Chicago Cubs

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The Cubs signed Craig Counsell to a five year 8 million dollar contract even though he has a poor playoff record and never took the Brewers to a World Series.

https://www.si.com/mlb/cubs/opinions/did-chicago-cubs-overpay-craig-counsell-tyler9

 

[Oddball]

He took also-rans and turned them into contenders....Anything can, and usually does, happen in the playoffs.

Bobby Cox only one WS in Atlanta, and nobody doubted his managing chops.

 

[Blaster]

I'm not impressed with Counsell. He had the best pitching staff in baseball but went 0-2 in the playoffs.

 

[Blaster]

David Ross was fired by the Cubs despite being very popular with his players.

 

[Synthaholic]

I think Counsell is overrated and certainly not worth this record contract. MLB Network absolutely loves him and thinks he can do no wrong.

I was impressed with David Ross taking the Cubs to the brink of the playoffs this year when no one thought they would contend at all.

Now that beloved Braves 3B coach Ron Washington has been signed to manage the Angels, maybe the Braves can bring back Ross as a coach. If the Braves win the WS next year, hopefully Brian Snitker will retire, and Ross can take over as manager.

 

[Oddball]

Lots of "popular" managers have failed to get the job done...Did the Cubs even make the playoffs?

 

[Blaster]

Lots of "popular" managers have failed to get the job done...Did the Cubs even make the playoffs?

They won their division just a few years ago.

 

[Blaster]

I think Counsell is overrated and certainly not worth this record contract. MLB Network absolutely loves him and thinks he can do no wrong.

I was impressed with David Ross taking the Cubs to the brink of the playoffs this year when no one thought they would contend at all.

Now that beloved Braves 3B coach Ron Washington has been signed to manage the Angels, maybe the Braves can bring back Ross as a coach. If the Braves win the WS next year, hopefully Brian Snitker will retire, and Ross can take over as manager.

I agree with you.

 

[Synthaholic]

Lots of "popular" managers have failed to get the job done...Did the Cubs even make the playoffs?

They just missed by being swept in a final week series.

 

[Oddball]

Yeah, just a few years ago....Not recently.

 

[Blaster]

Yeah, just a few years ago....Not recently.

They won their division with less talent than the Brewers have.

 

[Oddball]

They won their division with less talent than the Brewers have.

As was already noted, anything can happen in the playoffs...If the example of the would-be dynasty that was the Atlanta Braves in the 1990s isn't proof of that, what would be?

 

[Blaster]

My point is that Counsell is overrated as a manager.

 

[odanny]

The Cubs reset the market on manager pay, he is making $8 million a year, I believe the next highest paid manager is $4.5 million a year.

 

[Blaster]

The Cubs reset the market on manager pay, he is making $8 million a year, I believe the next highest paid manager is $4.5 million a year.

They overpaid for him.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'm not impressed with Counsell. He had the best pitching staff in baseball but went 0-2 in the playoffs.

they aint the only ones who got swept....

 

[Blaster]

they aint the only ones who got swept....

Counsell got swept more than just one time.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Counsell got swept more than just one time.

i have to see who the Angels hired....

 

[Blaster]

i have to see who the Angels hired....

Angels hire Ron Washington as manager, team's fifth since 2018

Los Angeles hasn’t made postseason play since 2014.

theathletic.com

 

[22lcidw]

He took also-rans and turned them into contenders....Anything can, and usually does, happen in the playoffs.

Bobby Cox only one WS in Atlanta, and nobody doubted his managing chops.

He had a great team for many years. I know the best team does not win at times. He should have won more. Atlanta up till then did not have long runs of success. If he managed the Yankees he would have been canned even if he won four or five world series. Anyway, Atlanta is good for the long haul.