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Obvious connection. You love the Old South and all it stood for, particularly slavery, while I oppose all that. Yep.how proud you must be of losing the war
I am thrilled that the North and the West defeated the southern losers like you worship, Yurt.
do ever tire of lying. let's see, i mock those who are proud of the south losing the war and then you claim i worship them.
how proud you must be of losing the war
I am thrilled that the North and the West defeated the southern losers like you worship, Yurt.
The war was about slavery regardless of how hard you try to spin it
No it was more about money. More specifically issues on taxes, tariffs, internal improvements and states rights vs federal rights of which slavery was a part of.
But go ahead and remain ignorant.
Here we go again folks...
The Civil War was about States Rights....A States Right to allow slavery
The Civil War was about economics......An economy built on slavery
State Sovereignty is immoral now?
Fucking history flunkies. Jeebus.
If the Civil War was fought, as you claim, over state's rights, why did the constitution of the CSA not support state's rights?
In fact, that constitution allowed no state the right to emancipate slaves. In fact, no state could even be admitted into the CSA unless it agreed to maintain slavery always.
And the idea of a state's right to secede was specifically and emphatically denied by that constitution.
Dude, you really need to read a history book.
Did you know that Gen. Ulysses Grant owned slaves even after the war? And he didn't free them until the 13th Amendment was passed.
Bottom line the war was fought over money.
The war was about slavery regardless of how hard you try to spin it
No it was more about money. More specifically issues on taxes, tariffs, internal improvements and states rights vs federal rights of which slavery was a part of.
But go ahead and remain ignorant.
Here we go again folks...
The Civil War was about States Rights....A States Right to allow slavery
The Civil War was about economics......An economy built on slavery
Explain why theis so offensive to blacks if it doesn't represent the Confederacy and southern pride?
But the fact is, this flag is NOT the "Confederate Flag." It is the "Battle Flag of Northern Virginia." This design, however, is the one most synonymous with the term, and the one used in various forms on many of the other flags that were flown by the Confederate States. It is also the one most hated by those who are completely and totally ignorant of what it stands for.
This is the TRUE Confederate flag"
The only thing that flag is worthy of is toilet paper.
No that wouldn't work. This flag doesn't take shit off anyone.
I don't think so. But if you have proof that the Virginia Battle flag was flying in Petersburg or in any of Sherman's sieges then let's see it.
My apologies, I thought you were referring to the Confederate flag.
The Battle flag is so often referred to as the Confederate flag and I think it's due to ignorance or being too lazy to research the flag's origin.
If the Civil War was fought, as you claim, over state's rights, why did the constitution of the CSA not support state's rights?
In fact, that constitution allowed no state the right to emancipate slaves. In fact, no state could even be admitted into the CSA unless it agreed to maintain slavery always.
And the idea of a state's right to secede was specifically and emphatically denied by that constitution.
Dude, you really need to read a history book.
Did you know that Gen. Ulysses Grant owned slaves even after the war? And he didn't free them until the 13th Amendment was passed.
Dude, that's a classic non sequitur. Stay on point.
Bottom line the war was fought over money.
Money or property? Both equate to slavery. Times change but character does not, today in the South a popular ruse is to call neo slavery the Right to Work.
If the Civil War was fought, as you claim, over state's rights, why did the constitution of the CSA not support state's rights?
In fact, that constitution allowed no state the right to emancipate slaves. In fact, no state could even be admitted into the CSA unless it agreed to maintain slavery always.
And the idea of a state's right to secede was specifically and emphatically denied by that constitution.
Dude, you really need to read a history book.
Did you know that Gen. Ulysses Grant owned slaves even after the war? And he didn't free them until the 13th Amendment was passed.
Bottom line the war was fought over money.
You moron. His wife's family (the Dents) owned them.
Dude, you really need to read a history book.
Did you know that Gen. Ulysses Grant owned slaves even after the war? And he didn't free them until the 13th Amendment was passed.
Bottom line the war was fought over money.
You moron. His wife's family (the Dents) owned them.
The last president who ever owned slaves was, ironically, Ulysses S. Grant, elected in 1868 after he had commanded Union forces to victory over the Confederacy in the war that led to the abolition of slavery. Grant owned a slave named William Jones, whom he freed in 1859. Between 1854 and 1859 Grant worked and lived on an 850-acre farm in Missouri, near St. Louis, that was owned by his father-in-law. Grants wife, Julia, also owned slaves, and during Grants management of the farm he worked along with one of them, a man named Dan. The farm is now the Ulysses S. Grant National Historic Site, part of the National Park Service.
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Obvious connection. You love the Old South and all it stood for, particularly slavery, while I oppose all that. Yep.I am thrilled that the North and the West defeated the southern losers like you worship, Yurt.
do ever tire of lying. let's see, i mock those who are proud of the south losing the war and then you claim i worship them.
Obvious connection. You love the Old South and all it stood for, particularly slavery, while I oppose all that. Yep.do ever tire of lying. let's see, i mock those who are proud of the south losing the war and then you claim i worship them.
cite the obvious connection. be specific.
and when i have ever said i love slavery? or what have i said that leads you to believe this?
State Sovereignty is immoral now?
Fucking history flunkies. Jeebus.
If the Civil War was fought, as you claim, over state's rights, why did the constitution of the CSA not support state's rights?
In fact, that constitution allowed no state the right to emancipate slaves. In fact, no state could even be admitted into the CSA unless it agreed to maintain slavery always.
And the idea of a state's right to secede was specifically and emphatically denied by that constitution.
3) The Confederate States may acquire new territory; and Congress shall have power to legislate and provide governments for the inhabitants of all territory belonging to the Confederate States, lying without the limits of the several Sates; and may permit them, at such times, and in such manner as it may by law provide, to form States to be admitted into the Confederacy. In all such territory the institution of negro slavery, as it now exists in the Confederate States, shall be recognized and protected be Congress and by the Territorial government; and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and Territories shall have the right to take to such Territory any slaves lawfully held by them in any of the States or Territories of the Confederate States.
Sec. 3. (I) Other States may be admitted into this Confederacy by a vote of two-thirds of the whole House of Representatives and two-thirds of the Senate, the Senate voting by States; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other State, nor any State be formed by the junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned, as well as of the Congress.
Obvious connection. You love the Old South and all it stood for, particularly slavery, while I oppose all that. Yep.
cite the obvious connection. be specific.
and when i have ever said i love slavery? or what have i said that leads you to believe this?
Your obvious love for it is your attack on me ABOVE for supporting the North and West's victory over the South.
"We, the people of the Confederate States, each state acting in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity — invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God — do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America."
As for secession, it's right in the preamble of the C.C.
"We, the people of the Confederate States, each state acting in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America."
cite the obvious connection. be specific.
and when i have ever said i love slavery? or what have i said that leads you to believe this?
Your obvious love for it is your attack on me ABOVE for supporting the North and West's victory over the South.
not true, i attacked your LIE that i support the south slavery. hence, i do not support slavery.
yet again, jake makes a claim and provides zero evidence to back it up and lies about what the person actually said.
Yes, recognized and protected. That has little bearing on whether or not others own slaves. You seem to fall for the typical fallacy that sicne the C.C protected the institution (as it was viewed as private property of the time), that means that every confederacy state MUST own slaves. The slave trade was already dying. Right along with slavery the world over. It would have ended on its own, as many confederates believed. The difference is, the confederacy didnt want congress deciding for everyone that it ends by force. (a fuckin' oxymoron if one ever existed).
