Can you give one reason why you would NOT vote for a Libertarian?

Ya, NO diplomacy at all. Open trade with everyone and no involvement of ANY kind other then that required to trade. That is a form of isolationism and it does NOT work.

This is the falsehood. We have no problem helping nations in any way that doesn't require us to intervene militarily or financially.
I remember the '04 tsunami, and how private donations from Americans blew away what the feds tossed into the kitty.

And how are those private donations working for events that aren't loud, publicized, and made for TV events?
 
I notice Canada doesn't have kooky A-rabs trying to blow up their buildings or flying airliners into them.

Then they aren't doing something right ... sorry, but if you have no enemies then you aren't pro-active.

Yeah, they are avoiding being pro-actively stupid. Thats a good trait, actually.

Canada has enemies, Try Arab Terrorists and the Taliban for 2. The Terrorists though have no need to blow up shit in Canada cause on a global scale Canada is powerless.
 
They call for no involvement in any other Country AT ALL. No help, no diplomacy, nothing. That is Isolationism.

THAT'S CALLED PATRIOTISM. Your can throw around your hateful slurs, but the truth is that what you slur as "isolationism" is the ONLY moral and ethical path for the United States to have. I don't even support Libertarians, but the America First ones are right on this issue!

George Washington was right, AMERICA FIRST!!!!!
 
And I advocate the free market.

The free market can't exist in a capitalist economy. The realities of market and wealth concentration create forms of market power (namely, monopoly and oligopoly) that are anything but free. Ultimately, that's why capitalism has such an anti-libertarian element; it involves the creation of thoroughly authoritarian institutions.

A true free market is a true capitalist economy - that is - no involvement by the state on economic affairs (except to enforce voluntary made contracts) . No "special interest," - government is not smart or capable enough to possibly make economic decisions on behalf of the people. The power has to be within each individual to act freely and voluntarily, and using his own mind, his own rational thought. That is what makes it free. That is what makes it prosperous. The power to choose has to be left to the individual - who else can know the mind or self-interest of another? It is just not possible. If we want a society to be most wealthy, most creative, and most happy we need to have a respect for private property and the ways of capitalism.
 
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They call for no involvement in any other Country AT ALL. No help, no diplomacy, nothing. That is Isolationism.

THAT'S CALLED PATRIOTISM. Your can throw around your hateful slurs, but the truth is that what you slur as "isolationism" is the ONLY moral and ethical path for the United States to have. I don't even support Libertarians, but the America First ones are right on this issue!

George Washington was right, AMERICA FIRST!!!!!

Does not work and we have lots of wars to prove it.
 
Yeah, they are avoiding being pro-actively stupid. Thats a good trait, actually.

Maybe you should move there.

Or maybe you can move to North Korea. They have lots of enemies, so they surely must be doing something right, eh?

Um ... no, it's the other side of the same coin, they are doing too much because they have too many enemies. It's simple really, if half the world loves you and the other half hates you, then you have allies who will back you when you need it. If everyone hates you then you do not have enough allies to back you when you need it, if everyone loves you then allies won't make a difference because you won't know when or where it finally comes from. Some countries will just attack for no reason (such as N Korea ... thus why most everyone hates them) and thus with no allies you are an easy target. Canada's only saving grace is us, without the US so close to them there would be no reason for anyone to run to their aid when they need it.
 
They call for no involvement in any other Country AT ALL. No help, no diplomacy, nothing. That is Isolationism.

THAT'S CALLED PATRIOTISM. Your can throw around your hateful slurs, but the truth is that what you slur as "isolationism" is the ONLY moral and ethical path for the United States to have. I don't even support Libertarians, but the America First ones are right on this issue!

George Washington was right, AMERICA FIRST!!!!!

Does not work and we have lots of wars to prove it.

We have wars that prove interventionism doesn't work.
 
They call for no involvement in any other Country AT ALL. No help, no diplomacy, nothing. That is Isolationism.

THAT'S CALLED PATRIOTISM. Your can throw around your hateful slurs, but the truth is that what you slur as "isolationism" is the ONLY moral and ethical path for the United States to have. I don't even support Libertarians, but the America First ones are right on this issue!

George Washington was right, AMERICA FIRST!!!!!

Does not work and we have lots of wars to prove it.

do you think we could have stopped Hitler's Blitzkrieg in 1939-40?
 
This is the falsehood. We have no problem helping nations in any way that doesn't require us to intervene militarily or financially.

What, then, is left?

Then they aren't doing something right ... sorry, but if you have no enemies then you aren't pro-active.

Now you're just being silly

Thank you, Woodrow Wilson.
Fuck Wilson.

A true free market is a true capitalist economy - that is - no involvement by the state on economic affairs (except to enforce voluntary made contracts) .

An economy devoid of regulations is ripe with abuse
 
Does not work and we have lots of wars to prove it.
Like which wars??

WWI where Wilson did his damndest to provoke the Central Powers, who didn't bite, and Wilson intervened anyways??

WWII, where FDR deliberately provoked the Japanese??

Korea, where Truman intervened by executive fiat??

'Nam, where LBJ lied about the Golf of Tonkin incident??
 
And how are those private donations working for events that aren't loud, publicized, and made for TV events?
More often than not, way more than gubmint bureaucrats -who sponge off for themselves at least 2/3 of the monies expropriated for the sainted poooooor- end up contributing.

Really? Can I see the figures for this?
 
Maybe you should move there.

Or maybe you can move to North Korea. They have lots of enemies, so they surely must be doing something right, eh?

Um ... no, it's the other side of the same coin, they are doing too much because they have too many enemies. It's simple really, if half the world loves you and the other half hates you, then you have allies who will back you when you need it. If everyone hates you then you do not have enough allies to back you when you need it, if everyone loves you then allies won't make a difference because you won't know when or where it finally comes from. Some countries will just attack for no reason (such as N Korea ... thus why most everyone hates them) and thus with no allies you are an easy target. Canada's only saving grace is us, without the US so close to them there would be no reason for anyone to run to their aid when they need it.

if everyone loves you then allies won't make a difference because you won't know when or where it finally comes from.

Wtf? When or where what finally comes from?

Canada would be doing fine without us. Australia is in the middle of nowhere, and they are also doing fine. Countries actually exist outside of the sphere of the United States you know.
 

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