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You've already demonstrated that there's no evidence that you would accept, so what would be the point?
If the government is violating the constitution show all the cases where laws are being struck down. They are few and far between.
Another false premise that assumes that those in power are incorruptible. Fail.
If the government is violating the constitution show all the cases where laws are being struck down. They are few and far between.
Another false premise that assumes that those in power are incorruptible. Fail.
The constitution you claim to love instituted a systems of checks and balances. Each branch ensures the others do not assume too much power.
Show where today's government is conducting more constitutional violations
Another false premise that assumes that those in power are incorruptible. Fail.
The constitution you claim to love instituted a systems of checks and balances. Each branch ensures the others do not assume too much power.
Show where today's government is conducting more constitutional violations
Seriously? I know you are going to appeal to emotion as a retort, but try to just find any of them as a power in the constitution. really...so...sigh...how about you tell me where any of these agencies are mentioned as legitimate agencies or "powers" of the federal government:
Personal Income Tax Division of the IRS
National Endowment for the Arts (Can't sell your art privately?)
National Wild Horse and Burro Program (Huh?)
Dept. of Education
Dept of Energy
FEMA (a corrupt organization if there ever was one--leave it to charities)
FDIC (a sham program with only a fraction of funds needed to save banks)
Freddy Mac & Fannie Mae (helped cause present economic conditions)
Administration on Aging (AoA)
Administration for Children and Families (ACF)
Administration on Developmental Disabilities (ADD)
Administration for Native Americans (ANA)
Children's Bureau (CB)
Family and Youth Services Bureau (FYSB)
Head Start Bureau (HSB)
Healthy Marriage Initiative (HMI)
Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP)
Office of Child Support Enforcement (OCSE)
Office of Community Services Block Grant (OCS)
Office of Family Assistance (OFA)
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)
Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR)
President's Committee for People with Intellectual Disabilities (PCPID)
Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ)
Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR)
Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS)
Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA)
Indian Health Service (IHS)
National Institutes of Health (NIH)
Office for Civil Rights (OCR)
Office of Minority Health (OMH)
Program Support Center (PSC)
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Admin.(SAMHSA)
Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology (ONCHIT)
Center for Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (CFBCI)
Employees' Compensation Appeals Board (ECAB)
Employment Standards Administration (ESA)
The Office of Labor-Management Standards (OLMS)
Office of Workers' Compensation Programs (OWCP)
Wage and Hour Division (WHD)
Employment and Training Administration (ETA)
Employee Benefits Security Administration (EBSA)
Women's Bureau (WB)
Job Corps
Bureau of East Asian and Pacific Affairs
Bureau of Economic and Business Affairs
Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs
Internet Access and Training Program
Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs
Bureau of Human Resources
Bureau of Information Resource Management
Bureau of Intelligence and Research
Bureau for International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs
Bureau of International Organization Affairs
Bureau of International Security and Nonproliferation
Bureau of Legislative Affairs
Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs
Bureau of Oceans and International Environmental and Scientific Affairs
Bureau of Overseas Buildings Operations
Bureau of Political-Military Affairs
Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration
Bureau of Public Affairs
Bureau of Resource Management
Bureau of South Asian Affairs
Bureau of Verification, Compliance, and Implementation
Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs
Counterterrorism Office (which produces the Patterns of Global Terrorism report)
National Foreign Affairs Training Center (former Foreign Service Institute)
Office of International Information Programs
Office of the Legal Adviser
Office of Management Policy
Office of Protocol
Office of the Science and Technology Adviser
Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons
Office of War Crimes Issues (They blew the Bush war crimes)
Car Allowance Rebate System (Cash for Clunkers)
Cash for Appliances Program
Bureau of the Public Debt
Community Development Financial Institution Fund (CDFI)
FHA
HUD
INDEPENDENT AGENCIES Of the U.S. GOVERNMENT;
National health and insurance system
African Development Foundation
Advisory Council on Historic Preservation (ACHP)
Agency for International Development (USAID)
American Battle Monuments Commission (ABMC)
Appalachian Regional Commission (ARC)
U.S. Arctic Research Commission (USARC)
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) (EVIL WAR-MONGERS)
US Commission on Civil Rights (USCCR)
Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (CSCE)
Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS)
