Retards like you should be prevented from starting threads:
In any event, a 16 percent raise over 4 years works out, at best, to a four percent annual raise.Terry Moran: How much fucking money do you make a year? « Corey Robin
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Second, as Doug Henwood points out, Chicago is also asking the teachers for a 20 percent longer school day. Once you take that and inflation into account, the four percent annual raise works out to be a cut, not a raise.
Third, according to the Chicago affiliate of ABC NewsMorans networkDavid Vitale, head of the Chicago School District, says that the city is offering a 3 percent raise the first year, and 2 percent raises for the remaining three years of the contract. That hardly works out to a 16 percent raise. 9 percent at best. As Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, a Chicago resident and history grad student at Northwestern, explains to me, the city hasnt revealed how it came up with that 16 percent figure, but the best guess is that it includes other things like step increases, which are based on seniority. Contrary to what Moran suggests, it is in no way is an increase in base pay.
Fourth, as Doug also points out, BLS statistics indicate that the average pay for Chicago teachers is $55-60 thousand, not $74,000.
And fifth, the Times takes great pains to stress that it is citing management numbers. Setting aside the fact that those numbers appear to be wrong, how hard is it for Morana journalistto take that into account in his statements? Even the most simpleminded definition of objectivityreport both sides of the storywould suggest a certain degree of skepticism on his part.
Okay, thats all that the level of the facts. But lets assume for the sake of the argument that Moran had his facts right. There still remains this question, which I posed to Moran in a followup tweet and never got an answer to.
This is sooo fucking easy!
They are also fighting for smaller class sizes.
Don't post facts. Many on here feel facts spoil a good tussle.
Many just grab a bumper-sticker slogan and run with it...
If they knew the facts, they wouldn't have the beliefs they have.
The facts? You mean like the fact that we spend more per student than almost anyone on the planet yet our kids aren't learning? You mean THOSE kind of facts?
Look, the money isn't there for the salaries that we're paying teachers. Sorry but it's not. The days of automatic raises from sympathetic politicians are pretty much over. If you don't think so then explain what's going on in Chicago with a progressive Mayor like Rahm Emanuel reining in the teacher's union. If that isn't a sign of a coming "apocalypse" for both public sector unions and the liberals who rabidly support them, then I don't know what is.