Can someone explain to me these bibical passages??

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  1. Jennifer.Bush
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    ok so i was having this disussion w/ this person and he was trying to say that in the holy bible it approves the killing of gays by man is this tell???


    Kill Homosexuals
    "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAb


    Kill Nonbelievers

    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)


    Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night

    But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

    are these the word of god or men???
     
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    With the exception of the Proverbs verse, these are all passages from the Old Testament Law. These requirements of the Law are no longer valid, because of the new covenant of grace which was ushered in by Christ's death and resurrection. So for someone to argue that Christians are required to kill gays, non-believers, etc. is wrong. However, while the punishment for such things has changed, the principles have not. In other words, homosexuality, false prophecy, fortune telling, disobedience to parents, adultery, fornication, etc. are still immoral actions.
     
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    You're really nuts if you think somebody is going to go through every one of those scriptures and FORCE you to apply rules of 'context' to each part.

    Do some research yourself. Geeesh.
     
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    It's old Hebrew law. As Jeff said---Christ changed things.
     
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    ok so those laws were not created by god right?
     
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    IMHO ? No
     
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    I think it went something like this:

    Moses was in constant communication with God on behalf of Israel. God had given them the Ten Commandments, but you know how people are... if you draw a line, they want to know exactly how close they can get to it before they cross it. So God said "Do not murder," and people said, "What do you mean by murder? What about self-defense, what about THIS circumstance....?" And God would answer, until a huge list of picky laws was created.

    God never desired the people to focus on following laws and rules; He desired them to obey Him out of love. The truth is that EVERY sin deserves death. God was actually cutting people some slack in this.
     
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    Those aren't even LAWS...those are PARTS (without ANY context given) of instructions by God to SPECIFIC people at a specific instant. Those out-of-context words are NOT general do-alls and be-alls.
     
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    Incorrect. Those laws were given by God. As I said, the punishments for those behaviors has changed (i.e. Christians are not to kill people for those listed behaviors), but the ethcial standards of the law have not changed.
     

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