Court Services and Offender Supervision Agency (CSOSA)
Delaware River Basin Commission (DRBC)
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC)
Export-Import Bank of the United States (ExIm)
Farm Credit Administration (FCA)
Federal Communications Commission (FCC)
Federal Election Commission (FEC)
Federal Maritime Commission
Federal Mine Safety & Health Review Commission (FMSHRC)
Federal Reserve System (a pseudo government, semi-private organization)
Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board
Federal Trade Commission (FTC)
Foreign Claims Settlement Commission of the United States (FCSC)
General Services Administration (GSA)
Institute of Museum and Library Services (IMLS)
Inter-American Foundation (IAF)
International Trade Commission (ITC)
Learn and Serve America (LSA)
National Capital Planning Commission (NCPC)
National Credit Union Administration (NCUA)
National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH)
National Ice Center (NIC)
National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)
National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) (NRPC)
National Science Foundation (NSF)
National Transportation Research Center (NTRC)
Office of Government Ethics (OGE)(LOT OF GOOD THEY DO)
Office of Personnel Management (OPM)
Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC)
Selective Service System (SSS)
Senior Corps
Small Business Administration (SBA)
Susquehanna River Basin Commission (SRBC)
Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA)
United States Trade and Development Agency (TDA)
BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS;
Financial crisis inquiry commission
Administrative Committee of the Federal Register
American Battle Monuments Commission
Appalachian Regional Commission
Architectural and Transportation Barriers Compliance Board (Access Board)
Arctic Research Commission
Arthritis and Musculoskeletal Interagency Coordinating Committee
Barry M. Goldwater Scholarship and Excellence in Education Foundation
Broadcasting Board of Governors
Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board
Chief Acquisition Officers Council
Chief Financial Officers Council
Chief Human Capital Officers Council
Chief Information Officers Council
Citizens' Stamp Advisory Committee
Commission of Fine Arts
Commission on International Religious Freedom
Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (Helsinki Commission)
Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States
Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the UniteJd States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction
Committee for Purchase from People Who Are Blind or Severely Disabled
Committee for the Implementation of Textile Agreements
Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States
Coordinating Council on Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention
Delaware River Basin Commission
Denali Commission
Endangered Species Committee
Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board
Federal Advisory Committees
Federal Executive Boards
Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council
Federal Financing Bank
Federal Geographic Data Committee
Federal Interagency Committee for the Management of Noxious and Exotic Weeds (GOTTA LOVE THAT ONE!)
Federal Interagency Committee on Education
Federal Interagency Council on Statistical Policy
Federal Laboratory Consortium for Technology Transfer
Federal Library and Information Center Committee
Harry S. Truman Scholarship Foundation
Illinois and Michigan Canal National Heritage Corridor Commission
Indian Arts and Crafts Board
Interagency Alternative Dispute Resolution Working Group
Interagency Council on Homelessness
Interstate Commission on the Potomac River Basin
J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board
James Madison Memorial Fellowship Foundation
Japan-United States Friendship Commission
Joint Board for the Enrollment of Actuaries
Joint Fire Science Program
Marine Mammal Commission
Migratory Bird Conservation Commission
Millennium Challenge Corporation
Mississippi River Commission
Morris K. Udall Foundation: Scholarship and Excellence in National Environmental Policy
National Bipartisan Commission on the Future of Medicare
National Indian Gaming Commission
National Park Foundation
Northwest Power Planning Council
Nuclear Regulatory Commission
Nuclear Waste Technical Review Board
Presidio Trust
Regulatory Information Service Center
Social Security System
Social Security Advisory Board
Susquehanna River Basin Commission
Taxpayer Advocacy Panel
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Veterans Day National Committee
Vietnam Educational Foundation
White House Commission on Presidential Scholars – "Presidential Scholars Program"
White House Commission on the National Moment of Remembrance
Um...James Madison and even Hamilton made it quite clear in the federalist papers that if you want to add something to the Constitution you go through the included amendment process...not just DO it. What logic can you offer that proves that the larger a population the larger the federal government must be (in terms of power)? I don't see that logic.
Um...James Madison and even Hamilton made it quite clear in the federalist papers that if you want to add something to the Constitution you go through the included amendment process...not just DO it. What logic can you offer that proves that the larger a population the larger the federal government must be (in terms of power)? I don't see that logic.
