Changing ME Equation...

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    America self-sufficient in oil in five short years. The window for ME peace or war.

    U.S. to overtake Saudi as top oil producer: IEA - Yahoo! News

    LONDON (Reuters) - The United States will overtake Saudi Arabia and Russia as the world's top oil producer by 2017, the West's energy agency said on Monday, predicting Washington will come very close to achieving a previously unthinkable energy self-sufficiency.

    The forecasts by the International Energy Agency (IEA), which advises large industrialized nations on energy policy, were in sharp contrast to previous IEA reports, which saw Saudi Arabia remaining the top producer until 2035.

    "Energy developments in the United States are profound and their effect will be felt well beyond North America - and the energy sector," the IEA said in its annual long-term report, giving one of the most optimistic forecasts for U.S. energy production growth to date.
     
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    well good for the yanx

    tho there have been reports of contaminated drinking water and even taps catching on fire from this fracking shale gas and oil they have got

    israel also has discovered massive undersea gas which it has to share with gaza and lebanon
    and so have lots of other places in africa

    unconventional gas is hugely plentiful and greener than oil or coal

    but the answer to the world's energy problems and climate change has to be what is called 4th generation nuclear

    thorium molten salt reactors or bill gates travelling wave reactors have real promise; safer and can burn nuclear waste as well and be scaled down to smaller units

    only china not USA or the west is investing in this new technology which will run the world

    as for geo strategic stuff

    will that cure USA of its israel addiction;

    doubt it sir
     
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    Can't run cars on molten salt or traveling wave reactors. The gas created from a serving of retried beans on he other hand...
     
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    Meh. It ain't gonna change anything. The US and the West are still going to purchase the same amount of oil if not more, from said countries to meet itheir demands.
     
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    The scare tactics against fracking have been proven to be bullshit.

    Re: Israel - natural gas is escaping from the sea floor which could severly hamper their efforts.

    http://esciencenews.com/articles/20...t.are.discovered.university.haifa.researchers
     
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    Fracking for natural gas IS changing the energy equasion.

    But just because that gas was found in the USA does NOT mean that it won't be sold in the international market.

    It is NOT US owned product, folks.

    Although I would be 100% behind a law making it illegal to export it.

    Whose with me on this one?
     
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    We have plenty of people starving in our own country, yet pay sky-high grocery prices while exporting millions of metric tons of grains each year. Let's get behind a law making it illegal to export our food. Oh- and let's shit-can that fucked up ethanol program while we're at it. 40% of our corn crop is diverted to ethanol production. We make so much of the shit 20% of it is EXPORTED. Who's with me on this one?

    Let's by God hope we start exporting our natural gas. This country needs cash, GDP, employment, tax revenues, economic output.
     
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    Gotta have power for your hairdryers, you fucking ass pounder.
     
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    Mind your manners around here.

    That's MR fucking ass pounder.
     
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    the Uk govt have just given the frackers the go ahead

    despite 2 fracking earthquakes and huge cries of FRACK OFF from the eco freax

    but its small scale stuff here; not like in USA

    as for Israel. the toxic gas leaks not only from the sea
    but from every orifice of every klepto zionist
    even the waling wall is so toxic they have to wear masks and jewish burkas!

    same with the rabid arabs......global warming sand *******
     
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