am kicking a small child, or perhaps a monkey in a zoo. I know you won't be able to respond with any sort of decent insult, so I guess I'll just let it go. But it did make me laugh, so thanks for that.
Sure they are...this particular church is denying him a funeral. Thats the whole point of the article.
And as to your response to my question...please look up the difference between "identify" and "praise". There is most certainly a difference between the two terms.
He HAD a funeral. He was not denied a Funeral.
Why shoul I have to hear about it at church?
Then you shouldnt even be posting on this thread or any topic involving Christianity
Glad I could make you smile... Now go get your big sister!
Umm, no. What an asinine opinion.
So you dont know a fuckin thing about Chistianity, but you think your opinion on how the church should conduct itself is relevent...