Not true by a long shot. It was never intended that an amendment was needed to execute the myriad of decisions required to run a government. If so, the Constitution would be tens of thousands of pages long
Um...James Madison and even Hamilton made it quite clear in the federalist papers that if you want to add something to the Constitution you go through the included amendment process...not just DO it. What logic can you offer that proves that the larger a population the larger the federal government must be (in terms of power)? I don't see that logic.
Not true by a long shot. It was never intended that an amendment was needed to execute the myriad of decisions required to run a government. If so, the Constitution would be tens of thousands of pages long
Kind of like obamacare? zing. Seriously though...read the federalist papers and show me where they explain a certain portion of the Constitution meant the federal government could just go ape shit and create agencies out of the blue.
So your argument is basically, "they can do what they fucking want." Great. What an amazing critical thinker you are.
Why can't the federal government just stick to the constitution? Since when has this become a bad thing? I don't understand...republicans complain, democrats complain, our whole system is just whiners with no real solution...when the solution is right in front of us. That's right. I am talking about the damn United States Constitution. All the rules are in place...but we don't follow them. The federal government grows and grows and grows, seizes power that by design the 10th amendment is supposed to protect, etc. etc. Maybe the reason why the country is declining economically, morally, etc. is because we strayed from our foundation...the foundation of liberty secured primarily by local government.
God help us.
Um...James Madison and even Hamilton made it quite clear in the federalist papers that if you want to add something to the Constitution you go through the included amendment process...not just DO it. What logic can you offer that proves that the larger a population the larger the federal government must be (in terms of power)? I don't see that logic.
Not true by a long shot. It was never intended that an amendment was needed to execute the myriad of decisions required to run a government.
Um...James Madison and even Hamilton made it quite clear in the federalist papers that if you want to add something to the Constitution you go through the included amendment process...not just DO it. What logic can you offer that proves that the larger a population the larger the federal government must be (in terms of power)? I don't see that logic.
Not true by a long shot. It was never intended that an amendment was needed to execute the myriad of decisions required to run a government.
Actually, yeah it was, because the states were set up to have the vast majority of governing power. Very few duties were granted to the central government.
You're also exhibiting your naivete in concluding that everything the federal government does is Constitutional simply because it hasn't been struck down by SCOTUS. That is a flawed premise because many things are never challenged and in many cases where they have been challenged the SCOTUS and other appellate courts have been just as complicite in unconstitutionally expanding the powers of the federal government as the politicians have. Kelo v New London was a good example of that, as previously brought up.
Furthermore, that you think it is a "childish view" that "18th century politicians of a nation of 3 million should decide what was needed to run a superpower of 300 million people" is intellectually flawed at best. The alternative is that we just invent new interpretations of the Constitution (which is exactly what has happened) and if the Constitution suddenly means whatever a few people decide it does on any given day then we may as well throw the whole thing in the trash because it means nothing.
Federalist papers have no legal bearing. What decides what the Constitution entails is 200 plus years of legal case law.
Not true by a long shot. It was never intended that an amendment was needed to execute the myriad of decisions required to run a government. If so, the Constitution would be tens of thousands of pages long
Kind of like obamacare? zing. Seriously though...read the federalist papers and show me where they explain a certain portion of the Constitution meant the federal government could just go ape shit and create agencies out of the blue.
Federalist papers have no legal bearing. What decides what the Constitution entails is 200 plus years of legal case law. What our great Constitution allows you to do is challenge any laws you disagree with in the courts. If you think an agency is against the law......challenge it
Which is why no one is doing so. Instead, they are asking why we refuse to follow the constitution. That does not mean we abandon 200 years of social progress, it means that our government should follow the damn document it was established with to include the amendments to date btw.Our society today provides more freedom to its people than that of the founding fathers
You shot yourself in the foot by super-imposing the word "society" onto what should have said "federal government." Which is philosophically and logically incorrect. Words cannot describe your ignorance and your disrespect. How I pity you.
You want to talk federal government?
How about the federal government of our founding fathers insisted on keeping men in slavery? How about the federal government not allowing women to vote or own property? How about the freedom the federal government provided native Americans?
Comparing the freedom provided by our founding fathers to the freedom we have today is a joke
Federalist papers have no legal bearing. What decides what the Constitution entails is 200 plus years of legal case law.
Again, absolutely false. 200 years of legal case law isn't what wrote the Constitution (although that's certainly how it's being practiced). It means what it means and the Federalist Papers were written to tell us exactly what it means. It's people like you over the years, with judicial and political power, who have decided to ignore these things because your agenda would have been impossible to implement were you forced to follow them.
Um...James Madison and even Hamilton made it quite clear in the federalist papers that if you want to add something to the Constitution you go through the included amendment process...not just DO it. What logic can you offer that proves that the larger a population the larger the federal government must be (in terms of power)? I don't see that logic.
Not true by a long shot. It was never intended that an amendment was needed to execute the myriad of decisions required to run a government.
Actually, yeah it was, because the states were set up to have the vast majority of governing power. Very few duties were granted to the central government.
You're also exhibiting your naivete in concluding that everything the federal government does is Constitutional simply because it hasn't been struck down by SCOTUS. That is a flawed premise because many things are never challenged and in many cases where they have been challenged the SCOTUS and other appellate courts have been just as complicite in unconstitutionally expanding the powers of the federal government as the politicians have. Kelo v New London was a good example of that, as previously brought up.
Furthermore, that you think it is a "childish view" that "18th century politicians of a nation of 3 million should decide what was needed to run a superpower of 300 million people" is intellectually flawed at best. The alternative is that we just invent new interpretations of the Constitution (which is exactly what has happened) and if the Constitution suddenly means whatever a few people decide it does on any given day then we may as well throw the whole thing in the trash because it means nothing.
So do the enemies of America. They too, admit that the Constitution is a worthless piece of paper and actively work to change our form of government.That ladies and gentlemen, is what is meant by enemies, foreign and domestic.Oh, look everyone, another constitutional fetishist.
I say we set up a special colony for these people. They can live just under the limits of the constitution, but they can't have any technology invented after 1790. If they get sick, no modern medicine for you. We'll just bleed you like they did Geo. Washington. That'll work out well.
The US Constitution is actually pretty awful. A Bi-Cameral legislature, the idiocy of giving Wymonig as many Senators as California, the stupidity of the Electoral College.
We are declining because we've let huge wealth disparity happen. Because we import more manufactured goods than we export, and we export more raw materials. We are becoming a third world country because we are acting like one. And that has nothing to do with the constitution.
It is a viable, and somewhat nauseating look, inside the mind of a subversive.
Settle down spanky. He's not an enemy, he just has a different view than you.
Not true by a long shot. It was never intended that an amendment was needed to execute the myriad of decisions required to run a government.
Actually, yeah it was, because the states were set up to have the vast majority of governing power. Very few duties were granted to the central government.
You're also exhibiting your naivete in concluding that everything the federal government does is Constitutional simply because it hasn't been struck down by SCOTUS. That is a flawed premise because many things are never challenged and in many cases where they have been challenged the SCOTUS and other appellate courts have been just as complicite in unconstitutionally expanding the powers of the federal government as the politicians have. Kelo v New London was a good example of that, as previously brought up.
Furthermore, that you think it is a "childish view" that "18th century politicians of a nation of 3 million should decide what was needed to run a superpower of 300 million people" is intellectually flawed at best. The alternative is that we just invent new interpretations of the Constitution (which is exactly what has happened) and if the Constitution suddenly means whatever a few people decide it does on any given day then we may as well throw the whole thing in the trash because it means nothing.
I'm afraid that is how things do work. A law is Constitutional until proven otherwise.
The courts are established to determine what is and what is not constitutional. That is the process that has worked for the last 235 years
You may not like it, but that's the way it is
Which is why no one is doing so. Instead, they are asking why we refuse to follow the constitution. That does not mean we abandon 200 years of social progress, it means that our government should follow the damn document it was established with to include the amendments to date btw.You shot yourself in the foot by super-imposing the word "society" onto what should have said "federal government." Which is philosophically and logically incorrect. Words cannot describe your ignorance and your disrespect. How I pity you.
You want to talk federal government?
How about the federal government of our founding fathers insisted on keeping men in slavery? How about the federal government not allowing women to vote or own property? How about the freedom the federal government provided native Americans?
Comparing the freedom provided by our founding fathers to the freedom we have today is a joke
